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Hmm maybe. But at the end of episode 20, the captions read 'The End', so not sure. Guess we'll find out tommorow

And he runs a gisaeng house and publishes erotic books????

yep, no good deeds go un-repaid. The SFL is about to ruin everything. The FL also needs to burn her family down to the ground. That younger brother is utter trash.

Really enjoying this. Hoping the FL remains strong and in control, but stays true to her love for Fu Chang.

Lol. Commenters of this drama are all like the friend group who at first sympathized, then offered good advice, and now are just sick and tired of the same up/down in their relationship

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Man, I feel the same way! I'm enjoying the drama, but I feel exhausted before I even hit play.
The latest episode had some character growth, but it was also hampered by the majority of the time spent once again on some bullshit back-and-forth.

I don't know how the characters themselves don't feel the same exhaustion. If there was any hope for additional character growth in either of them, it would have made sense for one of them to realize how exhausting their push-pull dynamic is. But it's like after every fight, they forget what happened before. Or perhaps that's just toxic relationships?

Yeon Seo's mother is absolutely....ugh! She's like a toddler constantly throwing tantrums, then you add on her hypocrisy, narrow-mindedness and its any wonder why Kang Hee would even contemplate dating Yeon Seo.

Also Yeon Seo is 50% of the issue with the back and forth relationship with Kang Hee. He's such a nice guy that he's passive enough to go along with the fake gf - even when his mom escalates it the point that the townspeople are considering them already engaged. He's such a "nice guy" that he's doesn't raise hell when his mother disrespects Kang Hee for crimes she never committed (and her mother as well). He's such a nice guy that he goes along with everyone thinking that Kang Hee abandoned him when the plan was for them to go together but he bailed on her because of his grandfather.

I wish the writing in this was better. The main romantic relationships have legitimate obstacles that could have been fleshed out, instead of the juvenile back-and-forth that they've written so far.

Lol agreed. The actor is very attractive

I also caught a whiff of the pro-life angle the show seems to be advocating. But like you said, the tone of the show makes it hard to understand if the writers thought deeply enough of their subject matter or were just writing with a heroic treatment for the ML. They should have just left it out, so far I have no confidence in the writers tackling such a heavy topic with enough nuance or even logic (see the ectopic pregnancy plot-point).

Kang Gang Su successfully fertilizes some of the eggs. He gets caught by Eve. He lies to Eve that the eggs were from an anonymous donor and the sperm stolen from one of the crewmates. Eve reports this to Mission Control on earth. Mission Control fires Kang Gang Su. As part of the protocol to avoid bringing possible contagions back to earth, Eve trashes the fertilized eggs. Gong Ryong calls her a murderer.

It\s kinda become obvious that the writing is headed in the direction of undermining Eve's character in order to uplift Gong Ryong's.

She's spent, what, over a decade training to be a scientist and an astronaut, for operations with redundancies upon redundancies put in place, and yet she's been reduced to someone who needs him to come to the rescue again and again. Can't a girl be allowed to be competent and in charge? Like writers, even if she's in a bind, she's got a crew of equally qualified astronauts!!

As much as he protests, he's got many similarities with Kang Gang Su. Both are cocky ego-driven, and tend to see themselves as above the rules. He's been a constant nuisance since the start of the trip, and consistently disregards the rules. She's reprimanded him when it was needed, but also given him plenty of grace so far.

If I were her, his latest shenanigans would have forever killed whatever budding interest one might have had in him. Eve should have locked him in his room till it was time for his return to Earth.

The whole fertilizing eggs plot gives me the ick. It's an exercise in sheer human hubris. I cheered when Eve did what she did with the eggs - why should one jeopardize the crew and possible contagions being brought back to earth just because some chaebol and his DIL want to continue their bloodline. Haven't they heard of adoption? They've already broken multiple international laws before the child is conceived, put the lives of the space crew and others at risk, disregarded those who helped them, and we're supposed to believe a child raised in such an environment would grow up to be a beneficial member of society???

Thanks for the context on the marriage registration issue. Didn't know that, and it has added to my understanding of the previous noona dramas I've watched

It’s obvious you’re not interested in having a civil conversation. So I’m over engaging with you.

You should take your own advice. The irony of many of your points seem lost on you.

I rolled my eyes so hard at that scene of the Junho showing her the fox. For every story we get about a teaching who had a "fun" approach to teaching, I can cite many others where teachers tried to bring pop culture into the classroom only to leave many students out (those with strict parents who never allowed tvs in their homes, or new immigrants, or kids with non-mainstream interests).

The audiences opinions are very relevant. Those opinions determine the drama's ratings, other people choosing to watch the drama, and the writers/directors/actors ability to get the next project. Moreover, the whole point of having a site like MDL which supports commenting and reviews, is for viewers to have and express an opinion.

Also please actually read my posts before rebutting. "SJ is not competent because she was convinced by this new format" was never my argument

Those two points were in rebuttal to the previous argument, and not at all my main points.

Like you said, most companies severely punish workers who "fail". Even more so, if they broke the rules of the game.

You also might need to reexamine how you talk to people. Everyone watches a drama and comes out with a different interpretation. Yours seems to be to buy into something because the writer says so, never mind how realistic or logical their points might be.

First, I understand the point the director is trying to make but I disagree with their POV. It's idealistic at best to think that Junho's approach would fit into the hagwon system. And worse, that they should throw away all the material they've worked on to adopt this new system. Companies may reward those who break the rules and make money but they severely punish those who fail. Especially someone like SYJ who has many people already gunning for her demise.

Second, while change might be frightening to some, SYJ does not seem to have had that problem in the past. Its her adaptability that has kept her in the game for the last 10 years. If she was stagnant, she would have failed long ago. In the past episodes, SYJ was quick to jump on new ideas so the writer should have addressed why she was so against this one.

People might be impressed by Jun Ho's idea, but people are often very swayed by ideals. Characters are made to say they agree with his POV but that's a staple in kdramas when a writer has a POV they wish to hammer across. It's similar to how dramas make everyone gush about the ML's appearance. Audiences should not be convinced by this, it's just lazy writing.

Furthermore, the writers make no effort to show how Junho's approach would work for the majority of students. Remember the hagwon teaches hundreds of kids every year. We know that not everyone learns the same way, nor has the same motivations for studying. And with the hagwon main goal of making money, how will they tailor it to fit those students?

How do we know Junho's approach wouldn't be sabotaged by other academies? The last time he had a big idea (helped by SYJ in the background btw), they fell flat on their faces. Yes, the gained a new student at the end, but the overall mission was a failure and could have cost SYJ hher job!

Overall, I stand by my opinion that Junho's approach to communicating with SYJ has been abysmal. Last episode, his friends called him out on it too. He's always said that once he has his mind set on something, no one can stop him. But that's not a relationship, In a relationship, one tries to work with their partner to meet a compromise, based on what each needs at that time. Not based on only their own ideas or some romanticized idea of what they had in the past, but on each of them are at that current time. Junho hasn't shown any ability to do this. He's constantly waving her concerns away, not listening to her boundaries or respecting her POV.

Lastly, my definition of success does not include buying into hubris just because a show wants me to believe it.

I’ll help you bury his body lol. She’s made her money, it’s time she gets to enjoy it instead of being belittled by her arrogant younger boyfriend

He’s so sure that his (unproved) methods will work based on a sample size of 2 students (himself included)! His last big swing ended with them falling flat on their face but he’s unfazed!

It’s like he’s mad at her for not living up to his ideal image that he had of her. Which is deeply immature and not her fault.