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You're welcome and yes i am sure that it will be a happy ending.

It's not just that they can't see each other for 4 months. They were also being forced to lie in a press conference and say that they didn't have a relationship and had no feelings for each other at all. And Sib was supposed to pretend that him and Aoey are a thing to get more viewers for the show. I wouldn't want to deny and lie about my relationship for anyone or anything and then on top of it to pretend to be in a relationship with someone i didn't like, nope that wouldn't work.

Plus Gene broke up with Sib not because they couldn't see each other for 4 months but because Sib said that if the company tried to force them to do that he would terminate his contract. If he terminated his contract he would have to pay a huge penalty and then would also be unemployed. But his contract expires in 4 months at which point Sib can walk away freely. He can choose not to renew his contract and choose to walk away from acting if that's what he wants to do. But if Sib terminates his contract it won't only affect him, it will affect everyone that has worked on the series, as well as Gene and Hin. If Sib terminates his contract it would affect the book sales and hurt Gene's and Hin's careers. Gene was thinking about all of that and trying to do the responsible thing.

But clearly Gene was upset and didn't think things through all the way because breaking up really doesn't help anything. Because even though they broke up Sib can still terminate his contract if he wants, he is rich so the penalty doesn't really matter to him. Plus he said him self that he never actually wanted to be an actor he just did it to get close to Gene, and he can always work in his father's company or i'm sure find some other job. And Sib seems to only care about Gene and himself he's waited so long and done so much to be with Gene and he just wants to be with him no matter what. But he isn't really thinking about the other people it will affect. If Sib terminates his contract only 2 things can happen the series either gets stopped or postponed. If the series gets stopped it would affect all the other actors, directors, producers, Tum and all the other managers, the tv station as well as Hin and Gene. If it gets postponed they would have to find a new actor and film all of Sib's scenes over again and redo all promotional ads and posters because they wouldn't be able to use anything with Sib in it. Plus if any of the other actors, directors or producers had other projects to work on and couldn't stay on this series they would have to be replaced as well. So Sib terminating his contract early would affect so many people and so many things. But if Sib doesn't terminate his contract and waits the 4 months for it to expire they are still going to force him to lie about his and Gene's relationship and pretend to be with Aoey for 4 months until his contract ends. The whole situation is a mess, but breaking up isn't going to fix it or help it.

What i don't understand is how can they legally force Sib to do anything if it wasn't even in his contract. I know it's the industry and it should be "implied." But if Sib wanted to sue i don't think that the company would win because it isn't written in his contract and he never signed anything saying he wouldn't be in a relationship during the series. If it isn't written in his contract and signed by him they shouldn't be able to force him to separate from Gene or lie about his relationship or anything at least not legally. At least that's what i think maybe i am wrong about that.

I'm not saying they weren't reckless they were warned and they weren't careful that is on them. And yes Gene did the right thing as much as it sucks but if he hadn't it would have hurt innocent people. My problem with it all is the industry shouldn't be like that. Actors are people too who also deserve to have a life and love and have their privacy they shouldn't have to let their entire lives be controlled just because they are actors it isn't right or fair. You are absolutely right the expectations of the fans needs to change the industry needs to change. Actors shouldn't have to exchange or give up their love or happiness just because they are actors. And they shouldn't have to give up acting just to have a relationship they should be allowed to have both. But i know my opinion doesn't really matter and won't change anything. But it is really unfair to the actors, and the fans that have expectations of actors other then them doing their job and acting should be ashamed of themselves. Why do the fans get to have normal lives but because of their expectations actors do not. It really does need to change.

Whatever you say lol!!! Do you realize that you contradicted yourself more than once. Seriously go back and read your own comments.

First comment and i quote "Aoey's not an evil at all in the novel"

Second comment: He's much worse in the series. In the novel he never made the playing-victim video.

Third comment: "In the novel Aoey is evil in this he's not."

LOL!!! That is comical do you even know what you are talking about. You went from he's not evil at all in the novel, to he's worse in the series, then to he's evil in the novel but not in the series. So which one is it? Because it can't be all of those. How can he be not evil in the novel and evil in the novel both? How can he be worse in the series but not evil in the series? Those were your words. You are really something, you accused me earlier of saying something i didn't say when you don't even make any sense and keep contradicting yourself then you want to be a smart ass with me. Well i can play that game too, maybe you should figure out what you are saying before you write down stuff and just keep contradicting yourself making it look like you have no idea what the heck you are talking about. I rest my case.

