There isn't information about Min-ju, it's so hard to empathise with her when she took back control of her body…
From a very shy, timid, pathetic girl, she turned into a total bitch.
Like, what exactly happened to her while growing up? From one extreme to another. Her infatuation to ML is not enough to be the trigger. Seeing what her life would have been if she wasn't pathetic is also not enough as a trigger.
At this point, it appears she has a certain psychological issue, but I can't pinpoint it. It's like she's psychotic deep inside.
If there was no need to change the past, it's better she stays 6 feet under.
Ahh, really? I guess her mother was already pure Filipino, even though they were still carrying the “Natsumi” family name. Unless they're saying Aya's full “given name” is actually three parts: “Van Aya Natsumi”.
For example: Given name is a.k.a. first name(s) Middle name is mother's maiden surname Family name is father's surname
So, in Aya Natsumi's case, it is either:
1. Her mother's pure Filipino already, even though she was still carrying the “Natsumi” family name. Or, her mother was still 1% (or something) Japanese, but her children are already pure Filipino.
Given name: Van Aya Middle name: Natsumi Family name: Bolinao Stage name: Aya Natsumi
Or,
2. It's actually like this:
Given name: Van Aya Natsumi Middle name: unknown Family name: Bolinao Stage name: Aya Natsumi
It is not uncommon for parents to pick a foreign name for their children here in the Philippines. Although having three given names is rare, usually it's only two.
In any case, they have to clarify this, as various sites wrote that Aya is half-Filipino and half-Japanese.
I have started this, but i am not sure where they are gonna go with this?up till the part where they both had…
(Note, I haven't read the source material. Remember, this is an adaptation.)
Since they did not do the deed, they never “cheated”.
In the ML's case, the scene where he was in the bathroom slapping himself, is the writer and director showing that the ML is trying to get his wits under control. The temptation is there, but he also knew he shouldn't do it. HOWEVER, the alcohol is winning.
So, he hid inside the bathroom and woke himself up.
In the FL's case, the scene where she told the as*hole to remove his arm around her, and then she left fast leaving him behind, after hearing her BF making a scene, was the wake-up call for her.
The FL got into shock mode after she saw her BF in the elevator. She was already losing her wits because of the alcohol, her liberated friend, and the pain she is feeling. And then, boom, her BF is at the elevator.
She was probably thinking of the following at that moment: 1. Did he cheat on me? 2. How long has he been doing this? 3. Is this why he had changed? 4. Was he only using H2 as an excuse but in reality he's someone or sleeping with whoever? 5. Wait! What would he think about me! He saw me in a motel, with a guy! SH*T F*CK 6. And who knows what else…
At that moment, she's in shock mode. The as*hole guy putting his arm around her, touching her at her back, those were no longer registering in her brain because of all the thoughts going through in her mind.
Then her BF made a scene, and she was jolted back into reality.
“Remove your arm around me.” And she walked fast and left him there.
That scene, that's the writer and director explaining to the audience that situation of the FL.
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Personally, I still have doubts if the FL cheated or not. We don't know how long they've been in the motel room, remember there was also a scene wherein the FL was talking to her liberated friend outside their motel room. That appears to me, they arrived there before her BF dropped the drunk girl.
Now the endgame.
I. The FL 1. If the FL did cheat, let's say, they had a long torrid kissing. But she pushed Mr. Are-You-Sleeping after she felt him pulling her dress.
If that's the route they'll take, it will be a story of how they attempt to reconcile and yet there are stumbling blocks before them.
2. If the FL did not cheat.
If this is the route they'll take, then it will be a story focusing on how they are both in the right and in the wrong. That the reason their relationship failed was because of them both, contrary to what other people are assuming as the “ML's fault” versus the “FL's fault”.
It is going to be a guilt-trip and a deep and hurtful lesson to all people who were once in a serious relationship and ended up not admitting they were also in the wrong why it failed (we're talking about “normal” relationships here, not relationships where one partner is abusing the other).
Then they'll probably touch on if there is a chance for them to get back together and how that will look like.
In real-life, there is a chance for them to get back together, and it will work only if they have a cool-off period or a full-on breakup.
Trying to patch up their current relationship without a cool-off period or breakup will give them less than, say, 30% (generous estimation) chance of making it work.
So, they'll probably touch on that.
Or, they'll go the painful route. They'll never get back together again. Or, they did get back together again but still broke up later, yet they remained good friends in the end.
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NOW.
What if both of them actually cheated. I mean, they did the deed. Not just kissing. Sex.
Can they get still get back together? Yes. Again, same as above, not by patching it up, they need a cool-off period or a full-on breakup. That's the only way they can get back together and make it work. Otherwise, patching will only hurt them more and might turn them into bitter enemies.
