If you guys notice on MDL's ^episode guide^ section, some people are actively downgrading this drama.... For the…
Waste of effort anyway. No one cares about ratings on MDL. The de facto sites are IMDb, Rotten Tomatoes, trakt. For Koreans, only ratings within Korea matters.
who cares aslong if they can debut..i think its kinda nice and refreshing to see foreigners winning.Because korean…
For me, I hope the only Korean is Seonwon. And Hyeon-Ju, half-Korean, half-Filipino.
The rest, aside from Elisia and Gehlee, should be the Japanese girls.
As far as competition goes, it's a huge challenge for Japanese girls to compete with Koreans. Well, even in non-competitions, Koreans are highly favoured over Japanese.
If this nyw girl group ends up being dominated by Japanese, I think we can truly say that the Korean idol industry has finally come full circle.
People have forgotten that the Korean idol industry originated from the J-pop idol industry. If what I'm wishing for happens, it will definitely shake the idol industry in Asia.
It's going to send a strong message that non-Koreans are as good as Koreans, probably even better. And those judges are big names in the Korean scene, especially Kim Sim Jeong who herself came out of a survival talent show.
For me, this new group is that one chance to show that non-Koreans can stand head-to-head with them, even though we do not have the same rigorous training methods.
Speaking of that, it will also shake the Korean idol industry itself. They will finally understand that extreme training methods are not the key to success, rather, it's about talent, skills, and character.
They might even start pushing for major reforms in how they do things, and give more protection to their talents. Who knows? Hopefully, this group can show that, and F&F won't copy the other companies.
Never forget, in K-drama land, the the character that appears trustworthy in a mystery/crime genre is usually…
Yeah, all the characters are suspects. I stopped trying to figure it out. LOL.
Even the main character, I can't tell if it was her imagination or real. Definitely a mix. Some are real, some were imagined. But I just can't tell which. They're not leaving any clues.
In every episode and scene, they will lead the audience to certain directions, only to change it later in the episode or in the next episode.
The writer should write a spy novel instead!!! Hahaha. The detectives and military folks will love it.
Oh. They messed up the time of her death. She was murdered Min-ju October 13, 1999 not in 1998.FL arrived July…
Interesting.
In that case, I guess that's one of the things they changed.
In the original source material, she did die in 1999. So, I was under the impression that when they were filming, they originally made the timeline shorter; and while they were filming, they decided to include the Christmas scene from the original material, forgetting they changed the time of death in their adaptation.
“SBS’s Girl Group Survival Show “Universe Ticket” Cancels Seoul Concert”“Unfortunately, we must inform…
At this point, it's pretty obvious at least half of the 8-member group will be foreigners and underage. There are Korean visa and school issues to consider.
They probably only checked this when it became obvious there will be foreigners in the group. (I guess they only expected Korean girls to win, so they didn't check earlier.)
Anyway, this is F&F's first foray into the entertainment industry, and with foreign talents at that.
“SBS’s Girl Group Survival Show “Universe Ticket” Cancels Seoul Concert”
“Unfortunately, we must inform you that the “UNIVERSE TICKET Tour in Seoul” concert is cancelled due to E-6 visa transfers for foreign performers and academic issues.”
In fairness to F&F, this is their first time in the entertainment industry, so that's fine.
I strongly believe that you never break the Bro Code, you never cross that line, but only the writers are to blame…
Q: Are you going to wait in line because a friend of yours courted the girl first? A: No.
I've been there. The girl was actually making for me to make a move, she was literally ignoroeg the other guy. What would've happened if I "waited in line" when the guy won't even stop?
As is always said, "May the best man win". :)
Q: If you love someone dearly, would you still him/her? A: Yes.
Someone did that to me. I've experienced it first hand.
Out of stupid "revenge", I myself stole someone else's girlfriend years later.
99% I won't do it again, not because of some "bro code", rather, because I know what kind of relationship comes out of it. Which the idiot me already knew in the first place, but I still did it because my ex was stolen, I want someone else to experience it too. Which again was stupid.
As long as there are no legal and religious issues, All is fair in love and war.
Don't let stigma control your life. I am autistic. For years, I chose to "hide" because of stigma.
When EAW premiered, I told myself, "enough is enough, I will fight against discrimination, prejudice, and stigma".
The "bro code" is simply the gentler label for social stigma. Stigma that, like it or not, what people like to whisper behind people's back.
I say, let them talk! If that's their happiness, then I contributed to their happiness.
Again, no legal and religious issues, then "All is fair in love and war" and "May the best man win".
I strongly believe that you never break the Bro Code, you never cross that line, but only the writers are to blame…
And why would you let what other people say affect you?
If you love the ex of your ex, go for it. Don't let other people dictate who you can love or not love. As long as you are not violating your country's laws (or religious beliefs) on relationship (cousins for example), love each other!
You're asking me if I would do that? Yes. If I'm interested, it's a resounding yes.
I strongly believe that you never break the Bro Code, you never cross that line, but only the writers are to blame…
The real issue is, should you tell the girl or not. Because it is true that the girl will be the one who will carry that burden, while the guy gets himself free from it. The girl will more likely be awkward, but the guy won't. Unless the girl thinks like the guy as well.
