Yeah, but the only thing the ghost does is kill people. So it's not random acts of "kindness". I mean, maybe you…
A "ghost" takes possession of a human mind to gratify the desires of that mind. The desires of the mind are not against the "spirit," and the desires of the "spirit" are not against the mind. They are not opposed to each other. A person who wishes ill on their family for no reason would be partly responsible for the physical manifestation of their evil desires, for it's the nature of the mind that is evil. What is good in it is artificial
One may claim that desires are not immoral, that they do not affect others or that they are predetermined. Why wouldn't actions be predetermined? A condition for an action to count as immoral is that an agent can do otherwise. Are "ghosts" moral agents? Do they have free will? The "ghost" of this story has been an "evil spirit" for hundreds of years. Perhaps, it is incapable of what people see as "good." If so, the actions of a "ghost" that cannot do otherwise would not be "evil" or "immoral"
"A ghost latched onto you. They will fulfill your desires and the people you don't like will disappear"
That's ... very good news? The "ghost" must have a heart of gold to offer such random acts of kindness. If they were to grant my wishes, the whole world would disappear
"You look stunning, how do I say you're hot in Russian?" "Get out of my face before I sue you for sexual harassment" (episode 2, 30:00)
"The rape videos of Ms. K, I downloaded them ... to investigate! As a police officer" (episode 4, 45:10)
Hyun Ho, the creepy, delusional police officer who looked Eun Soo up and down, made suggestive comments about Eun Soo's body, invited Eun Soo to a club, downloaded rape videos for "research purposes," etc was creeped out by his male stalker
Men fear that they will be treated the way they treat women, the irony!
A wise man once said, "you two should stick together no matter what" (episode 2, 47:20)
Sang Yi (Woo Jin) dug so deeply into Do Hwan (Geon Woo)'s past sentiments that in search of shared interests, he found trust, humility and love. He was intrigued by the smile upon Do Hwan (Geon Woo)'s face, and the sadness within his eyes
The boys said nothing with their voices and everything with their caring touches, and that was the beginning of their journey. The struggles they endured will be the "good old days" they laugh about tomorrow
برای تداوم رابطه ی بین دو شخصیت اصلی، 2 ساعت کافی نبود. داستان…
حق با شماست. هر ثانیه سریال های کوتاه باارزشه. سریال هایی بودن مثل سمنتیک ارر و اور دیتینگ سیم که در همین 2 ساعت مهارت های داستان نویسی و تصویربرداری خودشون رو محک زدن و با داستان های باکیفیتشون سهم بزرگی در درخشش بی ال داشتن. نویسنده و کارگردان استار استراک از زمان درست استفاده نکردن
از دیدن شما خوشحالم هموطن عزیز
و خوشحالم که رسانه های اجتماعی به ما کمک می کنن تا همدیگرو پیدا کنیم
بیشتر شبیه این بود که یه فیلم سینمایی رو دادن به تدوینگر ناشی…
برای تداوم رابطه ی بین دو شخصیت اصلی، 2 ساعت کافی نبود. داستان از نظر روایت ضعف های جدی داشت چون تا قسمت 6 ابراز علاقه برای زوهو و اینسانگ کار پرمشقت و اضطراب آوری بود
داستان هیجان انگیزی بود و اگه زمان بیشتری داشتن، داستان هیجان انگیزتری هم می شد
Why Japan? I was afraid, based on the title, this would be Thai-style fluff, but I enjoyed the first two episodes,…
Even though your unimaginative use of profanity and ad hominem was the effort of a feeble, bitter brain to express itself in the heat of the moment, it sprung from good intentions. It takes an inner gratification in spreading the joy of gay love
Your explanation was fascinating for this discussion. It highlighted the issue of the chronically accessible de-sexualization of gay idols by women, which I agreed with in my previous comment:
"Homophobia may manifest itself differently in fluffy, de-sexualized gay stories. The refusal by the executive organs of sexuality to carry out gay acts, although the men show themselves to be intact and capable of performing the acts, and although a strong inclination to carry out the acts is present, has always raised my eyebrows"
Why Japan? I was afraid, based on the title, this would be Thai-style fluff, but I enjoyed the first two episodes,…
"The K-Pop agencies have figured out lots of little girls like to watch cute little boys PRETENDING to be in love and no sex allowed, please. Yuck"