It was not so much as “hey, we both cheated, we're even”, not at all. Rather, if they enter a cool-off period or breakup, they'll have an experience and memory they'll always bring with them.
They can learn different things from that.
Some people learn this, and I quote, “I chose him/her again because we already know what each other is capable of”.
Most people assume immediately to find a “better person”, and often than not, that “better person” is either the same or worse. Thus, there are people who decide to go back with their previous relationship because they already know each other well.
And that actually works for many, believe it or not. Until such a time, they start to encounter a new issue they haven't encountered before.
That's one route they can take for this story.
If the ML is the only who cheated, even though they are both in the right and the in the wrong regarding their relationship, unfortunately in that scenario, the stacks are against the ML regardless if he's drunk.
The stack against him is bigger in this case because he hid in the bathroom and slapped himself. So, if he did cheat, that scene will mean that he cheated with his wits on him, without the influence of alcohol.
That's going to be very bad for him in this situation. Even me, as much as I see them both in the right and in the wrong for their failing relationship, that scene (slapping himself in the bathroom) changes everything. Because that scene means he was waking himself up to fight the alcohol.
As far as I'm concerned, if you made a decision without the influence of alcohol and not being under duress, then you made a sane and independent decision. Meaning, you chose it. Thus, you take responsibility for it.
If I were a judge and I only care about which one weighs heavier, I would say, "I would have judged you both as guilty and not-guilty but since you had your wits back and you still did the deed, you're the only guitly party here". :P
the ML bringing the drunk girl to the motel is cheating .... FL going to motel is also cheating .... she drinking…
> the ML bringing the drunk girl to the motel is cheating ....
No.
> FL going to motel is also cheating ....
No.
> she drinking with another guy is already cheating
Hell, no.
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If they didn't do it, they didn't do it, period. No cheating happened.
--- Yes, the ML should've brought the drunk girl to the nearest police station, or called a cab and let the driver bring her home or brought to a police station.
Yes, the ML was tempted.
However, in his defence, he's drunk too and wasn't thinking clearly. He probably would've done the police option if he himself was not drunk. As evidenced by the scene when he slapped himself awake inside the restroom.
If that scene meant nothing, an experienced writer and director won't even include it. However, they did. Which simply meant that they want you, the audience, to understand that the ML was not thinking properly and is barely holding his wits together. ---
--- The same with the FL. She's drunk and hurting, and she's being influenced by her liberated friend instead of listening to her traditional friend.
Similar to the ML, the FL eventually got control of her wits and left, while the as*hole Mr. Are-You-Sleeping followed her and draped his arms around her (well, that's what as*holes do).
As for her not removing that as*holes arm around her after seeing her boyfriend, that was her being shocked.
Did you watch the scene wherein her shock disappeared after hearing her boyfriend making a scene? She immediately realised the as*hole's arm was around her and told him to remove it and left by herself fast.
Again, an experienced writer and director wouldn't include that scene if it meant nothing. They want you, the audience, to understand that the FL is in shock mode. ---
And obviously, both of them never wanted any of that stuff to happen. Suddenly, they had a wake-up call.
“What happened to us?” “How did we get here?”
They want to be together, they love each other. Unfortunately, they've already hurt each other. Not because of the motel incident, rather, the words they threw at each other and the way they acted.
We can even assume that they both probably went to the motel in the hopes that some rumour will start, so they can hurt each other. But had no plan whatsoever to sleep with anyone. It was simply to start a rumour. (And a stupid plan at that.)
Ironically for them, their stupid plan jumped leaps to Level 99999 when they saw each other at the same motel. What they were probably hoping to only start a rumour turned into major hurt and uncertainty. (Lesson here: don't do stupid plans.)
The writer and director included scenes to explain the situation of both the ML and the FL. They were both battling control of their minds because of the influence of alcohol and bad-influence friends. Yet, in the end, they won and did not do the deed, thus they never cheated (the FL is still in question though, but let's assume she did not for now).
Every scene is important. You have to watch it in full, otherwise, you will jump to conclusions that are not there in the first place.
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And, again, seriously? “Drinking with another guy is already cheating”?!
You're telling me that whenever me and my first ex-gf drink, and then go our separate ways after, we are both cheating? LMAO.
Can I ask if you were hurt by an as*hole before for you to have such a very dark view of two people drinking together?
It's fine to assume “bringing the drunk girl to the motel” and “going to motel” are both “cheating”, I can give you that. Socially speaking, that is a very common discrimination and assumption of most people. But two people drinking together = cheating, LOL, I definitely cannot give you that. It is absolutely absurd.
Sorry, not that one.
You know why? Because my ex-gf and I have met countless times together and not once did we cheat, or kissed, or had sex for good times sake, or whatever you are assuming. Not once.
We are both mature adults who know our boundaries and responsibilities. Oh, we do reminiscence our time together sometimes, for laughter and teasing, but that's about it.
