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He was mentally unwell too. I thought you said you watched the OG? Then how can you not know that he developed insomnia and severe depression while taking care of his mom? And he did try to talk to her several times about going home. One time he talked to her and she threw away his sneakers that Jianjian gave him, cut up his picture album,took his passport and credentials. Another time she broke his phone so he couldn't even call his dad or anyone back home. Another time she dumped a whole pot of scalding porridge on him. And every time she threatened to kill herself. You really expected him to try to talk to her again after all the things she did every other time he talked to her? The entire time he was taking care of her she was mistreating him. Always yelling and throwing things, guilt tripping him, threatening suicide. That's why he ended up unwell. His mom knew he was unwell but still kept mistreating him which was only going to make his condition worse. But you think he should have stayed there? At some point he had to put himself and his own well being first which is what he did by leaving. He thought if he tried to talk to her again she would just do bad/hurtful things again to make him stay and he would never get out so yes he lied. He was not going to get better staying there so he did what he thought he needed to do to get himself out of that bad and unhealthy situation. Calling him a loser/selfish and hating him for wanting to get out of a situation that was making him mentally unwell is quite honestly crazy to me. Should he have continued to stay there and have his mental state keep deteriorating? I really don't understand how he is a loser and selfish for wanting to go back to the people who he loves and that love him, the people that always brought him happiness to the people and place where he can start to heal and hopefully get better. But she's not a loser and selfish for the horrible way she treated her son. She never showed him love just always abused him to the point he became unwell and then she continued to mistreat him but she gets a pass? Why? Because she is physically and mentally disabled? Yes she went through a lot and lost a lot, yes she is disabled but that does not give her the right and is no excuse to treat her son or anyone like that. My dad is also disabled but he still treats people with respect.

Thank You so much. So excited for their story!!

I was actually wondering the same thing and would love some spoilers if you don't mind.

You're fine. I get it. And of course it would be great if Joke didn't go back to stealing. But it's obvious he would do anything to help Jack and if he thinks it will help Jack he will do it. I'm sure more angst is coming but hopefully won't last long. I am ready for them to have some happy moments.

Jack broke his promise first. He promised Joke that he wouldn't get involved with Boss again but as soon as trouble came that's the first thing he did without speaking to Joke or his grandma first to try to find another solution. So as far as I'm concerned since Jack didn't keep his promise there is absolutely no reason Joke should have to keep his. Besides if Jack had kept his promise and not gotten involved with Boss again would Joke need to go back to stealing? He is clearly doing it to get Jack away from Boss once and for all.

Thanks so much. At first I thought they were gonna finish Earth/Pond completely in episodes 4 and I thought that was odd because no way could they wrap everything up. This makes sense now. I'm excited for Johan/North but my curiosity is getting the better of me about what exactly all happened with Hill/Ter. Thanks again for answering and clearing up my confusion.

That doesn't make any sense though. If they are only focusing on 2 couples this season but Johan/North start on episode 5 that means that they will get 12 episodes while Easter/Hill only get 4. If it's only 2 couples they should get 8 episodes each. Whatever logic they used for this isn't very logical but ok. Someone else had said that it's supposed to be all 4 couples this season 4 episodes each which would make more sense than one couple getting 12 while another gets only 4 but I don't know.

That's true nothing about it seems logical at the moment. And it is annoying and confusing when they only show bits of their story at separate times and even in different episodes and then we have to piece together the bits they have shown us to try to make sense of it. And I'm sure that right now what they have given us is giving us the wrong idea about what happened and making Hill look not so good. Us and Ter seem to be in the same boat confused and misunderstanding things because they have yet to let Hill clarify things. It is very unrealistic. That should have been the first thing they did after meeting again. As far as will they ever, I really hope so they can't just leave that unexplained the whole time can they? I hope it happens soon so Ter and us can finally understand what happened.

Yes obviously we don't know everything yet. I'm just saying if I had sex with someone and then made plans to meet but they didn't show up, didn't call or text me to let me know something happened and they couldn't make it and didn't answer my call I would feel like I had been humped and dumped and would be angry enough to block them. It wouldn't be strange in that situation for Ter to be angry. Of course there could be something else that we don't know yet. But based on what we have been shown Hill didn't show up for Ter (after having sex with him) which doesn't look good. And again I agree he could have had a good reason but they haven't seen/contacted each other in at least a year. Are we really expected to believe that in all that time there was so much going on in Hill's life that he couldn't take 5 minutes to go to Ter and explain? That doesn't seem logical either but of course I'm sure they are gonna have some reason for it. I do agree it is strange that they aren't talking about it. Hill owes Ter and explanation so why isn't Hill giving him one? Ter deserves an explanation so why isn't he asking about it? They are really dragging it out but hopefully will clear that up soon. They need to clear up the things from the past so they can have a fresh start.

