nawt some of the people here thinking YJ and SH were justified in their little revenge plan y'all need to enroll…
"... y'all need to enroll in an ethics class"
The same philosophy and ethics courses that give weight to moral subjectivism, relativism and nihilism in which morality and law are objectively meaningless social constructs relative to culture and individual that people came up with for their benefit and convenience?
In which "Yoonjae was immoral" and "Yoonjae was moral" are either equally valid or equally erroneous opinions?
Or just the philosophy and ethics courses you agree with?
"Killing is killing. No rhyme or reason can every justify it"Self-defense laws say otherwise The law claims that…
If justice is rational, so is revenge. They are the same
Justice punishes a person who commits an immoral or illegal action
Revenge punishes a person who commits an immoral or illegal action
The law takes it upon itself to get revenge on behalf of cowards who can't bring themselves to and stuffs your mouths with pretty lies
"This is totally not revenge! We are not violent!"
Yes, yes, you are "violent"
Punishment is supposed to be "violent," to damage or hurt a person who damaged or hurt you
If it weren't "violent," it would be a reward. Not a punishment
People aren't robots. They would rationally and emotionally want to avenge their injuries
The only difference is the method of punishment
Yoonjae preferred to do unto others as they did unto him by taking their families, while you prefer to do unto others as they did unto you by imprisoning them
His emotions and preferences justify his actions
By dismissing emotions, you dismiss rationality
A robot wouldn't be able to value the truth
It's because you're an emotional subject with opinions and preferences that you can subjectively value the truth or rationality
Without emotions, rationality would have no objective or subjective value whatsoever
I beg to differ. He avaided law and came back shamelessly, he raped someone and came back to same shook unhingered.What…
People having a problem with the way Lomon's character punished a sexual assaulter is why I can't take the people who had a problem with the way Yoonjae punished Moonkang, Kinam, etc seriously
He lost his family. They had to lose their families too
People would have no sympathy for Yoonjae even if he punished Moonkang, Kinam, etc differently
Revenge is a principle of reciprocal justice, measure for measureIf someone takes your property, you would be…
Revenge isn't immoral
You want the people who "kill" your family arrested and punished by the state. That's revenge
"We are carnivorous"
We are omnivorous, flexible eaters feeding on a variety of food of both plant and meat origin
"Killing" other people would be as natural as "killing" other animals
Humans are animals. Your existence as a human has no innate value. It's you who subjectively values it. There is no objective reason not to "kill" and eat you
What if Yoonjae cooked and consumed the flesh of the daughters? That would be okay, because meat can beef up our nutrition?
okay, here's my take on the drama: I like it. I came into this already knowing who the perpetrators are because…
"Killing is killing. No rhyme or reason can every justify it"
Self-defense laws say otherwise
The law claims that you are allowed to subjectively value your "life" more than the "life" of another person, that you are allowed to "kill" another person on the ground that "killing" them would avoid being "killed"
If there can be exceptions to rules, if circumstances can affect morality, there is no objective reason why revenge can not be a bonus exception
A person "killed" your family? You should be allowed to "kill" their family to get even
They took Yoonjae's sister from him
Yoonjae took their daughters from them
He believed what he did was justified, just as you believe what the police did was justified
The (staged?) scandal gave them more fame than the upcoming BL did Even if Omega X members were "forced" to play…
There's nothing wrong with my statement
Being "forced" into something isn't just "normalized." It's how society works
We are "forced" into things to survive, with every job being an unequal bargaining power between working class and government, bound by pressures of hierarchical social environments and threats of poverty
And that's the tip of the iceberg
Why won't YOU save your breath? This isn't a special case
Idols and actors are "forced" to play "straight" roles for fame and validation all the time. It's okay to "force" them to play BL roles
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Law subjectively values things that Yoonjae didn't
Getting rid of the daughters, you believe, was immoral because they were not directly associated with Hope Welfare Centre
Yoonjae didn't believe what he did was immoral
Had the people associated with Hope Welfare Centre not taken his sister from him, he wouldn't have taken their daughters from them
Why do you get to "impose" your belief on him if you believe he shouldn't have "imposed" his belief on the daughters?
