What do you mean? I'm confused.What does not being able to read expressions and express it yourself, has to do…
> She can't convey her feelings. She knows she have to express what she is supposed to, like gratitude or happiness about the new clothes (which her father removed all traces of tags) but she doesn't which one is happiness. Hence the chart with her father facial expressions top convey on.
That's a better wording and more understandable.
I think I explained that in my Episode 1 feedback (or maybe I removed it for later; I am waiting for them to show something related it to it).
In any case, you are correct in your understanding as to why there is a chart.
So, let's go back to your original post now that I understand what you are trying to convey:
> makes me wonder if it's not a blessing in disguise she can't convey her feeling about her mother's abandonemnt.
That depends. As an autistic who can only identify and do smiling and laughing, it is not a blessing in disguise. I don't know how to look sad (I can't even move my lips to look like the sad mask), to look angry, to look annoyed, or any other facial expressions.
When my mind is actually blank, people assume I have a problem, they ask why I am sad, what's wrong, blah blah blah, when I just want to be alone and have my precious "blank" moments which I rarely get. It's rest time. It's recharge time. I have no idea I look "sad" or anything, and neurotypical people will keep pestering me what my problem is, that I should open up.
When I'm angry, people think I am joking because I don't look angry, and they won't take me seriously.
So … it depends. For me, as an autistic, it is not a blessing in disguise.
Then we have to consider the other side of the coin: being able to identify other people's facial expressions. Since I only understand smiling and laughing, you have to literally tell me what's going on. And as an autistic man who dated neurotypical women, well, I'm sure you can imagine the challenge on both sides. Men find it hard to understand women already, then you add me who can't identify facial expressions.
If I keep on talking, I wouldn't know if the other party is bored, annoyed, not interested. To neurotypicals, it's natural. Since neurotypicals won't say it, I'm just the one asking "you're bored?" Or, I say, "I'm talking too much."
So … it depends. For me, it is not a blessing in disguise. I very much want identifying and doing facial expressions to be natural for me as it is natural for neurotypicals.
What do you mean? I'm confused.What does not being able to read expressions and express it yourself, has to do…
Okay … but again what do you mean by your original post?
I'll quote it here:
> but in fact the way she can't express her feelings and checks a chart his father made for her to show facial expressions, makes me wonder if it's not a blessing in disguise she can't convey her feeling about her mother's abandonemnt.
I can't see a connection.
I read your reply, word by word but you only described autism, it still escapes me what it has to do with Young Woo being abandoned by her mother and why it may be a blessing in disguise.
Sorry, I'm trying to make sense of it. Maybe I can explain if I see the connection … or maybe not.
While I understand why she acted that way, I think autistic women are best to answer that one. ^_^
Yes, I know what you are referring to. However, autistic girls rarely act similarly as autistic boys, and since I'm a guy, I am in no position to explain why the young version of Young Woo acted that way.
Also, you're thinking linearly or in a two-dimensional way: the young and the old should be doing similar things regardless. It's not always the case with autism. Autism is not a two-dimensional spectrum, it is four-dimensional.
Each trait and quirk can change overtime. An autistic may be this as a kid but different as an adult. Or, as a kid it's less observable but as an adult their traits and quirks are more profound.
I live in Germany and there arent any jurors part of our jurisdication at all, like most havent even ever heard…
Well, I can't speak as to why you haven't heard of it. ^^ There are groups pushing for it, IIRC it started back in 2012. A slow process because there are also groups opposing it but it's gaining momentum and getting stronger and allies.
I think Asperger's can't lie ,, she lied the previews episode
As an autistic, it is a misconception that autistics can not lie. We hate lies but it does not mean we are not capable of lying. Two different things.
We avoid lying at all costs because we hate it. But it does not mean we can not lie.
Our number one lie is masking. We are not only lying to you, neurotypicals, for hiding who we are, but we are also lying to ourselves for pretending to be who we are not.
That judge from the get go was all kinds of bias ,, talking about people's origin really ?how a place I was born…
It does look like "bad" because it will lead to preferential treatment. But at the same time, that scene was used to exemplify the fact that there are judges to do play fair even if they found some connections with the lawyers.
If you missed it: Point 1: He was not happy the Young Woo team visited him. That was a bad call on their part. He already found a way to "save" the defector and the Woo Young Woo is going to mess things up if it leaks they visited him.
Point 2: In his verdict, he used the very thing the Woo Young Woo team missed, the defector's honesty. -- I was also gunning for that, and I can't believe the Woo Young Woo team missed that.
I can't remember if it was in EAW, some other legal drama, or a real legal show, or from a lawyer talk I attended to in the past, but court proceedings do consider the intention and honesty of the defendant.