Why the emphasis on "pretending?" The purpose of acting is to pretend. Actors may pretend to be doctors, engineers, presidents, service agents, gangsters, martial artists, openly gay people, etc. Acting asserts what actors do not think true or veridical. It is a socially acceptable form of lying, schizophrenia or deception where the audience dispose of truth, critical thinking and logic for something that is false, unreal or impossible in reality
To develop a coherent account of morality, you would have to treat all acting as closely related, if not equivalent, to pretense. The complete absence of falsehood and reluctance to admit falsehood would inform subsequent conclusions about the nature of acting; namely that "straight" stories are a set of lies agreed upon by the homophobic majority. A boy and a girl, a man and a woman, pretend to be together to entertain girls, boys, women and men of all ages
Do you harbor the same deep feelings of resentment toward "straight" roles that you do toward gay roles? If not, your inconsistent morality implies one thing as well as its negation and tells us nothing about the world. It would be illogical to trust such a morality
Agreed, however, that homophobia may manifest itself differently in fluffy, de-sexualized gay stories. The refusal by the executive organs of sexuality to carry out gay acts, although the men show themselves to be intact and capable of performing the acts, and although a strong inclination to carry out the acts is present, has always raised my eyebrows
Ji Eun (Hee Ah) minimized the quality of my viewing experience. She was a distraction that outlived her usefulness
However important it was to keep a woman with better financial prospects close, Joon Gi (Hee Woo) enticed his mind from subjects of equal importance: his job, family and team members. For him to see Ji Eun (Hee Ah) as more than just a business opportunity to climb the social ladder is to move hither and thither without a fixed course or aim
The "straight" agenda struck down what could have been a noble prosecutor or politician
"Maybe he swings the other way" (episode 15, 09:52)
He should have! Joon Gi (Hee Woo) collected men like Pokémon cards. Do Gyeom (Seung Wan), Sang Hoon (Min Soo), Ji Chan (Sang Man), Kyung Min (Seung Hyuk), Chul Ki (Seok Gyu), Choi Min (Yeon Seok), In Gyu (Min Guk), Young Jo (Seong Ho) and Woo Sung (K) were enchanted by him. Something about him drew their eyes
To fall in love with the same-sex; the only intimate, splendid romance. The intimacy between the men would have taken them unawares and hurled them into each other’s arms
Do Gyeom (Seung Wan): "You will come with me to the meet-and-greet, right [Joon Gi-ya]?" Sang Hoon (Min Soo): "I don't want to" Do Gyeom (Seung Wan): "Noone asked. Oh, and we will have to wear a suit [Joon Gi-ya]" Sang Hoon (Min Soo): "So annoying" Do Gyeom (Seung Wan): "You said you're not coming. You won't be missed" Sang Hoon (Min Soo): "How can I not when [what's mine] will come?" Do Gyeom (Seung Wan): "Who said he's yours?!" Joon Gi (Hee Woo): ... (episode 2, 43:26)
Sang Hoon (Min Soo): "You're not laughing" Joon Gi (Hee Woo): "Because you and I see eye to eye" Sang Hoon (Min Soo): "I knew it, we are meant to be. Will you marry me?" (episode 2, 52:40)
Joon Gi (Hee Woo): "How did you find me?" Ji Chan (Sang Man): "You didn't think you could hide from me, did you?" (episode 5, 49:31)
Ji Chan (Sang Man): "Can I sleep next to you?" Joon Gi (Hee Woo): ... (episode 5, 59:56)
Ji Chan (Sang Man): "Isn't this dangerous?" Joon Gi (Hee Woo): "It won't be. It's me we are talking about" Ji Chan (Sang Man): "That's sexy! Will you marry me?" (episode 5, 1:03:51)
Joon Gi (Hee Woo): "You're talented, why are you working for me?" Ji Chan (Sang Man): "Because I like you" Joon Gi (Hee Woo): 🥺😊❤️ (episode 12, 40:50)
Joon Gi (Hee Woo) was caught in a foursome from the moment he was admitted to law school. Torn between his three suitors, who will he pick? Do Gyeom (Seung Wan), Sang Hoon (Min Soo), Ji Chan (Sang Man) or all three of them? All three of them, of course
Poor you. You have understood nothing about life...
I knew from a young age that "motherhood" was a cage I will never inhabit
I can sympathize with your situation. Say what you feel about your "parents," because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. You have every right to hold them responsible for what they did to you
Poor you. You have understood nothing about life...
