I personally think some ppl don't give LDQ enough credit for his portrayal, reducing him to the pouty "baby girl Wang", while in fact his portrayal showed us a huge array of different emotions. And yes, the cute pout was there, too, but there was way, waaay more - from confusion, to awe and love, to embarrassment, to sadness, to regret - and he did such a great job. I looked at the guy and thought he controls every muscle of his face to give the intended expression. Plus his eyes and voice are so expressive!
And just to be clear, Benjamin was absolutely fantastic, no doubt about it! But that's generally what everyone is saying already, so I wanted to give some due credit to Dong Qin, too.
No, not CGI, not a fake cockroach model or swift editing... He actually puts his hand on the cockroach (and in the behind the scenes footage you can see him even carrying it briefly, before some lady takes over). Help~~
It's not officially confirmed. As far as I understand, the biggest issue has been funding all along and the final…
I don't think it was his decision... I mean, a director doesn't have as much power as people tend to think he does (unless he's a producer/investor himself). I read so much about this topic on season 2, so I might be mixing things up, but if I remember correctly (don't quote me on that π), he wanted to film the entirety of the story, but the investors were like: let's have season 1 made and see how it does.
I don't know if those people protesting and sending hate to NYS realize that they actually ended up promoting it for free π I wasn't planning on watching any BL for some time (after The On1y One stole my heart and made everything else look blah in comparison) but *now* I am for sure going to watch this one. Counting down the days to its release, actually.
Guys, am I the only one shocked that the cockroach scene actually entailed Benjamin for real catching that bug with his bare hand? I've seen the behind the scenes footage from IG and I can't get over it...
In some random posts on social media, I've read some comments from fans that the second season has been confirmed,…
It's not officially confirmed. As far as I understand, the biggest issue has been funding all along and the final decision will be made based on the money the series made. That decision will happen within I think 5 months from now (but the filming *could* also start within that period of time, theoretically).
Apparently a lot of gossip can be found circulating online... I even saw people spreading info abt 11 episodes of s2 being filmed already (untrue, the filming for season 2 hasn't started yet) or - on the other hand - ones about season 2 being dropped or the cast changes etc. (also fake, Patrick Liu - the director addressed them). It probably would be best to just follow the official IG profile of the drama or the director's profile, for most reliable news. There's also a Telegram group.
No problem, I wanted to "promote" some of the series I liked, anyway π I hope you'll like Let's Talk About Chu. I honestly think it's one of the better Taiwanese series I've watched and the BL part is so entertaining, you'll see (I mean, I hope you will).
Psych Hunter is an ok drama. I'm watching it right now, and at this moment I'd rank it 7/10 (probably 8/10 if…
I'm at ep 10 in PH and the developing love story (so far) feels really lacklustre... I'm not opposed to the idea of a love plot being there, but I just really really don't vibe with this particular pair. Like, in the last ep I watched, we got to know the FL's brother and she had more chemistry with him than her supposed love interest π
Still, I'm watching on. And yes, Dong Qin is great.
I haven't watched Cupid's Kitchen yet. I actually had it on my Viki watchlist for a long time already, but always found something else to watch first. Now when I'm familiar not only with Ethan but also Dong Qin from the main cast, I am more eager to watch it and will probably start soon.
