A lot of talk points about absolute negatives on dubbing come from racist views and the refusal to learn foreign…
Voice actors can be fantastic, for sure. I still can't get over the guy who dubbed Chicheng in RL and how good he sounded. Still, I don't necessarily think preferring to have a full performance from one person (voice + facial expressions + body language) or wanting to have the sound in sync with the image has anything to do with being racist... It's just watching experience preference. Also, some people are more sensitive to lack of synchronisation between image and sound than others.
I loved SCD, it's my favourite drama of this year. I also really liked Chusan's voice in it (which did come from a voice actor). I felt it really created this calm aura around the character. Still, if someone gave me a choice, I would've preferred no dubbing and Changxi's original voice. If only for the fact that he would've had more control over his final performance.
I think it's fine to have these opinions, as long as we voice them in a civilised manner :)
But of course, skipping SCD due to dubbing? Nah, that's such an utter waste.
Tian Xiwei well deserved high spot. She's ruling this year with her acting skills.
Happy to see He Yanzhao so high (highest among Chinese BL actors?), he's amazing. Well deserved too! Personally, I think He Changxi should've been higher. His micro-expressions and eye acting were great in Sammy's Children's Day.
Wait up, it's her own voice for the two of them?! I was certain they used someone else to dub Jundai. I am impressed!
An all rounder, isn't she? I also saw some vids of her being extremely strong physically 👀 (carrying Zhang Linghe as if the dude weighted nothing). She literally excels at everything, so it seems.
I genuinely do not understand how people can watch c-dramas that have a dub. I will always drop it and move on…
As not a big fan of dubbing myself, I can understand why you dislike it. Personally, if there's ever an option to chose between dubbing and subtitles, I always go for the second one. I also do agree that an actor's speech is an important part of their performance. In fact, if I haven't watched so many cdramas in the recent two years (and through that, grew somewhat tolerant of dubbing), I might've had tougher time watching Sammy's Children's Day. btw it seems off to you more than in other dramas because the actors were speaking Mandarin while filming, but the dubbing is done in Cantonese (basically two different languages). So yeah, generally I can't say I don't understand your POV or that I even disagree with it strongly.
However, I do have something to say about your statement on characters' chemistry. People can say it's good because, as much as voice is an important part of acting, so is body language, facial expressions etc. They're even more important when it comes to chemistry between characters. Cause chemistry is more often than not in the way characters steal glances at each other, how they touch each other, how they smile at one another etc. All of these can be done without saying a single word. When Chusan is telling Liuyi how love is a life-long commitment for him while touching Liuyi's lips and staring at him with those pretty eyes of his, I honestly couldn't care less that Changxi was speaking Mandarin while filming, the dubbing is in Cantonese and the mouth movement is not perfectly synced. When Chusan is literally on the verge of crying while taking care of Liuyi's wounds, I really don't need anything more aside from his face, agonising over the pain and danger the man he loves is in, to feel how much he cares for him. When Liuyi can't take his eyes off Chusan when that sly fox is giving him a wet shirt show as a part of his mastermind plan to lure the guy in, I don't need a word to be said to see and feel how drawn to Chusan Liuyi is. So yeah, that's how I can say these two have great chemisty. Even if the dubbing is not in sync 😋
Wait up, it's her own voice for the two of them?! I was certain they used someone else to dub Jundai. I am impressed!
Yeah, thanks for clarifying. I did understand it, my brain just couldn't process it, because she sounds so much different 😅 I knew she was a good actress already (basically she's the reason I started watching this drama in the first place), but she's really outdoing herself in here!
I'm finally starting this, but the dubbing is really bothering me. I'm assuming they filmed the whole thing in…
No other version. But judging from my own experience, you should get over it few episodes in (hopefully). The story, the characters, the chemistry, the cinematography really pull you in, you forget about the dubbing at some point.