Childfree people take into their regard considerations concerning future others who would have occupied this overpopulated world after they themselves are gone. They are responsible actors who hold themselves and their "parents" to external oversight
You are incapable of bringing extended considerations into your realm of concern. "Love" and "happiness" clouded your judgement
It takes a great deal of bravery for an idol to play gay roles. Their will to rebel against society, to eat the…
It's not as bad as you fitting your entire vocabulary into one-sentence drivels
"Idols do not do as they please. They are tightly controlled by their agencies"
Everyone's "choices" are manipulated by the powers that be. The idols were "free" to "choose" what they willed; to advance their careers, play "straight" or BL roles, etc. The agencies did not threaten them to sign their contracts or debut
I'm a bit late to the series but...I'm just 5 minutes into ep 1 and already annoyed by the plot xD. "Don't believe…
"... love does play an important role. And it's not like you can believe in it as you believe in God. It exists. Period"
What seems obvious to you camouflages deeper questions for others. Such is the state of affairs that fuels the dilemma about the existence of love
You would have to explain what the word "exists" means in the context of love. To a physicist, love exists as an emergent property of a collection of molecules or atoms. To a biologist, love exists as a chemical reaction—a reward system, a subcortical circuit, a localized cortical region (or set of regions), a profile of endocrine, inflammatory, or cardiovascular responses in addition to a diagnostic facial expression and set of behaviors that can be recognized in people, etc
Then, you would have to explain what the word "love" means. Love as a god-given instruction for a successful marriage or a constant, consistent, unconditional enthusiasm does not exist. Love changes or fades with time
We know love exists—that is, subjectively. It's objectively, that it does not exist. Love cannot be measured and does not continue to exist in the absence of a human mind to perceive it (i.e., it's perceiver dependent)
It is in this more objective sense that we say, "love does not exist." These are not idle semantics. They are quandaries that strike right to the heart of how language works
"I'm not sure if I wanna dive further into the series"
Please, do. Lee Jun's fear of love was a reaction to his failed relationships. He learns to love and be loved in later episodes
Perhaps, he was too embarrassed by the tag to remove it right then and there?
That explains why he didn't remove the tag. As you said, it's common for people to buy wearable items with the intention of returning them after use. Perhaps, that's what he had the intention of doing
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One may claim that desires are not immoral, that they do not affect others or that they are predetermined. Why wouldn't actions be predetermined? A condition for an action to count as immoral is that an agent can do otherwise. Are "ghosts" moral agents? Do they have free will? The "ghost" of this story has been an "evil spirit" for hundreds of years. Perhaps, it is incapable of what people see as "good." If so, the actions of a "ghost" that cannot do otherwise would not be "evil" or "immoral"
That's ... very good news? The "ghost" must have a heart of gold to offer such random acts of kindness. If they were to grant my wishes, the whole world would disappear
"Get out of my face before I sue you for sexual harassment" (episode 2, 30:00)
"The rape videos of Ms. K, I downloaded them ... to investigate! As a police officer" (episode 4, 45:10)
Hyun Ho, the creepy, delusional police officer who looked Eun Soo up and down, made suggestive comments about Eun Soo's body, invited Eun Soo to a club, downloaded rape videos for "research purposes," etc was creeped out by his male stalker
Men fear that they will be treated the way they treat women, the irony!
Sang Yi (Woo Jin) dug so deeply into Do Hwan (Geon Woo)'s past sentiments that in search of shared interests, he found trust, humility and love. He was intrigued by the smile upon Do Hwan (Geon Woo)'s face, and the sadness within his eyes
The boys said nothing with their voices and everything with their caring touches, and that was the beginning of their journey. The struggles they endured will be the "good old days" they laugh about tomorrow
از دیدن شما خوشحالم هموطن عزیز
و خوشحالم که رسانه های اجتماعی به ما کمک می کنن تا همدیگرو پیدا کنیم
داستان هیجان انگیزی بود و اگه زمان بیشتری داشتن، داستان هیجان انگیزتری هم می شد
Your explanation was fascinating for this discussion. It highlighted the issue of the chronically accessible de-sexualization of gay idols by women, which I agreed with in my previous comment:
"Homophobia may manifest itself differently in fluffy, de-sexualized gay stories. The refusal by the executive organs of sexuality to carry out gay acts, although the men show themselves to be intact and capable of performing the acts, and although a strong inclination to carry out the acts is present, has always raised my eyebrows"
Cheers
Why the emphasis on "pretending?" The purpose of acting is to pretend. Actors may pretend to be doctors, engineers, presidents, service agents, gangsters, martial artists, openly gay people, etc. Acting asserts what actors do not think true or veridical. It is a socially acceptable form of lying, schizophrenia or deception where the audience dispose of truth, critical thinking and logic for something that is false, unreal or impossible in reality
To develop a coherent account of morality, you would have to treat all acting as closely related, if not equivalent, to pretense. The complete absence of falsehood and reluctance to admit falsehood would inform subsequent conclusions about the nature of acting; namely that "straight" stories are a set of lies agreed upon by the homophobic majority. A boy and a girl, a man and a woman, pretend to be together to entertain girls, boys, women and men of all ages
Do you harbor the same deep feelings of resentment toward "straight" roles that you do toward gay roles? If not, your inconsistent morality implies one thing as well as its negation and tells us nothing about the world. It would be illogical to trust such a morality
Agreed, however, that homophobia may manifest itself differently in fluffy, de-sexualized gay stories. The refusal by the executive organs of sexuality to carry out gay acts, although the men show themselves to be intact and capable of performing the acts, and although a strong inclination to carry out the acts is present, has always raised my eyebrows
Sang Man was the first to call him out on it. He asked him, "are you a pervert?"