A snippet of it popped up on my YouTube today, too. It looked genuinely funny, but DQ's character seems to be a bit of an a-hole, pardon my language π
I wasn't the one asked, but let me chime in with some of my recommendations π
1. My Tooth Your Love - really decent series, with admittedly some weird developments towards the ending, but overall still on the positive side; the same director as Unknown and We Best Love
2. You Are Mine - campy, slapstick-y, bubbly; honestly, it was my favourite BL series before I watched The On1y One; even though I saw some ppl criticise it harshly for weak story etc., I'm pretty sure I could defend this show against the criticisms if I wanted to π amazing chemistry between the leads + some of the best kissing scenes you'll see in any BL
3. Red Balloon - an older and somewhat forgotten series; bittersweet story with believable portrayal of developing crush between characters; featuring Edward Chen (before he played in Your Name Engraved Herein - a movie which I'd also strongly recommend, if you haven't watched it)
and finally
4. Let's Talk About Chu - this drama is not actually a BL, but one of the storylines focuses on a gay couple and it is really, really enjoyable; it does feature strong language, violence and some explicit scenes (I think it is 18+, bear that in mind!), but the whole relationship between two protagonists has its cute, wholesome and touching moments; the BL story is a highlight of this show for me, but honestly, the entire drama is really good, so I'd recommend watching it, even without skipping other pairings
How was it romanticized? Did I watch a different drama? πDid I miss an episode or something? πThe young…
If kdramas glorify cheating that's a kdrama problem, not my outlook on life or relationships. I never mentioned cheating should be glorified and I myself dislike double standards, in general. But I also don't think that every show talking about cheating (or crime or any other behaviour that's widely seen as wrong) is by default glorifying it, just because they portray it.
Anyway, I simply wrote that I didn't find this drama romanticizing it at all and shared my overall impression of this show (extending it to the fact that she gets her "karma" for both transgressions). You also were the one who mentioned her stealing money in your comment...
The guy she cheated with couldn't care less about her after initial fascination and strong chemistry they had at first. And he turned into a dude who was more into glamourous life than her. While it wasn't technically directly telling her "you cheated, and you got punished", it also clearly showed that it wasn't a good life decision on her part.
I think her husband was an a-hole, so I don't care about his happy ending. However, I also think that people can carry themselves with dignity regardless of who we deal with and the better choice on her part would've been just divorcing the guy, instead of cheating (a divorce attorney would've been a better way to spend the stolen money than buying expensive gifts of her pet-boy, anyway). But this drama shows her making wrong decisions all the time.
And I would have had the same attitude if the show focused on a guy who was stuck in a relationship with a toxic wife, btw.
So she cheated and nothing happen to her same old thing When women cheat nothing happened but when man cheat it's…
How was it romanticized? Did I watch a different drama? πDid I miss an episode or something? π
The young "charming" guy turns out to be a dude easily swayed by money and glamour and the entire relationship turns into shhh. Then she also needs to flee due to legal problems...
I highly enjoyed this drama (I was especially taken by KSH's acting and visuals/cinematography), but I always felt this drama could be - aside from a social commentary - watched as a cautionary tale of what *not* to do. I am surprised seeing people having such different takeaways from this show (it's not just you, I chose to reply to your comment, but I've read other comments as well interpreting it in the similar way).
A minimum of white collar crime and psychological thriller but a maximum of melodrama with little to no character…
Transformative act of love? Hmm... I had a completely different impression.
When I watched this drama (and I did enjoy it *a lot*), while FL and ML had great chemistry and the scenes when they were still dancing around the idea of cheating were beautifully shot and sensual, I never got the impression the drama portrayed this affair as some type of a positive transformation, for neither of them, but especially FL. If anything, to me it paralleled FL's transgressive actions in her professional life. In both cases, things did not end well for her...
I actually felt that, if anything, this drama was telling the viewers: if you don't actually deal (with the emphasis on *dealing*) with whatever makes you unhappy in your life, you won't be free. A young lover (a designer bag, embezzled money) is just a temporary "pain killer" that will not lead to anything good in the end.
Call me crazy, but I love the product placements. I think they're just 'part of' the BL series culture at this…
Agreed. It's like a constant 4th wall breaking, only not in a charming deadpoolisque way, but in a way that reminds the audience: "we are here to make money, we kiss to make money, we cry to make money". And of course, nothing wrong with making money, I wish for the actors (especially good ones) to make a lot, but when I want to immerse myself within a story, it's kinda difficult with all the advertising happening around.