In our line-of-work, it is unavoidable for us to meet. We didn't even have a talk about it, because we're two mature adults, we just know automatically what we should and should not do.
And there are a lot of people out there like us. Ex-es who are still close, meets together, but doesn't do stupid things like whatever you might be assuming. Are we “cheating” then? Oh, and we don't care what other people think, f*ck them for their discrimination and stupid assumptions. We don't let dumb social norms dictate and control us.
If you weren't hurt by someone before, hence, your very dark view of two people having a drink, then I guess you still need to grow up and mature.
I'm sorry, but that last statement of yours, I just can't let it go.
Q: Did FL sleep with Mr. Are-You-Sleeping? A: No idea. It's hard to guess.
Reason 1: The FL is so very affected, especially when she saw the Neverland tickets. It was like she did an unforgivable sin.
Reason 2: It could very well be she left the room before something happened because the guy was trying to get her back in the room so he can “score” (aside: as*hole). Like that scene wherein she was talking on the phone with her friend, the FL was already showing how uneasy she is with the situation.
If I was the writer, for the sake of drama and adding more true-to-life stories in it, I will make it this way:
Option A: The FL did sleep with Mr. Are-You-Sleeping. However, after the first round, she called it quits. And this is why she was so affected… see “Reason 1” above.
Option B: The FL will lie and say something happened. For two possible reasons: (1) see his reaction if he will call it quits; or (2) she realised they need a cool-off period.
Option C: The FL will say that nothing really happened between them, either. However, it's better that they have a cool-off so they can think better.
All three options above, I've heard it from friends. So, I know those options were actually used by three women at least once.
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Regardless. As far E01 and E02 are concerned, this couple needs to cool-off so they can think for themselves. They hurt each other deeply because they stopped communicating and they stopped meeting eye-to-eye.
Their relationship has turned into, let's call it for what it is: sex buddies. A romantic relationship that turned into a sex buddies is doomed to fail. However, sex buddies that turned into a romantic relationship has a higher chance of ending in a very good married couple.
The thing here is this: sex buddies turned into romantic couple, they learned the importance of communication early on. They learned to discuss things, no matter what it might be. They learned to respect each other and value each other's opinion, independence, and needs. And they also learned to listen, as well as, to agree on things unanimously.
The problem with romantic couple turned sex buddies, they haven't realised their relationship already “downgraded”. They haven't realised they are no longer a romantic couple. And they haven't realised they are already taking each other for granted. Thus, when sh*t hits the fan (I hope I used that correctly), massive hurt for both of them.
The relationship portrayed in this show, which is actually common (for those who are still young, yes, it is actually common [the situation, not the exact details]), there are no taking sides here. They both made mistakes. They both were in the right and in the wrong.
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To end: A romantic relationship is an equal partnership of two independent individuals. You agreed to be in such a relationship. As equals, you both are also equally liable to what happens to that “partnership”.
Think of it as the two of you being pillars, and your relationship is the roof. You are both working on holding it together. However, as one pillar gets weaker, the weight of that relationship will be transferred to that other pillar. Sooner or later, that other pillar will start to get weaker as well.
Eventually, both pillars will develop cracks. Since both pillars are not communicating properly, those cracks are a ticking time bomb. It will be just a matter of time until one pillar, or both, breaks and all hell will break loose, and the relationship they are holding comes crashing down on them.
Reaction re: fight after turning down the deal with Winders in S01E01
Scene: Fight after turning down the deal with Winders.
That fight was real, I mean, true-to-life. It happened and happens and will happen to many, if not all, couples sooner or later; and trust me, it is a very nasty and damaging lover's quarrel.
The thing with this type of lover's quarrel is that the cracks in your relationship finally broke. Imagine holding a mug with cracks in it. You were still able to use it for a couple of years, then one day after picking it up it just broke. Either you already know there are cracks in it, or not, just like how in a relationship, you either know there are already cracks or not.
This particular fight is nasty because you've crossed the point of no return. From hereon, it is going to spiral down to the drainage. Before, you still have hope. You do your best to keep the negatives to yourself and think that it was just you. After a fight like this, you stop doing that and instead start to say whatever it is you've holding down. It's a drum filled with water that blew up because it can no longer take any more of it (or the sh*t).
No matter how much you patch it.
It
only
leads
to
more
hurt
and
eventually
breakup.
For example. The FL accused the ML of being selfish and only thinking about himself. However, we all know that the reason the ML turned down the deal was because he thought of the FL. If the ML was being selfish as the FL accused him to be, the ML would've taken that deal, damn her jewelry.
Correct?
However, for those who haven't experienced this type of lover's quarrel, let me tell you this: they are both right, and they are both wrong, at the same time.