However important it was to keep a woman with better financial prospects close, Joon Gi (Hee Woo) enticed his mind from subjects of equal importance: his job, family and team members. For him to see Ji Eun (Hee Ah) as more than just a business opportunity to climb the social ladder is to move hither and thither without a fixed course or aim
The "straight" agenda struck down what could have been a noble prosecutor or politician
"Maybe he swings the other way" (episode 15, 09:52)
He should have! Joon Gi (Hee Woo) collected men like Pokémon cards. Do Gyeom (Seung Wan), Sang Hoon (Min Soo), Ji Chan (Sang Man), Kyung Min (Seung Hyuk), Chul Ki (Seok Gyu), Choi Min (Yeon Seok), In Gyu (Min Guk), Young Jo (Seong Ho) and Woo Sung (K) were enchanted by him. Something about him drew their eyes
To fall in love with the same-sex; the only intimate, splendid romance. The intimacy between the men would have taken them unawares and hurled them into each other’s arms
Sang Hoon (Min Soo): "I don't want to"
Do Gyeom (Seung Wan): "Noone asked. Oh, and we will have to wear a suit [Joon Gi-ya]"
Sang Hoon (Min Soo): "So annoying"
Do Gyeom (Seung Wan): "You said you're not coming. You won't be missed"
Sang Hoon (Min Soo): "How can I not when [what's mine] will come?"
Do Gyeom (Seung Wan): "Who said he's yours?!"
Joon Gi (Hee Woo): ... (episode 2, 43:26)
Sang Hoon (Min Soo): "You're not laughing"
Joon Gi (Hee Woo): "Because you and I see eye to eye"
Sang Hoon (Min Soo): "I knew it, we are meant to be. Will you marry me?" (episode 2, 52:40)
Joon Gi (Hee Woo): "How did you find me?"
Ji Chan (Sang Man): "You didn't think you could hide from me, did you?" (episode 5, 49:31)
Ji Chan (Sang Man): "Can I sleep next to you?"
Joon Gi (Hee Woo): ... (episode 5, 59:56)
Ji Chan (Sang Man): "Isn't this dangerous?"
Joon Gi (Hee Woo): "It won't be. It's me we are talking about"
Ji Chan (Sang Man): "That's sexy! Will you marry me?" (episode 5, 1:03:51)
Joon Gi (Hee Woo): "You're talented, why are you working for me?"
Ji Chan (Sang Man): "Because I like you"
Joon Gi (Hee Woo): 🥺😊❤️ (episode 12, 40:50)
Joon Gi (Hee Woo) was caught in a foursome from the moment he was admitted to law school. Torn between his three suitors, who will he pick? Do Gyeom (Seung Wan), Sang Hoon (Min Soo), Ji Chan (Sang Man) or all three of them? All three of them, of course
Ha Neul (Hee Yeol): "I'm going to an internet café with you"
He wanted to spend the holiday season with his man 🥺
I can sympathize with your situation. Say what you feel about your "parents," because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. You have every right to hold them responsible for what they did to you
You are incapable of bringing extended considerations into your realm of concern. "Love" and "happiness" clouded your judgement
"Idols do not do as they please. They are tightly controlled by their agencies"
Everyone's "choices" are manipulated by the powers that be. The idols were "free" to "choose" what they willed; to advance their careers, play "straight" or BL roles, etc. The agencies did not threaten them to sign their contracts or debut
What seems obvious to you camouflages deeper questions for others. Such is the state of affairs that fuels the dilemma about the existence of love
You would have to explain what the word "exists" means in the context of love. To a physicist, love exists as an emergent property of a collection of molecules or atoms. To a biologist, love exists as a chemical reaction—a reward system, a subcortical circuit, a localized cortical region (or set of regions), a profile of endocrine, inflammatory, or cardiovascular responses in addition to a diagnostic facial expression and set of behaviors that can be recognized in people, etc
Then, you would have to explain what the word "love" means. Love as a god-given instruction for a successful marriage or a constant, consistent, unconditional enthusiasm does not exist. Love changes or fades with time
We know love exists—that is, subjectively. It's objectively, that it does not exist. Love cannot be measured and does not continue to exist in the absence of a human mind to perceive it (i.e., it's perceiver dependent)
It is in this more objective sense that we say, "love does not exist." These are not idle semantics. They are quandaries that strike right to the heart of how language works
"I'm not sure if I wanna dive further into the series"
Please, do. Lee Jun's fear of love was a reaction to his failed relationships. He learns to love and be loved in later episodes