I have a somehow unrelated question to the Liu Dong Qin fans - I really, really liked his acting and would like…
Psych Hunter is an ok drama. I'm watching it right now, and at this moment I'd rank it 7/10 (probably 8/10 if I was rating it on a platform like Viki). It has a nice eerie vibe plus the settings and costumes are very pretty. The story has supernatural elements and feels a bit like... Inception, I guess (only not as good π). If I were to describe how this drama makes me feel, it is the kind of drama that once I sit down to watch it, I enjoy it and I want to continue to the next episode, but if I take a break, I don't really miss it and I am not so eager to get back to it.
What I found somewhat disappointing is that there's very little detective aspect to solving the mysteries (most things are uncovered in dreams, so there's little process of logical deduction). If you don't like a love story, I will warn you that there is one (not for Dong Qin, though - for the other ML). That love plot is the reason why I'm a bit reluctant to go further, because I just feel no chemistry between the other ML and FL (I personally think she has way more chemistry with one other side male character, or even with Dong Qin, tbh).
Still, Dong Qin and another ML have a rather strong bromance going on (with some innuendos here and there suggesting deeper connection, censored cdrama style) and Dong Qin's entire character is such a joy to watch, knowing already how much different he is in The On1y One. And it's not just the appearance, but the entire vibe of a person, gestures, mannerism. Psych Hunter is worth checking out, if only just for those.
Psych Hunter (main cast) - on iQYI or on their official YouTube channel (it seems not to be available everywhere, though) Cupid's Kitchen (main cast) - on Viki Only for Love (supporting cast) - on Viki Wonderland of Love (supporting cast) - on Viki
A couple of months ago I've heard about this drama before its release and decided to read the novel in advance.…
It's a story as old as time, fans of the novel not liking its adaptation... I've seen it happen so many times or heard of it happening, it actually surprises me when some adaptations are considered good by the written work enthusiasts. I think it's perfectly normal not to like a work that enforces changes upon a story you already loved before, so you won't be starting a war with me.
I will, however, disagree with you about one thing: casting. Regardless of LDQ's or Benjamin's age, I think the drama benefited tremendously from them being chosen as the main protagonists. It's the first BL drama I have watched when I felt the acting from both MLs was phenomenal and I think that the director/producers stroke gold with these two.
They do look older than their intended age, but I really don't mind. I am willing to accept this slight age dissonance if what I'm getting in return is such stellar acting. And I don't really agree with the plea "please stop casting 30 year olds as teenagers". It's generally way more likely to find an experienced, skilled actors among those who are a bit older (not saying it's impossible to find talented actors in their early twenties, but the talent pool gets way bigger when you take those 30 year olds into consideration as well). Of course, they should still be able to pull off the youthful vibe, but I personally think both Benjamin and Dong Qin did it very well. If anything, I would probably work a bit more on make-up, because if there was anything making anyone look too old, was the caky make-up on Dong Qin in some of the scenes.
Questions for those who watched the whole first season (spoiler alert β οΈ):After reading spoilers from people…
I read bits of the novel after completing the series, but I actually treat both works as separate entities (unless season 2 never gets released, then I'd adjust my attitude, because I'd need *some* closure for drama's character). So whatever JT and SW are doing in the series, I just interpret it through the drama's events.
As for your questions, here is my POV:
1) Yes. Episodes 10-12 where the breakthrough for SW's understanding his own feelings (there were bits of them transpiring here and there - e.g. eps 7 and 8, when he felt conflicted abt JT possibly becoming his brother or when he was messaging with JT over the phone before moving in together - but without him understanding what was happening).
2) He pulled away because JT and him are supposed to be brothers, that's what they were announced as to the entire school and that's what SW thinks JT is seeing him as (a family, a close friend, a brother-to-be). Plus yes, he thinks his feelings are not reciprocated. Some people mention internalised homophobia as well, but I personally do not see it. I think the two things above are scary enough for a teenager to deal with.
3) While I don't know at what moment exactly he woke up, he was definitely awake when SW tried to kiss him and aware of what almost happened.
Call me crazy, but I love the product placements. I think they're just 'part of' the BL series culture at this…
Not crazy, but definitely unique and *very* understanding π That's a POV I couldn't possibly share - the extent and limit of my kindness I can give to product placements is appreciating when the creators try to be... well, creative about them.
