Warriorpride_09

Hmmm ok I said it might not apply to you to not seem harsh but I seen the pattern in your replies too. Your responses to anyone who said anything negative about Non even without mentioning Keng or cheating are aggressive. Not only that, you refer to him as a child to gain sympathy, do the other same age characters receive the same "he is a child" defense or is Non the only child?

You try to call out other bl fangirls about not being able to handle heavy topics but you aren't doing such a great job of handling the fact that not everyone sees Non the way you do, I just find that ironic. I however love dark themes in my bl's and characters who aren't perfect. And no Non is not perfect and it has nothing to do with Keng. He did make bad decisions, again nothing to do with Keng. The biggest of which was getting the other members caught up in bank fraud and money laundering even Tee tried to spare his friends from that. Still sympathize with him though just because he is not perfect doesn't change the fact he was victimized. He doesn't need to be perfect to be seen as a victim.

I said it might not apply to you but there is definitely a pattern I have noticed on this board.

This is a forum about a fictional tv show, what people would think about this in real life isn't what is being discussed. I would hope that the many people who want Non or whoever is getting revenge on him to kill everybody is not what they would think about a real life event or at least I hope not. What Phee thought about it is very much relevant because his reaction influenced how some people viewed the situation. "If his boyfriend sees it as cheating then it must be". Again this is within this fictional world of DFF. 2 things can be true at once on the show Non can be a cheater (Phee's POV) and he was groomed but real world vs fictional has to be separated in a forum like this to keep sanity.

Listennnn you know better than to think the majority of bl fans actually want more mature shows or anything out of the ordinary or characters who are not 100% innocent at all times lol

I've been looking forward to that scene with the blood splashing on Jin's face with his creepy smile since I seen it but I just realized that was the Pre-release so most likely won't be in the show at all. Phee was definitely lying to both Tan and himself

Try to stay focused where in my comment did I mention anything about his father hitting him. My point is they clearly paid attention to their son and got him help when he needed it. 17 years of parenting does not boil down to 1 moment. No one in this series is perfect. Period.

Lets be for real who watches this show for sex scenes. There have barely been any. So what if some people think he is a cheater does that affect how you view him? He is/was a 17 year boy who had sex with someone, was he groomed yes, absolutely. Did his boyfriend at the time see that as cheating also yes. Would your original comment have been made if it was any other character or do you only care about grooming when it affects your favorite? (Its a vibe I've been picking up from comments here but it might not apply to you)

They clearly did see how miserable he is and took him to see a doctor. We see the proof of that with the medicine he took.

You would think based on the comments that it wasnt just a plot device to breakup Phee/Non and send Non spiraling.

Comments like this are so gross. Based on the comments I have been reading you don't have the moral high ground here. You're personally attacking someone over a fictional series because they don't agree with you. Were you the commenter that said people lack empathy? What you need to keep in mind is that not everyone is from the same country as you or have the same shared experiences. Classic ad hominem

Yes! At the beginning it was fun reading all the theories but now its all Non is an angel so let me tell you why Jin is bad or Jin did nothing wrong here's why Non is bad.

I know you were being sarcastic so was I. This show has a lot of shady characters especially these grown ups who should have been helping. I think the op was speaking of the high school kids not being all good/bad not in general but I could be wrong.

Hmmmmm were you bullied first? A lot of people here think bullying is a good enough reason for death....

This is a show not the real world and a bl at that asking people to care about what happened when the show itself didnt put significance to Non/Keng is not surprising. I also think that most people who bring up the situation between Non/Keng, don't actually care id it was really a crime or not they are just mad that some people said it was Non cheating on Phee, if it was Tee/Keng I can guarantee the comments wouldn't be this numerous or passionate. As much as people say they want a different type of bl the fact that this show only gained traction because of Phee/Jin, Phee/Non and Tee/White and when they switched to the high school setting says a lot.

I'm just going to correct something here also. This narrative that Non had no one is incorrect. He had more than no one and options. He had a loving boyfriend who even went to his father (who is a police officer) to help him and who did help, a brother and 2 parents that gave everything including their lives to find answers about what happened to him. Doesn't change the fact that he/was very vulnerable but don't lose sight of the facts to paint a narrative. Yup these teens are assholes for sure but they are a dime a dozen.

That said I'm happy I can watch this show without a favorite. It must be exhausting not being able to sit back and enjoy a show like this

ETA: I'm so mad at myself for just writing an essay when literally all my thoughts after the episode ended were completely shallow and filled with intrigue. This forum distracted me!

Yes! Get a confession, record it and expose all of them.

Non's justice definitely wont come from them going to jail because based on what we have seen so far none of them have done anything to get arrested for. Unfortunately being assholes is not against the law. Well Tee could for drugging Non but that can get explained away by saying Non attacked them first and sadly that was caught on camera and we have seen the police already do some shady stuff in order to close the case which ultimately led to Non's parents killing themselves. I actually feel the most horrible for them. They literally gave everything in order to find out what happened to their son and all they received was police corruption and road blocks.

Nahhh the plan was to get close to them and hopefully know more but clearly that didnt happen so desperation led to the drugging plan. Even the drugging plan isn't giving answers so far

I love this show! The preview for episode 10 is trippy. Tan looked genuinely terrified at one point so I'm thinking as unhinged as he seems there are multiple forces at play here (I just rewatched episode 1 and Tan was high with Fluke and Top when Por was impaled so yea this show will keep us guessing until the last minute)

Whats funny/not funny at all is that Tan/ Phee created this whole revenge plot to find out what happened to Non and after 2 years they still know nothing!

So what do we think is Non dead or still alive? Is there a supernatural element or is it just the drug making them hallucinate?

I get it Non seems to be your favorite so you want everyone to love him/feel bad for him, doesnt change the fact that Phee thinks it was cheating.

Your last sentence makes me think this is more about shipping and less about the "cheating". Who cares what Phee/Jin fans or other shippers think. I could write a whole essay on why everyone should feel bad for Tee as he is a victim of circumstances but I wont because people will think what they will

He said a lot of things like that he didnt know Non. He didn't need to have sex with him to get close to him. That plan didnt work since years later they are at the same spot of knowing nothing

Well this is a show not real life and in this show Non's boyfriend Phee considered it cheating so it really doesn't matter what you, I or anyone else outside the show wants to call it in real life.

PS. Im not saying he wasnt taken advantage of but I wish this topic could be contained in one thread/discussion

The most I have seen was people looking for clarification on the status of their relationship which is not suprising since as you said its a reality dating show so why wouldnt people be curious about that considering we watched 10 episodes to find that out. Literally the whole purpose of the show. That has nothing to do with repecting privacy. Haven't seen anyone saying for them to do fan service or treating them like "bl characters" except for the people saying they are a confirmed couple because they picked each other on a show 6 months ago when neither Gino or Guan Yu have said that.