The ML is both selfish and not selfish. The ML is not selfish because he turned the deal realising that the FL's dream, “THEIR” dream, will be sacrificed.
However, the ML is also selfish because like it or not their future is indeed at stake. “THEIR” dream reached a dead-end, and that is putting their future in jeopardy. You cannot live for the rest of your life in dreams, emotions, and love.
This is what the FL realised earlier than the ML, and this is why the FL accused him of being selfish. She already gave up her jewellery designing dream because she wants them to have a better future with him. (And she's paying for their rent and bills, too.)
The problem here is that, once the FL learns the real reason why the ML turned down the deal, she will be hurt deeply. The second issue, they already dropped harsh words, thrown accusations, and so on. It will be very hard for the FL and the ML to reconcile at this point.
Why? For one, how can the FL apologise when she has a point? She can apologise for saying those harsh words and refusing to hear his reason. But the fact still remains that it is better for them for him to accept the deal.
Which she won't be able to tell him again next time because it will definitely appear to him that it is all his fault. Which will spiral into another fight.
Some couples can survive this first major fight, but they can never piece the broken pieces together again. The best way forward to go your separate ways, and maybe, you'll be together again and start something new.
Just like how you don't glue your broken mug and drink from it again (unless you want to risk drinking broken pieces). You throw it and buy a new one.
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BONUS
Q: Why didn't the ML just tell her the reason when they were fighting? A: Because he knew what will happen at that point. The FL will think, “So, it is my fault now?”
This is why the ML tried to end their quarrel because he recognised they're in a situation anything they say to each other can be turned negatively even if that was not their intention.
Q: Why didn't the ML tell it in the first place before their fight started? A: He wants to, but he is trying to find the right moment.
Why? Because he knew how she will react, and her getting angrier was exactly what he was trying to avoid. Remember, they already had a couple of “minor” quarrels before that night. The ML is aware they are currently sensitive about each other's decisions and actions.
Q: So, it is the FL's fault? A: No.
This whole problem in their relationship started far earlier than the current revelation in their relationship in S01E01. This sudden outburst is just them no longer have enough room for each other.
As they say, it is a ticking time bomb. That final fight in E01 was the bomb reaching :00.
Q: Whose fault is it, then? A: Both of them.
Q: Is that possible? A: Majority of fights and breakups in a romantic relationship is always the fault of both parties.
Their case is no different. At some point in their relationship, a single and small crack formed. EP01 started with their relationship having multiple cracks, and long ones at that, and just waiting to break apart.
I have seen a lot of complaints from the fans in Netflix K-contents's youtube channel on the poor promotion of…
Netflix is not a promotional company. They funded this project and thus they get exclusive rights to stream it outside of Korea.
Since they funded it, it is also their call how they want to market it.
Maybe, just maybe, they decided to not do any promotion because they believe in the cast's celebrity clout. If the cast is so big as fans are claiming, then it should attract audiences without them spending another cent for it.
Maybe that is their thinking. I don't know, I don't work for Netflix but that's how business people and investors actually think, as "foolish" as you might think it is. I, for one, am tired arguing with business people and investors who think that way. Been there, done that.
It just means that this was a secondary or tertiary drama for the season.When production companies have multiple…
No idea. There are a hundred reasons why.
We just have to accept it for what it is. Or start our own production company.
At the end of the day, business is business. Whatever plans they laid down and which shows get more marketing and promotions, it's their decision. They see something we do not see, especially in relation to their own company.
My only advise, don't think too much about it. That's just how the world works. ;)
That's pretty normal....Your brain has ability to unlock previous memories (with minor details too), when they're…
Yes. There are certain dates and certain places that I remember clearly. I can even remember my memories from 1 to 2 years old.
So, to answer your question, yes it is possible.
Remembering your 1 to 2 year old memories has been proven scientifically also. You can search for peer-reviewed papers about it yourself.
There are people who unknowingly trained their brain how to store and recall memories. I used to use the "palace memory" method myself. It's visual + triggers.
I can recall some of my passwords from 1996. If I focus on it, I remember a few more. If I spend time on it, I can recall even more.
My ex-gf and I usually play memory games for 15 years we've been together. She herself have good memory storage and recollectioe techniques she had no idea about (I had to explain it to her).
In addition to that, the more memorable something was, the more neurons your brain assigns to it. Neurons govern which memories are easily recollected and which ones are discarded. And if you know the techniques, it is also possible to delete memories at will, like you would in a computer.
So, for the purposes of the drama and your question, it is possible. The drama doesn't need to spend time explaining how memories work to support how she can remember things.
Again, you can do your own research about it. If you're serious, there are peer-reviewed papers that you can read about memories, a lot of it. You just have to pay for it, unfortunately. Try sciencedirect for example.