As cringe as it was, I remember thinking "well, at least you guys are being original" when Kinn and Porsche were playing with bread in bed... π Till this day I don't know if that condom scene in 2nd (or 3rd) episode of You Are Mine was a product placement or not, but if it was, I'f consider it a huge success as it genuinely made me laugh and felt so seamless. Generally, now when I think about it, You Are Mine product placements were pretty nicely incorporated into a story... But it's way easier to do it when a drama is already slapsticky and campy. I dread at just a thought about product placements in The On1y One πGosh, I hope they don't have the idea to have them once the timeline goes to 2024... π
It's an interesting thought that you said about product placements being part of BL culture. I never had this impression, maybe because I also watched a fair deal of contemporary cdramas and they love their product placements there. I watched that one drama from which I no longer even remember character names, but I still remember what they tried to sell me π
To those who loved this show and are planning to binge it now or are constantly re-watching (as I know there are folks like that), pleeeeaaase do so on legal platforms.
This show is available on so many to choose from (Gaga, Viki, WeTV, iQiyia, for some also Netflix) - you get to choose the preferred one (and some might be more financially accessible than others). Plus, if you loved this drama, you already know it's a money well spent and the product will satisfy you π
Ofc, it's none of my business or place to tell others where to spend their money on, and if you can't afford it, then you can't, I suppose. But to those who can, and simply chose to watch "for free", please do consider the high quality of this drama (I went through some of the reviews, and in general even among those who didn't like the ending, or felt there was too little romance etc., there is a somewhat shared consensus that cinematography and acting are just really, really good) or the fact that there is no product placement in it. I mean, imagine any of the beautiful nearly poetic scenes between JT and SW interrupted by a plug of some product. Think of the "maybe we can try to get closer" scene and JT giving SW some health supplement instead of water with lemon and honey while giving a speech abt immunity-boosting effects of that drink π
This drama had none of such stuff, which means more comfort while watching for use, but also - in the end - less money for the creators...
So, if you hope for a second season or just simply appreciate the final product, its quality and the effort put into it, please consider what I just said...
I personally think some ppl don't give LDQ enough credit for his portrayal, reducing him to the pouty "baby girl Wang", while in fact his portrayal showed us a huge array of different emotions. And yes, the cute pout was there, too, but there was way, waaay more - from confusion, to awe and love, to embarrassment, to sadness, to regret - and he did such a great job. I looked at the guy and thought he controls every muscle of his face to give the intended expression. Plus his eyes and voice are so expressive!
And just to be clear, Benjamin was absolutely fantastic, no doubt about it! But that's generally what everyone is saying already, so I wanted to give some due credit to Dong Qin, too.
Help~~
I read so much about this topic on season 2, so I might be mixing things up, but if I remember correctly (don't quote me on that π), he wanted to film the entirety of the story, but the investors were like: let's have season 1 made and see how it does.
I wasn't planning on watching any BL for some time (after The On1y One stole my heart and made everything else look blah in comparison) but *now* I am for sure going to watch this one.
Counting down the days to its release, actually.
So yeah, good job, I guess?
Apparently a lot of gossip can be found circulating online... I even saw people spreading info abt 11 episodes of s2 being filmed already (untrue, the filming for season 2 hasn't started yet) or - on the other hand - ones about season 2 being dropped or the cast changes etc. (also fake, Patrick Liu - the director addressed them). It probably would be best to just follow the official IG profile of the drama or the director's profile, for most reliable news. There's also a Telegram group.
The director went on IG some time ago and answered some questions, here is a post summarizing it: https://kisskh.at/68995-mou-mou#comment-19025072
And another one, with more updates about s2: https://kisskh.at/68995-mou-mou#comment-19078420
Still, I'm watching on. And yes, Dong Qin is great.
I haven't watched Cupid's Kitchen yet. I actually had it on my Viki watchlist for a long time already, but always found something else to watch first. Now when I'm familiar not only with Ethan but also Dong Qin from the main cast, I am more eager to watch it and will probably start soon.