I suggested that you worry about yourself and your inappropriate profile picture first
The tragic love story culminated in suicide because Charles couldn't *be* without his loved one (Yoonjae)
They were lovers
The same philosophy and ethics courses that give weight to moral subjectivism, relativism and nihilism in which morality and law are objectively meaningless social constructs relative to culture and individual that people came up with for their benefit and convenience?
In which "Yoonjae was immoral" and "Yoonjae was moral" are either equally valid or equally erroneous opinions?
Or just the philosophy and ethics courses you agree with?
All judgements are subjective ...
Justice punishes a person who commits an immoral or illegal action
Revenge punishes a person who commits an immoral or illegal action
The law takes it upon itself to get revenge on behalf of cowards who can't bring themselves to and stuffs your mouths with pretty lies
"This is totally not revenge! We are not violent!"
Yes, yes, you are "violent"
Punishment is supposed to be "violent," to damage or hurt a person who damaged or hurt you
If it weren't "violent," it would be a reward. Not a punishment
People aren't robots. They would rationally and emotionally want to avenge their injuries
The only difference is the method of punishment
Yoonjae preferred to do unto others as they did unto him by taking their families, while you prefer to do unto others as they did unto you by imprisoning them
His emotions and preferences justify his actions
By dismissing emotions, you dismiss rationality
A robot wouldn't be able to value the truth
It's because you're an emotional subject with opinions and preferences that you can subjectively value the truth or rationality
Without emotions, rationality would have no objective or subjective value whatsoever
I ship the girls too, if that's the case!
I know the white-haired bish, but who are the athlete shooter and idol trainee? I'm confused by the first two episodes
"The ones that could potentially make them bond even more"
I wouldn't want dumb (Chanmi) and dumber (Sooheon) to "bond" more 😂
He lost his family. They had to lose their families too
People would have no sympathy for Yoonjae even if he punished Moonkang, Kinam, etc differently
He was the only person who called the police as soon as he found Wonseok's paralyzed body and revisited the empty classroom
You want the people who "kill" your family arrested and punished by the state. That's revenge
"We are carnivorous"
We are omnivorous, flexible eaters feeding on a variety of food of both plant and meat origin
"Killing" other people would be as natural as "killing" other animals
Humans are animals. Your existence as a human has no innate value. It's you who subjectively values it. There is no objective reason not to "kill" and eat you
What if Yoonjae cooked and consumed the flesh of the daughters? That would be okay, because meat can beef up our nutrition?
None of you are better than Yoonjae. You're worse
I'm the kind of person that would rather wait 6 months for it to end than undergo surgery
My wish to sleep and never wake up would come true lol
Self-defense laws say otherwise
The law claims that you are allowed to subjectively value your "life" more than the "life" of another person, that you are allowed to "kill" another person on the ground that "killing" them would avoid being "killed"
If there can be exceptions to rules, if circumstances can affect morality, there is no objective reason why revenge can not be a bonus exception
A person "killed" your family? You should be allowed to "kill" their family to get even
They took Yoonjae's sister from him
Yoonjae took their daughters from them
He believed what he did was justified, just as you believe what the police did was justified
He had a different moral system from yours
Being "forced" into something isn't just "normalized." It's how society works
We are "forced" into things to survive, with every job being an unequal bargaining power between working class and government, bound by pressures of hierarchical social environments and threats of poverty
And that's the tip of the iceberg
Why won't YOU save your breath? This isn't a special case
Idols and actors are "forced" to play "straight" roles for fame and validation all the time. It's okay to "force" them to play BL roles
Either dispose of society or deal with it
What does it say? That they were a couple