Na In Woo is perfectly cast as Ji Hyuk, especially the broad shoulders and the height (188.6cm!!!!). I do think…
The glasses actually fits the role and his face. Itakes him different, more mature, wiser, and older than the actor's actual age. Which is the image you want to convey in a professional environment.
When he removes it, he becomes just another cute guy. Which is not what you can to show in a professional environment especially if you are being groomed to take over your father's company.
Why there is no couple (main lead) photoshoot or any separate interview or any Netflix games content video???…
It just means that this was a secondary or tertiary drama for the season.
When production companies have multiple projects, they choose which ones are primary and secondary and tertiary. They give more focus on the primary, give more budget for it, even market it. Secondary it so-so, tertiary, totally ignored.
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"Let me out of here you pathetic loser! If you want to die, die by yourself you piece of shit!"
Sadly, I think Jun Hee is thinking she'll survive since ML simply returned to his original body after the plane crash.
The problem is, she's trapped inside Min-ju's brain. So, I think she'll die too instead of returning to her original body.
Like, what exactly happened to her while growing up? From one extreme to another. Her infatuation to ML is not enough to be the trigger. Seeing what her life would have been if she wasn't pathetic is also not enough as a trigger.
At this point, it appears she has a certain psychological issue, but I can't pinpoint it. It's like she's psychotic deep inside.
If there was no need to change the past, it's better she stays 6 feet under.
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For example:
Given name is a.k.a. first name(s)
Middle name is mother's maiden surname
Family name is father's surname
So, in Aya Natsumi's case, it is either:
1. Her mother's pure Filipino already, even though she was still carrying the “Natsumi” family name. Or, her mother was still 1% (or something) Japanese, but her children are already pure Filipino.
Given name: Van Aya
Middle name: Natsumi
Family name: Bolinao
Stage name: Aya Natsumi
Or,
2. It's actually like this:
Given name: Van Aya Natsumi
Middle name: unknown
Family name: Bolinao
Stage name: Aya Natsumi
It is not uncommon for parents to pick a foreign name for their children here in the Philippines. Although having three given names is rare, usually it's only two.
In any case, they have to clarify this, as various sites wrote that Aya is half-Filipino and half-Japanese.
You youngsters should watch that after watching this.
Since they did not do the deed, they never “cheated”.
In the ML's case, the scene where he was in the bathroom slapping himself, is the writer and director showing that the ML is trying to get his wits under control. The temptation is there, but he also knew he shouldn't do it. HOWEVER, the alcohol is winning.
So, he hid inside the bathroom and woke himself up.
In the FL's case, the scene where she told the as*hole to remove his arm around her, and then she left fast leaving him behind, after hearing her BF making a scene, was the wake-up call for her.
The FL got into shock mode after she saw her BF in the elevator. She was already losing her wits because of the alcohol, her liberated friend, and the pain she is feeling. And then, boom, her BF is at the elevator.
She was probably thinking of the following at that moment:
1. Did he cheat on me?
2. How long has he been doing this?
3. Is this why he had changed?
4. Was he only using H2 as an excuse but in reality he's someone or sleeping with whoever?
5. Wait! What would he think about me! He saw me in a motel, with a guy! SH*T F*CK
6. And who knows what else…
At that moment, she's in shock mode. The as*hole guy putting his arm around her, touching her at her back, those were no longer registering in her brain because of all the thoughts going through in her mind.
Then her BF made a scene, and she was jolted back into reality.
“Remove your arm around me.” And she walked fast and left him there.
That scene, that's the writer and director explaining to the audience that situation of the FL.
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Personally, I still have doubts if the FL cheated or not. We don't know how long they've been in the motel room, remember there was also a scene wherein the FL was talking to her liberated friend outside their motel room. That appears to me, they arrived there before her BF dropped the drunk girl.
Now the endgame.
I. The FL
1. If the FL did cheat, let's say, they had a long torrid kissing. But she pushed Mr. Are-You-Sleeping after she felt him pulling her dress.
If that's the route they'll take, it will be a story of how they attempt to reconcile and yet there are stumbling blocks before them.
2. If the FL did not cheat.
If this is the route they'll take, then it will be a story focusing on how they are both in the right and in the wrong. That the reason their relationship failed was because of them both, contrary to what other people are assuming as the “ML's fault” versus the “FL's fault”.
It is going to be a guilt-trip and a deep and hurtful lesson to all people who were once in a serious relationship and ended up not admitting they were also in the wrong why it failed (we're talking about “normal” relationships here, not relationships where one partner is abusing the other).
Then they'll probably touch on if there is a chance for them to get back together and how that will look like.
In real-life, there is a chance for them to get back together, and it will work only if they have a cool-off period or a full-on breakup.
Trying to patch up their current relationship without a cool-off period or breakup will give them less than, say, 30% (generous estimation) chance of making it work.