A snippet of it popped up on my YouTube today, too. It looked genuinely funny, but DQ's character seems to be a bit of an a-hole, pardon my language π
1. My Tooth Your Love - really decent series, with admittedly some weird developments towards the ending, but overall still on the positive side; the same director as Unknown and We Best Love
2. You Are Mine - campy, slapstick-y, bubbly; honestly, it was my favourite BL series before I watched The On1y One; even though I saw some ppl criticise it harshly for weak story etc., I'm pretty sure I could defend this show against the criticisms if I wanted to π amazing chemistry between the leads + some of the best kissing scenes you'll see in any BL
3. Red Balloon - an older and somewhat forgotten series; bittersweet story with believable portrayal of developing crush between characters; featuring Edward Chen (before he played in Your Name Engraved Herein - a movie which I'd also strongly recommend, if you haven't watched it)
and finally
4. Let's Talk About Chu - this drama is not actually a BL, but one of the storylines focuses on a gay couple and it is really, really enjoyable; it does feature strong language, violence and some explicit scenes (I think it is 18+, bear that in mind!), but the whole relationship between two protagonists has its cute, wholesome and touching moments; the BL story is a highlight of this show for me, but honestly, the entire drama is really good, so I'd recommend watching it, even without skipping other pairings
Anyway, I simply wrote that I didn't find this drama romanticizing it at all and shared my overall impression of this show (extending it to the fact that she gets her "karma" for both transgressions). You also were the one who mentioned her stealing money in your comment...
The guy she cheated with couldn't care less about her after initial fascination and strong chemistry they had at first. And he turned into a dude who was more into glamourous life than her. While it wasn't technically directly telling her "you cheated, and you got punished", it also clearly showed that it wasn't a good life decision on her part.
I think her husband was an a-hole, so I don't care about his happy ending. However, I also think that people can carry themselves with dignity regardless of who we deal with and the better choice on her part would've been just divorcing the guy, instead of cheating (a divorce attorney would've been a better way to spend the stolen money than buying expensive gifts of her pet-boy, anyway). But this drama shows her making wrong decisions all the time.
And I would have had the same attitude if the show focused on a guy who was stuck in a relationship with a toxic wife, btw.
The young "charming" guy turns out to be a dude easily swayed by money and glamour and the entire relationship turns into shhh. Then she also needs to flee due to legal problems...
I highly enjoyed this drama (I was especially taken by KSH's acting and visuals/cinematography), but I always felt this drama could be - aside from a social commentary - watched as a cautionary tale of what *not* to do. I am surprised seeing people having such different takeaways from this show (it's not just you, I chose to reply to your comment, but I've read other comments as well interpreting it in the similar way).
When I watched this drama (and I did enjoy it *a lot*), while FL and ML had great chemistry and the scenes when they were still dancing around the idea of cheating were beautifully shot and sensual, I never got the impression the drama portrayed this affair as some type of a positive transformation, for neither of them, but especially FL. If anything, to me it paralleled FL's transgressive actions in her professional life. In both cases, things did not end well for her...
I actually felt that, if anything, this drama was telling the viewers: if you don't actually deal (with the emphasis on *dealing*) with whatever makes you unhappy in your life, you won't be free. A young lover (a designer bag, embezzled money) is just a temporary "pain killer" that will not lead to anything good in the end.
What I found somewhat disappointing is that there's very little detective aspect to solving the mysteries (most things are uncovered in dreams, so there's little process of logical deduction). If you don't like a love story, I will warn you that there is one (not for Dong Qin, though - for the other ML). That love plot is the reason why I'm a bit reluctant to go further, because I just feel no chemistry between the other ML and FL (I personally think she has way more chemistry with one other side male character, or even with Dong Qin, tbh).
Still, Dong Qin and another ML have a rather strong bromance going on (with some innuendos here and there suggesting deeper connection, censored cdrama style) and Dong Qin's entire character is such a joy to watch, knowing already how much different he is in The On1y One. And it's not just the appearance, but the entire vibe of a person, gestures, mannerism. Psych Hunter is worth checking out, if only just for those.