However, "bro code" in love and war? No. "All is fair in love and war" is an axiom that stands the test of time.
I don't usually criticize opinions here but the statement that Yong-pil's life has been entirely revolved around…
Exactly. As someone who is going through that, I've silently told myself that "I'm tired living for them, I want to do things for myself". If my world revolved around myself, or my exes, I would have lived on Mars already.
So, yeah, in a way, Yong-pil is relatable. Different circumstances, but similar in many ways.
I still hold to my opinion that the father is poorly written. I like the story but not the way it was executed.…
It's okay, re: "poorly written", I wasn't referring to how it was written. :)
Rather, it was to how the character of the father is being hated, some even claiming that no such person exist in real life, or how unrealistic that character is. Which is actually an insult to the people who lived with such a person.
How it was written, or executed, is not my point/concern in my post. ^_^
See? Don't hate the father. As I've said when the series started, he's stuck in his own world. Either he spiral…
Now, the remaining issue is that "beach".
She too has a story behind her. However, the difference with Yong-Pil's father is that she commited crimes: fraud, theft, libel, slander, defamation.
While we can understand why she is the way she is, crimes have to be paid. Either in prison, or a psych hospital. And so far, there is no doubt sothe "beach" did those things with full control of herself. In other words, she's doing these things willfully and intentionally, without remorse at that.
Sad it may be, but people like that have to be isolated from society.
See? Don't hate the father. As I've said when the series started, he's stuck in his own world. Either he spiral into self-blame if Samdal's mother died, or he'll continue shutting everyone out.
There are people who put up walls around themselves so they won't get hurt than they already are. Deep pain is serious. It pierces into your soul, to the point that you no longer know you're hurting everyone around you as well as yourself.
It's okay if you don't understand. I understood the father because I grew up with a parent who also have a deep pain, a deep resentment, he cannot let go. I've seen with my own eyes what it is like.
I myself hated. I myself got angry. But in the end, what my grandmother said when I was kid, trumped. Why? Because what she told me was right. She had an insight that I never would have, she was after my parent's mother.
It's the same here, with the father, and every single out there with deep pain and deep resentment. Don't hate them. It is hard. It is painful. It makes you angry. But don't hate them.
These people going through this? Deep inside they also hate the fact they're causing pain to others, especially to the people they love. But they can't let go. They are too afraid. They created a world of their own. They are afraid to face their fears and the reality.
If you haven't experienced living with such a person, be very thankful you don't have to go through what I, and many others, have and are going through. It is never easy.
Some will say, "live them alone!" Can you truly do that as a family member? As a human being?
I'm not saying your solution is wrong. No. I 100% agree with you. You have no idea how many times I thought and did exactly that, myself. But I just can't take it to see this parent to be hurting even more.
Mind you. I am autistic. "Experts" say autistics are emotionless, and incapable of empathy and compassion. (Which I disagree.) How more non-autistics? Can you do that? Just leave them despite fully knowing why they are the way they are?
Or, maybe, it is because I am autistic hence I can't do it. Because for us autistics, everything is either hypo or hyper.
It's easy to angry, hate, resent, be it in real life or against a fictional character. But it is never easy to understand, to be patient, to sacrifice, to live, and to love.
My reason is the BGM. It was uplifting. It was "justice". Justice for what what she had to endure from her childhood, husband, and the crimes around her.
The BGM gave me the feeling that all she had to go through, and her strength and belief she won't get Remington's disease, were "finally paid off".
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They're wasting their time and effort. LOLs.
The rest, aside from Elisia and Gehlee, should be the Japanese girls.
As far as competition goes, it's a huge challenge for Japanese girls to compete with Koreans. Well, even in non-competitions, Koreans are highly favoured over Japanese.
If this nyw girl group ends up being dominated by Japanese, I think we can truly say that the Korean idol industry has finally come full circle.
People have forgotten that the Korean idol industry originated from the J-pop idol industry. If what I'm wishing for happens, it will definitely shake the idol industry in Asia.
It's going to send a strong message that non-Koreans are as good as Koreans, probably even better. And those judges are big names in the Korean scene, especially Kim Sim Jeong who herself came out of a survival talent show.
For me, this new group is that one chance to show that non-Koreans can stand head-to-head with them, even though we do not have the same rigorous training methods.
Speaking of that, it will also shake the Korean idol industry itself. They will finally understand that extreme training methods are not the key to success, rather, it's about talent, skills, and character.
They might even start pushing for major reforms in how they do things, and give more protection to their talents. Who knows? Hopefully, this group can show that, and F&F won't copy the other companies.
Time to shake the idol industry in Asia.
Even the main character, I can't tell if it was her imagination or real. Definitely a mix. Some are real, some were imagined. But I just can't tell which. They're not leaving any clues.
In every episode and scene, they will lead the audience to certain directions, only to change it later in the episode or in the next episode.
The writer should write a spy novel instead!!! Hahaha. The detectives and military folks will love it.
