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Oh, I know something about it because I watched a lot of series from these countries. But I'm not so much interested in current politics towards picturing same-sex couples in series but rather in, for example, how many people support marriage equality or can gay couples walking freely hand in hand in the public places. For example in Western series common motif is beating gays. In Asian's series it's very rarely situation, does it mean that there is no homophobic crimes in Thailand or Taiwan? How far reaching conclusions can we draw from these series? I've watched few China's series and I know they're censored (no kissing even) so I'm pretty sure that it's not very welcome there.

Wow... so I should watch what I write:) I'm watching BL dramas from 2017 (24 December, to be precise), so I'm taking about Thai, Viet, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea (and 1 China) BL dramas. I don't know anything about other dramas (I've also watched a lot of BL movies from these countries). So this is my 'research group':) As to long-distance relationships, if we are too long in such relationship I would have considered if it's still a relationship at all. But that's just my (another) private opinion.

I see. Thank you very much. Hm... honestly we see things differently and that's very good that we share an opinion:) I have always seen that they don't talk about being gay as a part of Asian sexuality, something like pansexuality, we fall in love with people not gender. Yes, I noticed that they're based on novels. Of course you're right, these are fairy tales, but, as a classicist, I can say that art has to be understandable for it's recipients. We study history and cultures among other things by such fairy tales (for example Greek tragedy or, more generally, every written source). Moreover, these fairy tales are most valuable for us because archaeology never gives us information about people's believes, views of the world and so on. That's why I'm very interesting to what point this fairy tales reflect reality. I've never looked about BL dramas from this point of view like you do, so it's very interesting. Was there trans person in You're My Sky...? I can;t remember right now...

What documents you have in mind?:) I know a little bit about Thailand. But it's very little:)

Maybe:) don't get me wrong, I love bl series:) maybe I'm just thinking too much:D

Oh... I didn't know about gender surgery. Thank you very much for your answer:)

I'm watching Asian bl dramas from 5 years, I watched almost all of them so I wouldn't say I;m new, but I must say that I'm watching only bl (the only except, as far as I remember, was Blacklist). First of all, I honestly don't see it is so very common trope. But that's only my opinion based on bl dramas I've watched. Second of all, I'm very surprised that you're implying that this series is so very different from series on Gagaoolala... but, as I said, that's only my (second) opinion. Hm... so you are saying that this series doesn't reflect real life relationships in Asia?
PS. Rom coms = romance comedies?

Hm... I'm watching gay romance dramas:) which genre should I watch then?
PS. Don't get me wrong, it's not like I'm furious because of it. I love watching cute happy-ending dramas with hot guys. That's all:) I'm not very demanding, I know it's not Bergman, Kubrick or Visconti:)

Thanks for your answer. I really don't know why should I dispute with you or especially attack you. I don't know much about Asia, I'm classicist, but I love history (whole world) and cultural studies (especially history of sexuality) and I also love Asian bl movies and series that's why I asked. So relax, I'm not any freak which want to prove a point, especially when I don't have any point to prove. But I'm a little confused about your answer... you wrote that they do not accept and then you said that in Cambodia they do and in Thailand is a lot of people from LGBT community... it's a little bit contradictory... I know that in much part of Asia it's viewed badly, that's why I asked about series, I meant the progressive countries which are producing these series (Thailand, Vietnam, Taiwan, Japan, Philippines, South Korea, Cambodia (I saw only 1 from this country)). So you didn't live in Thailand or in other 'progressive' countries except from Cambodia? I'm sorry for being persistent I'm just asking from pure (academic) curiosity.

I just shared my thought. I think that it's not a problem if people see it as a warning. But if someone is watching this and thinking 'oh, they could so can I' then it's a problem. I get it, of course, it's just one series, but, like I've written, it's not just about one series. It's another series with such a concept. I just want people to treasure more their feelings and to remember that not every mistake can be repaired.

Yes, for girls it's tougher. It's very sad. But even for guys so much can happen: you can die, you can not coming back, you can fall in love in someone else (he was in Australia). I just want people to treasure more their feelings and to remember that not every mistake can be repair. I understand that you are Asian (Thai?), so let me ask you: do all these series show real social attitude toward LGBT? Yeah, I know it's fiction, young, handsome, living in palaces, driving Mercedes, studying medicine or engineering, but that's not so important for me. I'm interested in social attitude toward LGBT.

It’s another series which presents so irritating concept so I decided to write a comment (I even registered here to do that). I really don't know why concept of going back to the past is presented on yet another series. Folks, there is no going back to the past. We can’t click ‘pause’, go abroad for x years, go back, click ‘play’ and start everything in the same place where we paused. It’s impossible. And I’m not sure if the series are presenting it as a warning. Someone will say ‘but he did it to help his boyfriend pursue his dreams’, yeah I get it but the (sad?) truth is we can’t have everything, being in a relationship demands sacrifice, not only TO MAKE sacrifice but also TO TAKE sacrifice. To speak philosophically there is no such thing as freedom, just because we are mortals, we will die. Biology limits us. Being-in-the-world, like Heidegger would say, is being dependent from the world, being which must confront with mortality and living in relationship with other humans. Human living is realising only some possibilities and other is rejecting. We have to accept this. We can never realise all possibilities. And I think there sould be series which are teaching it: being in a relationship (any relationship, not necessarily sexual) is always self-confining. I don’t know that much about Asian’s cultures, but I heard somewhere that Asians have cyclical concept of time, unlike Europeans which have linear concept, maybe that is the reason why this series presents such a concept.