But how do we know it was just once though? Just because it only showed him waiting once doesn't mean there weren't other times. They could have just showed us that one time when Easter had gotten fed up of waiting for Hill and decided to block him. I don't know for sure but just seems odd to me that someone would block someone over one time. That seems like something one would do after numerous times of no contact. As you said in a comment above blocking someone after once isn't logical. But even if he did block Hill after just once I can kinda understand given the situation. I mean Hill didn't show up when he was supposed to and didn't answer Ter's call. Maybe he had a good reason but if you have made plans with someone but suddenly can't make it the respectful thing to do is call and text them and let them know that you can't make it. Sure there could have been a good reason why Hill didn't show up and also why he didn't let Ter know ahead of time that he couldn't make it. But putting myself in Ter's shoes they had just had sex and been caught which caused problems. Hill told Ter they would still see each other but then doesn't show up and doesn't answer calls without an explanation. As someone above stated Hill not showing up or answering Ter's calls makes it look like Hill humped and dumped Ter. And even though Ter blocked his number if Hill really wanted to see Ter and explain what happened he could have. He did know where Ter's family business was it showed him helping out and working there and Ter said Hill did that quite often so Hill could have showed up at any time during that year and explained to Ter what happened but he didn't. Is it possible that something could have happened that kept Hill from showing up for a whole year? Sure it's possible, but why he is not explaining whatever happened now that he has the chance? Right now it just seems like he is trying to move on like nothing happened and expecting Ter to do the same and just accept him without any explanation and that is just wrong. But hopefully all of this will get cleared up soon.

You could be right about it being related to Hill's grandma. But whatever the reason was why not tell Easter? Why not clear up the problems and misunderstandings from the past so they can have a fresh start instead of just pursuing Easter and expecting him to accept it as if nothing ever happened. But at the same time if HIll is avoiding it then Easter can be the one to bring it up but for some reason isn't. But I think since Hill is the one that ghosted (maybe with good reason) but still ghosted so it's his responsibility to explain it to Easter.

And I absolutely agree that he was there for Easter and not his sister. And I like your theory just one thing doesn't make sense to me. Easter had apparently made a cocoa for HIll before because Hill said he had improved but Easter didn't remember ever making one for Hill? I believe if I had made a cocoa for my crush I would remember it but maybe that's just me.

Exactly!!!

I agree he doesn't look to be very mad or to hate Hill even though he claims too. I think he is conflicted because it is obvious he still likes Hill, but he is resistant and hesitant because he was hurt in the past and considering what happened how could he not be. He probably wants to be mad and hate hill because of what happened but his feelings of affection are winning out since seeing Hill again. But he is still uncertain about Hill's real feeling and questioning them because of what happened in the past and then Hill doesn't give any explanation and just acts like nothing happened and starts pursuing Ter full force and just expects Ter to trust him and think that he is serious. But it's hard for Ter because he believed in and trusted Hill in the past and was let down and hurt.

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The dream from episode 1 of Ter and Hill having sex wasn't just a dream it was a memory. They had sex Ter confessed and Hill told Ter he was his now implying that they would be together. But it also showed someone open the door and walk in while they were having sex, who walked in is still unknown. In episode 3 in Ter's flashback it showed after they had been caught and they were on the bed hugging and Ter was crying and asking what they should do and would they still see each other. Hill told Ter they would still see each other but then completely cut off contact with Ter. It showed in other flashbacks that Ter was waiting for Hill to show up and waiting for Hill to call or text or to reply to Ter's calls and texts but he never did. Hill hadn't had any contact with Ter since they got caught until they met again at college which was like a year. After a year of no contact of course Ter would be mad. And then Hill to just starts inserting himself in Ter's life and pursuing him after a year of not contact without even an explanation. Like Ter told North Hill is just acting like everything that happened in the past never happened. They had sex together and got caught together but then he just vanished and cut off contact leaving Ter to deal with the fallout on his own. Ter's dad basically abandoned him and told him he was an embarrasement his sister quit talking to him because she also liked Hill. And Ter had to deal with this on his own without any kind of support from Hill who helped cause the problem but then disappeared without any explanation so far. Maybe Hill has a good reason for ghosting Ter but since he hasn't explained it to Ter then Ter is overthinking that Hill isn't serious and never liked him because he abandoned him when he probably needed him most. No wonder Ter is mad. The first thing Hill should have done after seeing Ter again is explain it instead of acting like nothing happened. It's clearly bothering Ter so he needs to speak up and ask Hill.