So, they'll probably touch on that.
Or, they'll go the painful route. They'll never get back together again. Or, they did get back together again but still broke up later, yet they remained good friends in the end.
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NOW.
What if both of them actually cheated. I mean, they did the deed. Not just kissing. Sex.
Can they get still get back together? Yes. Again, same as above, not by patching it up, they need a cool-off period or a full-on breakup. That's the only way they can get back together and make it work. Otherwise, patching will only hurt them more and might turn them into bitter enemies.
It was not so much as “hey, we both cheated, we're even”, not at all. Rather, if they enter a cool-off period or breakup, they'll have an experience and memory they'll always bring with them.
They can learn different things from that.
Some people learn this, and I quote, “I chose him/her again because we already know what each other is capable of”.
Most people assume immediately to find a “better person”, and often than not, that “better person” is either the same or worse. Thus, there are people who decide to go back with their previous relationship because they already know each other well.
And that actually works for many, believe it or not. Until such a time, they start to encounter a new issue they haven't encountered before.
That's one route they can take for this story.
If the ML is the only who cheated, even though they are both in the right and the in the wrong regarding their relationship, unfortunately in that scenario, the stacks are against the ML regardless if he's drunk.
The stack against him is bigger in this case because he hid in the bathroom and slapped himself. So, if he did cheat, that scene will mean that he cheated with his wits on him, without the influence of alcohol.
That's going to be very bad for him in this situation. Even me, as much as I see them both in the right and in the wrong for their failing relationship, that scene (slapping himself in the bathroom) changes everything. Because that scene means he was waking himself up to fight the alcohol.
As far as I'm concerned, if you made a decision without the influence of alcohol and not being under duress, then you made a sane and independent decision. Meaning, you chose it. Thus, you take responsibility for it.
If I were a judge and I only care about which one weighs heavier, I would say, "I would have judged you both as guilty and not-guilty but since you had your wits back and you still did the deed, you're the only guitly party here". :P
No.
> FL going to motel is also cheating ....
No.
> she drinking with another guy is already cheating
Hell, no.
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If they didn't do it, they didn't do it, period. No cheating happened.
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Yes, the ML should've brought the drunk girl to the nearest police station, or called a cab and let the driver bring her home or brought to a police station.
Yes, the ML was tempted.
However, in his defence, he's drunk too and wasn't thinking clearly. He probably would've done the police option if he himself was not drunk. As evidenced by the scene when he slapped himself awake inside the restroom.
If that scene meant nothing, an experienced writer and director won't even include it. However, they did. Which simply meant that they want you, the audience, to understand that the ML was not thinking properly and is barely holding his wits together.
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The same with the FL. She's drunk and hurting, and she's being influenced by her liberated friend instead of listening to her traditional friend.
Similar to the ML, the FL eventually got control of her wits and left, while the as*hole Mr. Are-You-Sleeping followed her and draped his arms around her (well, that's what as*holes do).
As for her not removing that as*holes arm around her after seeing her boyfriend, that was her being shocked.
Did you watch the scene wherein her shock disappeared after hearing her boyfriend making a scene? She immediately realised the as*hole's arm was around her and told him to remove it and left by herself fast.
Again, an experienced writer and director wouldn't include that scene if it meant nothing. They want you, the audience, to understand that the FL is in shock mode.
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And obviously, both of them never wanted any of that stuff to happen. Suddenly, they had a wake-up call.
“What happened to us?”
“How did we get here?”
They want to be together, they love each other. Unfortunately, they've already hurt each other. Not because of the motel incident, rather, the words they threw at each other and the way they acted.
We can even assume that they both probably went to the motel in the hopes that some rumour will start, so they can hurt each other. But had no plan whatsoever to sleep with anyone. It was simply to start a rumour. (And a stupid plan at that.)
Ironically for them, their stupid plan jumped leaps to Level 99999 when they saw each other at the same motel. What they were probably hoping to only start a rumour turned into major hurt and uncertainty. (Lesson here: don't do stupid plans.)
The writer and director included scenes to explain the situation of both the ML and the FL. They were both battling control of their minds because of the influence of alcohol and bad-influence friends. Yet, in the end, they won and did not do the deed, thus they never cheated (the FL is still in question though, but let's assume she did not for now).
Every scene is important. You have to watch it in full, otherwise, you will jump to conclusions that are not there in the first place.
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And, again, seriously? “Drinking with another guy is already cheating”?!
You're telling me that whenever me and my first ex-gf drink, and then go our separate ways after, we are both cheating? LMAO.
Can I ask if you were hurt by an as*hole before for you to have such a very dark view of two people drinking together?
It's fine to assume “bringing the drunk girl to the motel” and “going to motel” are both “cheating”, I can give you that. Socially speaking, that is a very common discrimination and assumption of most people. But two people drinking together = cheating, LOL, I definitely cannot give you that. It is absolutely absurd.