This is what the judge showed. He already found a way from the beginning how he can get the defector a reduced sentence, and in the last hearing, he even checked if she is worth it when he cornered the defendant.
If the defendant followed the Young Woo team for her to "lie" or to use her right not to answer, the judge would more likely go for a minimum sentence.
But because the defendant was honest, she even admitted she doesn't know anything about NoKor laws, that gave the judge the understanding that the defendant is a genuine person who doesn't deserve anything more than 4 years.
The Young Woo team almost messed everything there. And as the episode showed, the team admitted they missed the most crucial point, her confession, her honesty. That is what the judge saw from the beginning and he already have a plan.
So, the show portrayed that not all judges can be influenced by connections. They may acknowledge connections but it doesn't mean they will be compromised because of it.
Yes, it's highly unusual to talk about connections in preliminaries but the show just want to use that scene to hint or give more deeper meaning to the judge's verdict. Remember, it's fiction, you can change "what happens before" so the result or message you want to express gets a deeper meaning or more impact.
Think of it this way, they already have a verdict. The first draft of the script probably did not include the "hey let's check our connections". But the verdict is too shallow. It is there but if they add the "check our connections" scene, it gives more depth to the verdict, the defector's honesty, and the judge's character.
Max Planck Society - Empathy in Adults with Autism Spectrum ConditionsCompassion and sympathy are just as pronounced…
Correct. Those saying we don't have empathy, sympathy, or any other emotions for that matter, got it from old descriptions of autism from previous psychologists, previous psychiatrists, and old studies.
We have gone far beyond those old views. It is time to update ourselves, and hey, we autistics are the ones telling you that we have emotions, we have empathy, we have sympathy.
Before I start watching this, is the portrayal of autism good and accurate?
I'm autistic, and I say 'yes' it is good and accurate. Or to be more exact, "properly portrayed".
The character Woo Young Woo is representing autistics and autism in a general sense thrust into a world made for neurotypicals. It discusses what autistics go through while navigating the often draining world of neurotypicals. It exposes on the discrimination, prejudices, and stigma. While at the same time, also teaching how to approach and communicate with autistics; as well as, what is autism and what makes an autistic.
Does it give justice to autistics and autism? Yes. It is similar in nature to "Adam" and "A Brilliant Young Mind" (a.k.a. "X + Y"). While these two Western films are more about a specific autistic person, these three shows portrayed autism properly.
So, there is a rumour going around that Extraordinary Attorney Woo is in talks with various North American producers for a possible adaptation.
If true, I sincerely hope it the American adaptation won't suffer from the same flak as the other autism related adaptation, "The Good Doctor" which was based on the K-drama "Good Doctor". (Just search "The Good Doctor" and you'll see a lot of negative feedback about it from the autistic community.)
I have not watch the original or any other adaptation (there is a Japanese, Hong Kong, and Turkish adaptations too), so I can not say how good or bad any of it.
May I ask, Netflix in what country? I want to use VPN to access the new episodes, as Netflix in my country sadly…
Yeah, could've changed or some other conditions.
I also encountered crazy timing from Netflix, one time everyone already have it in my actual region and I still can't access it even though my account's paid in our own region and I'm not using VPN for it.
But when I changed region, I can access it fine. LOLs.
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They successfully set us up to think that something will go wrong and they will all get away from it again.
That's a better wording and more understandable.
I think I explained that in my Episode 1 feedback (or maybe I removed it for later; I am waiting for them to show something related it to it).
In any case, you are correct in your understanding as to why there is a chart.
So, let's go back to your original post now that I understand what you are trying to convey:
> makes me wonder if it's not a blessing in disguise she can't convey her feeling about her mother's abandonemnt.
That depends. As an autistic who can only identify and do smiling and laughing, it is not a blessing in disguise. I don't know how to look sad (I can't even move my lips to look like the sad mask), to look angry, to look annoyed, or any other facial expressions.
When my mind is actually blank, people assume I have a problem, they ask why I am sad, what's wrong, blah blah blah, when I just want to be alone and have my precious "blank" moments which I rarely get. It's rest time. It's recharge time. I have no idea I look "sad" or anything, and neurotypical people will keep pestering me what my problem is, that I should open up.
When I'm angry, people think I am joking because I don't look angry, and they won't take me seriously.
So … it depends. For me, as an autistic, it is not a blessing in disguise.
Then we have to consider the other side of the coin: being able to identify other people's facial expressions. Since I only understand smiling and laughing, you have to literally tell me what's going on. And as an autistic man who dated neurotypical women, well, I'm sure you can imagine the challenge on both sides. Men find it hard to understand women already, then you add me who can't identify facial expressions.