Psych Hunter (main cast) - on iQYI or on their official YouTube channel (it seems not to be available everywhere, though)
Cupid's Kitchen (main cast) - on Viki
Only for Love (supporting cast) - on Viki
Wonderland of Love (supporting cast) - on Viki
I will, however, disagree with you about one thing: casting. Regardless of LDQ's or Benjamin's age, I think the drama benefited tremendously from them being chosen as the main protagonists. It's the first BL drama I have watched when I felt the acting from both MLs was phenomenal and I think that the director/producers stroke gold with these two.
They do look older than their intended age, but I really don't mind. I am willing to accept this slight age dissonance if what I'm getting in return is such stellar acting. And I don't really agree with the plea "please stop casting 30 year olds as teenagers". It's generally way more likely to find an experienced, skilled actors among those who are a bit older (not saying it's impossible to find talented actors in their early twenties, but the talent pool gets way bigger when you take those 30 year olds into consideration as well). Of course, they should still be able to pull off the youthful vibe, but I personally think both Benjamin and Dong Qin did it very well.
If anything, I would probably work a bit more on make-up, because if there was anything making anyone look too old, was the caky make-up on Dong Qin in some of the scenes.
As for your questions, here is my POV:
1) Yes. Episodes 10-12 where the breakthrough for SW's understanding his own feelings (there were bits of them transpiring here and there - e.g. eps 7 and 8, when he felt conflicted abt JT possibly becoming his brother or when he was messaging with JT over the phone before moving in together - but without him understanding what was happening).
2) He pulled away because JT and him are supposed to be brothers, that's what they were announced as to the entire school and that's what SW thinks JT is seeing him as (a family, a close friend, a brother-to-be). Plus yes, he thinks his feelings are not reciprocated.
Some people mention internalised homophobia as well, but I personally do not see it. I think the two things above are scary enough for a teenager to deal with.
3) While I don't know at what moment exactly he woke up, he was definitely awake when SW tried to kiss him and aware of what almost happened.
As cringe as it was, I remember thinking "well, at least you guys are being original" when Kinn and Porsche were playing with bread in bed... π Till this day I don't know if that condom scene in 2nd (or 3rd) episode of You Are Mine was a product placement or not, but if it was, I'f consider it a huge success as it genuinely made me laugh and felt so seamless. Generally, now when I think about it, You Are Mine product placements were pretty nicely incorporated into a story... But it's way easier to do it when a drama is already slapsticky and campy.
I dread at just a thought about product placements in The On1y One πGosh, I hope they don't have the idea to have them once the timeline goes to 2024... π
It's an interesting thought that you said about product placements being part of BL culture. I never had this impression, maybe because I also watched a fair deal of contemporary cdramas and they love their product placements there. I watched that one drama from which I no longer even remember character names, but I still remember what they tried to sell me π
This show is available on so many to choose from (Gaga, Viki, WeTV, iQiyia, for some also Netflix) - you get to choose the preferred one (and some might be more financially accessible than others). Plus, if you loved this drama, you already know it's a money well spent and the product will satisfy you π
Ofc, it's none of my business or place to tell others where to spend their money on, and if you can't afford it, then you can't, I suppose.
But to those who can, and simply chose to watch "for free", please do consider the high quality of this drama (I went through some of the reviews, and in general even among those who didn't like the ending, or felt there was too little romance etc., there is a somewhat shared consensus that cinematography and acting are just really, really good) or the fact that there is no product placement in it.
I mean, imagine any of the beautiful nearly poetic scenes between JT and SW interrupted by a plug of some product. Think of the "maybe we can try to get closer" scene and JT giving SW some health supplement instead of water with lemon and honey while giving a speech abt immunity-boosting effects of that drink π
This drama had none of such stuff, which means more comfort while watching for use, but also - in the end - less money for the creators...
So, if you hope for a second season or just simply appreciate the final product, its quality and the effort put into it, please consider what I just said...