Sorry, not that one.
You know why? Because my ex-gf and I have met countless times together and not once did we cheat, or kissed, or had sex for good times sake, or whatever you are assuming. Not once.
We are both mature adults who know our boundaries and responsibilities. Oh, we do reminiscence our time together sometimes, for laughter and teasing, but that's about it.
In our line-of-work, it is unavoidable for us to meet. We didn't even have a talk about it, because we're two mature adults, we just know automatically what we should and should not do.
And there are a lot of people out there like us. Ex-es who are still close, meets together, but doesn't do stupid things like whatever you might be assuming. Are we “cheating” then? Oh, and we don't care what other people think, f*ck them for their discrimination and stupid assumptions. We don't let dumb social norms dictate and control us.
If you weren't hurt by someone before, hence, your very dark view of two people having a drink, then I guess you still need to grow up and mature.
I'm sorry, but that last statement of yours, I just can't let it go.
Q: Did FL sleep with Mr. Are-You-Sleeping?
A: No idea. It's hard to guess.
Reason 1: The FL is so very affected, especially when she saw the Neverland tickets. It was like she did an unforgivable sin.
Reason 2: It could very well be she left the room before something happened because the guy was trying to get her back in the room so he can “score” (aside: as*hole). Like that scene wherein she was talking on the phone with her friend, the FL was already showing how uneasy she is with the situation.
If I was the writer, for the sake of drama and adding more true-to-life stories in it, I will make it this way:
Option A: The FL did sleep with Mr. Are-You-Sleeping. However, after the first round, she called it quits. And this is why she was so affected… see “Reason 1” above.
Option B: The FL will lie and say something happened. For two possible reasons: (1) see his reaction if he will call it quits; or (2) she realised they need a cool-off period.
Option C: The FL will say that nothing really happened between them, either. However, it's better that they have a cool-off so they can think better.
All three options above, I've heard it from friends. So, I know those options were actually used by three women at least once.
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Regardless. As far E01 and E02 are concerned, this couple needs to cool-off so they can think for themselves. They hurt each other deeply because they stopped communicating and they stopped meeting eye-to-eye.
Their relationship has turned into, let's call it for what it is: sex buddies. A romantic relationship that turned into a sex buddies is doomed to fail. However, sex buddies that turned into a romantic relationship has a higher chance of ending in a very good married couple.
The thing here is this: sex buddies turned into romantic couple, they learned the importance of communication early on. They learned to discuss things, no matter what it might be. They learned to respect each other and value each other's opinion, independence, and needs. And they also learned to listen, as well as, to agree on things unanimously.
The problem with romantic couple turned sex buddies, they haven't realised their relationship already “downgraded”. They haven't realised they are no longer a romantic couple. And they haven't realised they are already taking each other for granted. Thus, when sh*t hits the fan (I hope I used that correctly), massive hurt for both of them.
The relationship portrayed in this show, which is actually common (for those who are still young, yes, it is actually common [the situation, not the exact details]), there are no taking sides here. They both made mistakes. They both were in the right and in the wrong.
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To end: A romantic relationship is an equal partnership of two independent individuals. You agreed to be in such a relationship. As equals, you both are also equally liable to what happens to that “partnership”.
Think of it as the two of you being pillars, and your relationship is the roof. You are both working on holding it together. However, as one pillar gets weaker, the weight of that relationship will be transferred to that other pillar. Sooner or later, that other pillar will start to get weaker as well.
Eventually, both pillars will develop cracks. Since both pillars are not communicating properly, those cracks are a ticking time bomb. It will be just a matter of time until one pillar, or both, breaks and all hell will break loose, and the relationship they are holding comes crashing down on them.
That fight was real, I mean, true-to-life. It happened and happens and will happen to many, if not all, couples sooner or later; and trust me, it is a very nasty and damaging lover's quarrel.
The thing with this type of lover's quarrel is that the cracks in your relationship finally broke. Imagine holding a mug with cracks in it. You were still able to use it for a couple of years, then one day after picking it up it just broke. Either you already know there are cracks in it, or not, just like how in a relationship, you either know there are already cracks or not.
This particular fight is nasty because you've crossed the point of no return. From hereon, it is going to spiral down to the drainage. Before, you still have hope. You do your best to keep the negatives to yourself and think that it was just you. After a fight like this, you stop doing that and instead start to say whatever it is you've holding down. It's a drum filled with water that blew up because it can no longer take any more of it (or the sh*t).
No matter how much you patch it.
It
only
leads
to
more
hurt
and
eventually
breakup.
For example. The FL accused the ML of being selfish and only thinking about himself. However, we all know that the reason the ML turned down the deal was because he thought of the FL. If the ML was being selfish as the FL accused him to be, the ML would've taken that deal, damn her jewelry.