If I keep on talking, I wouldn't know if the other party is bored, annoyed, not interested. To neurotypicals, it's natural. Since neurotypicals won't say it, I'm just the one asking "you're bored?" Or, I say, "I'm talking too much."
So … it depends. For me, it is not a blessing in disguise. I very much want identifying and doing facial expressions to be natural for me as it is natural for neurotypicals.
Does that help?
Just because the person brushed her hair and was married once, the psych evaluated she "can't be autistic" … just like that.
I'll quote it here:
> but in fact the way she can't express her feelings and checks a chart his father made for her to show facial expressions, makes me wonder if it's not a blessing in disguise she can't convey her feeling about her mother's abandonemnt.
I can't see a connection.
I read your reply, word by word but you only described autism, it still escapes me what it has to do with Young Woo being abandoned by her mother and why it may be a blessing in disguise.
Sorry, I'm trying to make sense of it. Maybe I can explain if I see the connection … or maybe not.
Also, you're thinking linearly or in a two-dimensional way: the young and the old should be doing similar things regardless. It's not always the case with autism. Autism is not a two-dimensional spectrum, it is four-dimensional.
Each trait and quirk can change overtime. An autistic may be this as a kid but different as an adult. Or, as a kid it's less observable but as an adult their traits and quirks are more profound.
What does not being able to read expressions and express it yourself, has to do with her mother abandoning her?
Can you please elaborate?
We avoid lying at all costs because we hate it. But it does not mean we can not lie.
Our number one lie is masking. We are not only lying to you, neurotypicals, for hiding who we are, but we are also lying to ourselves for pretending to be who we are not.
If you missed it:
Point 1: He was not happy the Young Woo team visited him. That was a bad call on their part. He already found a way to "save" the defector and the Woo Young Woo is going to mess things up if it leaks they visited him.
Point 2: In his verdict, he used the very thing the Woo Young Woo team missed, the defector's honesty. -- I was also gunning for that, and I can't believe the Woo Young Woo team missed that.
I can't remember if it was in EAW, some other legal drama, or a real legal show, or from a lawyer talk I attended to in the past, but court proceedings do consider the intention and honesty of the defendant.
This is what the judge showed. He already found a way from the beginning how he can get the defector a reduced sentence, and in the last hearing, he even checked if she is worth it when he cornered the defendant.
If the defendant followed the Young Woo team for her to "lie" or to use her right not to answer, the judge would more likely go for a minimum sentence.
But because the defendant was honest, she even admitted she doesn't know anything about NoKor laws, that gave the judge the understanding that the defendant is a genuine person who doesn't deserve anything more than 4 years.
The Young Woo team almost messed everything there. And as the episode showed, the team admitted they missed the most crucial point, her confession, her honesty. That is what the judge saw from the beginning and he already have a plan.
So, the show portrayed that not all judges can be influenced by connections. They may acknowledge connections but it doesn't mean they will be compromised because of it.
Yes, it's highly unusual to talk about connections in preliminaries but the show just want to use that scene to hint or give more deeper meaning to the judge's verdict. Remember, it's fiction, you can change "what happens before" so the result or message you want to express gets a deeper meaning or more impact.
Think of it this way, they already have a verdict. The first draft of the script probably did not include the "hey let's check our connections". But the verdict is too shallow. It is there but if they add the "check our connections" scene, it gives more depth to the verdict, the defector's honesty, and the judge's character.
^_^
We have gone far beyond those old views. It is time to update ourselves, and hey, we autistics are the ones telling you that we have emotions, we have empathy, we have sympathy.
We are not robots. =))
The character Woo Young Woo is representing autistics and autism in a general sense thrust into a world made for neurotypicals. It discusses what autistics go through while navigating the often draining world of neurotypicals. It exposes on the discrimination, prejudices, and stigma. While at the same time, also teaching how to approach and communicate with autistics; as well as, what is autism and what makes an autistic.
Does it give justice to autistics and autism? Yes. It is similar in nature to "Adam" and "A Brilliant Young Mind" (a.k.a. "X + Y"). While these two Western films are more about a specific autistic person, these three shows portrayed autism properly.
Thank you for waiting.
If true, I sincerely hope it the American adaptation won't suffer from the same flak as the other autism related adaptation, "The Good Doctor" which was based on the K-drama "Good Doctor". (Just search "The Good Doctor" and you'll see a lot of negative feedback about it from the autistic community.)
I have not watch the original or any other adaptation (there is a Japanese, Hong Kong, and Turkish adaptations too), so I can not say how good or bad any of it.
I also encountered crazy timing from Netflix, one time everyone already have it in my actual region and I still can't access it even though my account's paid in our own region and I'm not using VPN for it.
But when I changed region, I can access it fine. LOLs.
I'll watch episode 6 tomorrow.