No official announcement from the production company yet. All we know is that they put out a casting notice for…
I was literally reading your comment, seeing how you started to point out "recent news from Xizhao" with numbers and all, and I just *knew* you would most definitely mention them reading the uncensored version of the novel 😂
Aaah, then it must really suck for you 😅 I read that some character's Cantonese is not that good too... (I myself couldn't tell either way, so to me the only challenge was to get over their lips moving "in" Mandarin... 😋) Oh well, I hope you'll be able not only to push through but to enjoy it regardless.
Well, I don't know what motivated their decisions, but what I do know is that they didn't have a big budget, so releasing two different language versions would've probably been too much (?). Besides, I don't have the impression it's that common even for bigger dramas. Plenty of Chinese shows are actually dubbed, as far as I know, though it's usually Mandarin.Dubbing might be a bit off-putting at first, but I got used to it. The cinematography is gorgeous, acting good, chemistry off the charts. Give it a chance 🙂 It's still my favourite drama of this year and it's already October.
The only "tiny" issue with these videos is that the English subs are not always the most accurate 😅 They're there, and for the most part you can understand what they're talking about, but bear in mind that they're not the best 😋
Hi friends! I recently finished this show after putting it off for a long time - I had started it many months…
Effie already mentioned it, but to me - personally - their most genuine comments about their characters and the way they approached them happened during their reaction videos. The comments are made here and there, intertwined with more light-hearted reactions, so you'd have to get through quite a lot of "surface level" talks (but hey, you get to enjoy their great chemistry while in the process😉). Xizhao talk about their character's mindsets in certain scenes or how they tried to approach performing them; they point out visual symbolism of particular shots or even share some additional small info (e.g. that Zhao was speaking Cantonese in some of the scenes in the last episode). And you can also clearly see how certain scenes left a really big impact on both of them and how completely immersed they were while watching and reliving them. I even remember Xixi being not so happy with the way dubbing was made in one of his emotional scenes.... So yeah. If you're interested in comments of more in-depth nature about the drama, the reaction videos would be the right place 😌
They dub Chinese series because there are so many different dialects and actors have different accents. The series…
They speak Mandarin in the series, I don't think I've heard even one sentence in Cantonese and I'm at ep 12. I think the person above was simply explaining why Chinese series usually are dubbed, e.i. because of how many different dialects there are in China and actors coming from different provinces often have very distinct heavy accents even if they speak Mandarin.
A Lie said that he will use other methods right? but what if that method he use is getting intimacy with Lin Zai…
I don't really think that's the case. His original mission is to simply deliver the immune to wherever he's supposed to deliver him. The immune needs to be alive. I assume preferably healthy. It would actually be way safer if he just tied Lin Zai up and dragged him all the way to his destination.
The way they're travelling now it's super inefficient and dangerous. Lin Zai already tried to escape twice and also got them into trouble because of his naive nature.
And about him caring less about Lin Zai in the first episodes, I think it's just natural. They barely knew each other. The more time they spent together, the more attached they became.
Besides, you can clearly see that before kidnapping Lin Zai, A Lie was struggling with guilt because of what he was about to do. So I don't think his feelings now are some part of a mysterious masterplan to trick LZ.
has not been officially confirmed, even though the actors themselves have stated it several times.
There was no official announcement. The actors said s2 will happen and mentioned the filming would start soon. Casting for new characters is underway too. But if you're talking abt actual official announcement - there was none.
Still, I don't necessarily think preferring to have a full performance from one person (voice + facial expressions + body language) or wanting to have the sound in sync with the image has anything to do with being racist...
It's just watching experience preference. Also, some people are more sensitive to lack of synchronisation between image and sound than others.
I loved SCD, it's my favourite drama of this year. I also really liked Chusan's voice in it (which did come from a voice actor). I felt it really created this calm aura around the character.
Still, if someone gave me a choice, I would've preferred no dubbing and Changxi's original voice. If only for the fact that he would've had more control over his final performance.
I think it's fine to have these opinions, as long as we voice them in a civilised manner :)
But of course, skipping SCD due to dubbing? Nah, that's such an utter waste.