Correct?
However, for those who haven't experienced this type of lover's quarrel, let me tell you this: they are both right, and they are both wrong, at the same time.
The ML is both selfish and not selfish. The ML is not selfish because he turned the deal realising that the FL's dream, “THEIR” dream, will be sacrificed.
However, the ML is also selfish because like it or not their future is indeed at stake. “THEIR” dream reached a dead-end, and that is putting their future in jeopardy. You cannot live for the rest of your life in dreams, emotions, and love.
This is what the FL realised earlier than the ML, and this is why the FL accused him of being selfish. She already gave up her jewellery designing dream because she wants them to have a better future with him. (And she's paying for their rent and bills, too.)
The problem here is that, once the FL learns the real reason why the ML turned down the deal, she will be hurt deeply. The second issue, they already dropped harsh words, thrown accusations, and so on. It will be very hard for the FL and the ML to reconcile at this point.
Why? For one, how can the FL apologise when she has a point? She can apologise for saying those harsh words and refusing to hear his reason. But the fact still remains that it is better for them for him to accept the deal.
Which she won't be able to tell him again next time because it will definitely appear to him that it is all his fault. Which will spiral into another fight.
Some couples can survive this first major fight, but they can never piece the broken pieces together again. The best way forward to go your separate ways, and maybe, you'll be together again and start something new.
Just like how you don't glue your broken mug and drink from it again (unless you want to risk drinking broken pieces). You throw it and buy a new one.
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BONUS
Q: Why didn't the ML just tell her the reason when they were fighting?
A: Because he knew what will happen at that point. The FL will think, “So, it is my fault now?”
This is why the ML tried to end their quarrel because he recognised they're in a situation anything they say to each other can be turned negatively even if that was not their intention.
Q: Why didn't the ML tell it in the first place before their fight started?
A: He wants to, but he is trying to find the right moment.
Why? Because he knew how she will react, and her getting angrier was exactly what he was trying to avoid. Remember, they already had a couple of “minor” quarrels before that night. The ML is aware they are currently sensitive about each other's decisions and actions.
Q: So, it is the FL's fault?
A: No.
This whole problem in their relationship started far earlier than the current revelation in their relationship in S01E01. This sudden outburst is just them no longer have enough room for each other.
As they say, it is a ticking time bomb. That final fight in E01 was the bomb reaching :00.
Q: Whose fault is it, then?
A: Both of them.
Q: Is that possible?
A: Majority of fights and breakups in a romantic relationship is always the fault of both parties.
Their case is no different. At some point in their relationship, a single and small crack formed. EP01 started with their relationship having multiple cracks, and long ones at that, and just waiting to break apart.
Since they funded it, it is also their call how they want to market it.
Maybe, just maybe, they decided to not do any promotion because they believe in the cast's celebrity clout. If the cast is so big as fans are claiming, then it should attract audiences without them spending another cent for it.
Maybe that is their thinking. I don't know, I don't work for Netflix but that's how business people and investors actually think, as "foolish" as you might think it is. I, for one, am tired arguing with business people and investors who think that way. Been there, done that.
We just have to accept it for what it is. Or start our own production company.
At the end of the day, business is business. Whatever plans they laid down and which shows get more marketing and promotions, it's their decision. They see something we do not see, especially in relation to their own company.
My only advise, don't think too much about it. That's just how the world works. ;)
So, to answer your question, yes it is possible.
Remembering your 1 to 2 year old memories has been proven scientifically also. You can search for peer-reviewed papers about it yourself.
There are people who unknowingly trained their brain how to store and recall memories. I used to use the "palace memory" method myself. It's visual + triggers.
I can recall some of my passwords from 1996. If I focus on it, I remember a few more. If I spend time on it, I can recall even more.
My ex-gf and I usually play memory games for 15 years we've been together. She herself have good memory storage and recollectioe techniques she had no idea about (I had to explain it to her).
In addition to that, the more memorable something was, the more neurons your brain assigns to it. Neurons govern which memories are easily recollected and which ones are discarded. And if you know the techniques, it is also possible to delete memories at will, like you would in a computer.
So, for the purposes of the drama and your question, it is possible. The drama doesn't need to spend time explaining how memories work to support how she can remember things.
Again, you can do your own research about it. If you're serious, there are peer-reviewed papers that you can read about memories, a lot of it. You just have to pay for it, unfortunately. Try sciencedirect for example.
When he removes it, he becomes just another cute guy. Which is not what you can to show in a professional environment especially if you are being groomed to take over your father's company.
When production companies have multiple projects, they choose which ones are primary and secondary and tertiary. They give more focus on the primary, give more budget for it, even market it. Secondary it so-so, tertiary, totally ignored.