In that case, I guess that's one of the things they changed.
In the original source material, she did die in 1999. So, I was under the impression that when they were filming, they originally made the timeline shorter; and while they were filming, they decided to include the Christmas scene from the original material, forgetting they changed the time of death in their adaptation.
They probably only checked this when it became obvious there will be foreigners in the group. (I guess they only expected Korean girls to win, so they didn't check earlier.)
Anyway, this is F&F's first foray into the entertainment industry, and with foreign talents at that.
“Unfortunately, we must inform you that the “UNIVERSE TICKET Tour in Seoul” concert is cancelled due to E-6 visa transfers for foreign performers and academic issues.”
In fairness to F&F, this is their first time in the entertainment industry, so that's fine.
https://www.soompi.com/article/1637112wpp/sbss-girl-group-survival-show-universe-ticket-cancels-seoul-concert
A: No.
I've been there. The girl was actually making for me to make a move, she was literally ignoroeg the other guy. What would've happened if I "waited in line" when the guy won't even stop?
As is always said, "May the best man win". :)
Q: If you love someone dearly, would you still him/her?
A: Yes.
Someone did that to me. I've experienced it first hand.
Out of stupid "revenge", I myself stole someone else's girlfriend years later.
99% I won't do it again, not because of some "bro code", rather, because I know what kind of relationship comes out of it. Which the idiot me already knew in the first place, but I still did it because my ex was stolen, I want someone else to experience it too. Which again was stupid.
As long as there are no legal and religious issues, All is fair in love and war.
Don't let stigma control your life. I am autistic. For years, I chose to "hide" because of stigma.
When EAW premiered, I told myself, "enough is enough, I will fight against discrimination, prejudice, and stigma".
The "bro code" is simply the gentler label for social stigma. Stigma that, like it or not, what people like to whisper behind people's back.
I say, let them talk! If that's their happiness, then I contributed to their happiness.
Again, no legal and religious issues, then "All is fair in love and war" and "May the best man win".
^_^
If you love the ex of your ex, go for it. Don't let other people dictate who you can love or not love. As long as you are not violating your country's laws (or religious beliefs) on relationship (cousins for example), love each other!
You're asking me if I would do that? Yes. If I'm interested, it's a resounding yes.
Again, the axiom: All is fair in love and war.
However, "bro code" in love and war? No. "All is fair in love and war" is an axiom that stands the test of time.
:)
If you agree to it, then you know there is no such thing as a "bro code" in love and war, because all is fair.
So, yeah, in a way, Yong-pil is relatable. Different circumstances, but similar in many ways.
Rather, it was to how the character of the father is being hated, some even claiming that no such person exist in real life, or how unrealistic that character is. Which is actually an insult to the people who lived with such a person.
How it was written, or executed, is not my point/concern in my post. ^_^
She too has a story behind her. However, the difference with Yong-Pil's father is that she commited crimes: fraud, theft, libel, slander, defamation.
While we can understand why she is the way she is, crimes have to be paid. Either in prison, or a psych hospital. And so far, there is no doubt sothe "beach" did those things with full control of herself. In other words, she's doing these things willfully and intentionally, without remorse at that.
Sad it may be, but people like that have to be isolated from society.
There are people who put up walls around themselves so they won't get hurt than they already are. Deep pain is serious. It pierces into your soul, to the point that you no longer know you're hurting everyone around you as well as yourself.
It's okay if you don't understand. I understood the father because I grew up with a parent who also have a deep pain, a deep resentment, he cannot let go. I've seen with my own eyes what it is like.
I myself hated. I myself got angry. But in the end, what my grandmother said when I was kid, trumped. Why? Because what she told me was right. She had an insight that I never would have, she was after my parent's mother.
It's the same here, with the father, and every single out there with deep pain and deep resentment. Don't hate them. It is hard. It is painful. It makes you angry. But don't hate them.
These people going through this? Deep inside they also hate the fact they're causing pain to others, especially to the people they love. But they can't let go. They are too afraid. They created a world of their own. They are afraid to face their fears and the reality.
If you haven't experienced living with such a person, be very thankful you don't have to go through what I, and many others, have and are going through. It is never easy.
Some will say, "live them alone!" Can you truly do that as a family member? As a human being?
I'm not saying your solution is wrong. No. I 100% agree with you. You have no idea how many times I thought and did exactly that, myself. But I just can't take it to see this parent to be hurting even more.
Mind you. I am autistic. "Experts" say autistics are emotionless, and incapable of empathy and compassion. (Which I disagree.) How more non-autistics? Can you do that? Just leave them despite fully knowing why they are the way they are?
Or, maybe, it is because I am autistic hence I can't do it. Because for us autistics, everything is either hypo or hyper.
It's easy to angry, hate, resent, be it in real life or against a fictional character. But it is never easy to understand, to be patient, to sacrifice, to live, and to love.
My reason is the BGM. It was uplifting. It was "justice". Justice for what what she had to endure from her childhood, husband, and the crimes around her.
The BGM gave me the feeling that all she had to go through, and her strength and belief she won't get Remington's disease, were "finally paid off".