Happy to see He Yanzhao so high (highest among Chinese BL actors?), he's amazing. Well deserved too!
Personally, I think He Changxi should've been higher. His micro-expressions and eye acting were great in Sammy's Children's Day.
I would've put Cheng Lei a bit higher too...
I also saw some vids of her being extremely strong physically 👀 (carrying Zhang Linghe as if the dude weighted nothing).
She literally excels at everything, so it seems.
(Now it's just my favourite drama of the year 😉)
btw it seems off to you more than in other dramas because the actors were speaking Mandarin while filming, but the dubbing is done in Cantonese (basically two different languages).
So yeah, generally I can't say I don't understand your POV or that I even disagree with it strongly.
However, I do have something to say about your statement on characters' chemistry. People can say it's good because, as much as voice is an important part of acting, so is body language, facial expressions etc. They're even more important when it comes to chemistry between characters. Cause chemistry is more often than not in the way characters steal glances at each other, how they touch each other, how they smile at one another etc. All of these can be done without saying a single word.
When Chusan is telling Liuyi how love is a life-long commitment for him while touching Liuyi's lips and staring at him with those pretty eyes of his, I honestly couldn't care less that Changxi was speaking Mandarin while filming, the dubbing is in Cantonese and the mouth movement is not perfectly synced.
When Chusan is literally on the verge of crying while taking care of Liuyi's wounds, I really don't need anything more aside from his face, agonising over the pain and danger the man he loves is in, to feel how much he cares for him.
When Liuyi can't take his eyes off Chusan when that sly fox is giving him a wet shirt show as a part of his mastermind plan to lure the guy in, I don't need a word to be said to see and feel how drawn to Chusan Liuyi is.
So yeah, that's how I can say these two have great chemisty. Even if the dubbing is not in sync 😋
I knew she was a good actress already (basically she's the reason I started watching this drama in the first place), but she's really outdoing herself in here!
I am impressed!
I read that some character's Cantonese is not that good too... (I myself couldn't tell either way, so to me the only challenge was to get over their lips moving "in" Mandarin... 😋)
Oh well, I hope you'll be able not only to push through but to enjoy it regardless.
But yeah, it used to be He Chusan/Xia Liuyi on MDL. Then it suddenly changed one day 😋
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwoO3Qn3YWwnX1gzp1oK6tv7OaaOggi9t
The only "tiny" issue with these videos is that the English subs are not always the most accurate 😅 They're there, and for the most part you can understand what they're talking about, but bear in mind that they're not the best 😋
Xizhao talk about their character's mindsets in certain scenes or how they tried to approach performing them; they point out visual symbolism of particular shots or even share some additional small info (e.g. that Zhao was speaking Cantonese in some of the scenes in the last episode). And you can also clearly see how certain scenes left a really big impact on both of them and how completely immersed they were while watching and reliving them. I even remember Xixi being not so happy with the way dubbing was made in one of his emotional scenes....
So yeah. If you're interested in comments of more in-depth nature about the drama, the reaction videos would be the right place 😌
I think the person above was simply explaining why Chinese series usually are dubbed, e.i. because of how many different dialects there are in China and actors coming from different provinces often have very distinct heavy accents even if they speak Mandarin.
His original mission is to simply deliver the immune to wherever he's supposed to deliver him. The immune needs to be alive. I assume preferably healthy. It would actually be way safer if he just tied Lin Zai up and dragged him all the way to his destination.
The way they're travelling now it's super inefficient and dangerous. Lin Zai already tried to escape twice and also got them into trouble because of his naive nature.
And about him caring less about Lin Zai in the first episodes, I think it's just natural. They barely knew each other. The more time they spent together, the more attached they became.
Besides, you can clearly see that before kidnapping Lin Zai, A Lie was struggling with guilt because of what he was about to do. So I don't think his feelings now are some part of a mysterious masterplan to trick LZ.
Casting for new characters is underway too.
But if you're talking abt actual official announcement - there was none.