Here's what I got from it after piecing together what they have given us so far. Ter and Hill were lovers before. In episode 1 the dream that Ter had about them having sex wasn't just a dream it was a memory. When they were having sex Ter confessed to Hill and Hill told Ter that he was his now but then it showed someone walk in the room and caught them but it didn't show who. The same shirts that were laying on the floor during their sex scene were the same shirts they were wearing in Ter's flashback in episode 3 when they were sitting on the bed hugging and Ter was crying and asking what they should do and if they would ever see each other again. This happened after they were caught.

Ter's family found out about him and Hill, it could have been one of them that walked in on them but not sure about that part yet. But in episode 2 it showed Ter's dad yelling at him and telling him it was an embarrassment to have him as a son after finding out about him and Hill and Ter's sister was crying. Ter left home after the argument with his dad and only his mom went after him. It appears he hasn't been home since or spoken to his dad or his sister since. In episode 3 he tells North that Hill likes or used to like his sister (but I don't think that's true because if it was why would he sleep with Ter and call Ter his) but for some reason Ter was convinced that Hill was always hanging around because of his sister. His sister also liked Hill which was very obvious. His sister Liking Hill explains why she was upset about Ter and Hill and why Ter hasn't spoken to her in a while.

The reason Ter kept saying he hated Hill even though he doesn't is because Hill told him they would see each other again and asked Ter to wait for him to which Ter said he would but then Hill cut off all contact. It showed Ter kept waiting for Hill to show up and checking his phone for messages or calls from Hill but nothing for a year. Ter had stated I believe in episode 2 they hadn't had any contact in a year and at that point he thought he would never see Hill again. He was upset because Hill completely cut off contact and just left him hanging for a year but then just starts chasing after Ter again like nothing happened. And as to why he's resisting it's obvious that Ter is uncertain about Hill because for some reason he still thinks that Hill likes/liked his sister although I don't get why after Hill slept with him. And no contact for a year without any explanation could also be making Ter uncertain. He could be thinking that Hill just abandoned him so now is wondering why Hill is pursuing him, if Hill was really that serious with him why would he cut off contact and completely cut Ter from his life for a year. And I think that's kinda valid. I would wonder the same thing.

But as North said Ter is an overthinker if he has concerns or doubts he should just ask Hill. But also Hill shouldn't just go full force with pursuing Ter without giving Ter an explanation about why there was no contact for a year. They had sex together, they got caught together but then Hill just vanished for a year leaving Ter alone to deal with the fall out. Not that Hill would be able to do much to help with Ter's family situation but he could have been there for emotional support for Ter but he wasn't. That's why Ter told North he was hurt in the past. So I can understand why Ter is resistent. Of course there could be a good reason that Hill just disappeared but Hill hasn't said and Ter hasn't asked.

Hopefully all of this will get explained soon. I hope this helps clear up some of your confusion. For me all I don't know is who walked in on them, why Hill had no contact for so long and did he ever actually like Ter's sister. But I do agree that I don't think they will complete their story in 4 episodes.

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That girl isn't Easter's sister she is a senior of his from high school. Her name is Thunmild. As for why Easter doesn't like her it hasn't really explained. It just showed that she was close to Hill in high school so maybe Easter thinks there is something between Hill and Thunmild? She was mentioned in episode one also when Easter was going out to eat with HIll, Peem and Bua. Bua asked Hill if Thunmild was joining them for dinner and Hill said no. Easter's face then looked like he was bothered by the mention of her name. She now also goes to the same university with Easter and Hill and for some reason Easter was very uncomfortable with her. Hopefully find out more about that next episode. He told in the first episode that his sister's name is Christmas and in episode 2 when talking to his mom on the phone he asked her how Chris was short for Christmas. You might be right about there being tension and issues between him and his sister as well though since he did say he hadn't spoken to her in a while. But these are 2 different girls. Hopefully we will get some clarification soon on what the issue is between both him and his sister and him and Thunmild.

Thanks so much for answering and for looking into that. That is interesting. We don't have to do that here. We just have to study a book of the rules and laws of driving and take a test on it, then if you pass that test you take a driving test with an instructor. They check to see if you are obeying all the rules while driving. If you pass both tests then you get your license. The only thing medical involved with us getting a license is if we have any medical issues that can affect our driving it can prevent us from getting a license. Thanks again.

I hope this doesn't come across as rude because I'm really not trying to be, I'm just curious. In Thailand is it required for someone to know first aid to be able to get a driver's license? I'm a westerner and here we don't have to know first aid to get a driver's license. If there is an accident we call the emergency number and they tell us how to do first aid until the ambulance gets there. So I'm really just curious. I think it's interesting to learn about the differences between different countries and cultures.