But why does that affect the airing date? I can understand if they were still filming because obviously they can't film if the virus is getting worse. But if it has already been filmed then why can't it just be aired. Other Thai shows have been airing and some are still airing now even with the new wave of covid. So i guess i just don't understand if some shows can still air why can't this one? But if it has to be delayed i hope it isn't too long and i hope everyone involved in the project is safe.

Thank you for your excellent point as well. You are absolutely right when does the insanity end. Actors shouldn't have to go through that just because they want to be an actor. They are still people who deserve to have their personal life as well and deserve happiness. They shouldn't have to give that up just because they are actors. And like you said just waiting out the 4 months doesn't confront or solve the bigger issue, because even if they were to wait out the 4 months id Sib decided to remain an actor they would still want to control his personal life they still wouldn't want him being in a relationship especially if he continued doing BL's.

It's a shame that actors have to go through that even in real life sometimes, just because they have a dream and want to be an actor. So it is basically a choice between give up their dream or give up having love which is incredibly wrong. It is terrible that the industry is like that and is so unfair. I do feel for Nubsib and Gene though because i understand Nubsib not wanting to let them control him not wanting to lie about loving Gene. But i also get Gene worrying and thinking about all the other people who's jobs/careers it would affect and really thinking that breaking up was the best way to solve it. But really he just gave them what they want and it still doesn't really solve anything. Because they are still going to lie and say that Nubsib and Gene never had a relationship and try to make it look like Nubsib and Aoey are together. And Nubsib and Gene both are going to be hurt and unhappy. The only people who will win is the industry.

True they would be able to see each other again. The main problem with it for me is them having to lie in the press conference and deny their relationship and for Sib to have to pretend to be into Aoey just to get viewership, it is so messed up. If it were you would you want to announce publicly to the world that you are not with your partner and that you don't love them and pretend to be in love with someone else just because your boss asked you to do so. That is what is ridiculous is that they would even ask Sib and Gene to do that. I would never work for anyone who would ask me to do such a thing, it is not appropriate or right in any way.

Not necessarily, Sib's contract expires in 4 months and at that point he can choose to not sign another contract and just walk away from acting and be able to do whatever he wants with his life. Or he could choose to act in other types of series other than BL's where him having a partner won't matter as much. Sib said he didn't even want to be an actor to begin with he only did it because Gene wrote that series and he wanted to get close to Gene.Plus Nubsib is rich and can always work in his father's company. So walking away from acting won't be a big thing for Sib if he chooses to do so. Gene was the one who didn't want Sib to give up his career or terminate the contract because Sib would have to pay a huge penalty for terminating the contract whereas if he waits till it expires he can just walk away free.

I agree with Valerie waiting the 4 months till Sib's contract expires to see each other, although not ideal and maybe hard, they could still talk and text or skype. The big issue and problem is wanting Sib to lie in the press conference and deny his relationship and to lie and make fans think that him and Aoey are a thing. That is just so wrong.

I guess you consider me saying if he isn't evil he is pretty darn close to mean that i think he isn't evil. Well that is incorrect i do think he is evil or at least borderline. The other person is the one who said he wasn't evil and i asked them how wasn't he evil which clearly implies that i do in fact think he is evil. I even pointed out all the things that he has done that i think makes him evil. I wasn't sure about the novel because i haven't read the whole thing only what i was able to find in English and spoilers here and there. So i wasn't sure if Aoey had maybe done some evil things in the novel that i hadn't read. But as for the series i never said the words that he wasn't evil .I even went back and read my previous comments a couple of times, and nope still never saw anywhere that i said the words "he isn't evil". Maybe you should go back and read my previous comments and not accuse me of saying things that i didn't say. Thank You.

How exactly is it not ridiculous? Yes i understand it is only 4 months and they could still talk and text and skype even if they couldn't see each other. But Sib was also told he had to lie at the press conference and deny that him and Gene were together and say that him and Gene had no feelings for each other. I mean it's one thing to ask them to not be seen together, but to ask someone to publicly deny their love for someone is just 100% wrong. Especially for Sib and Gene. Sib who has loved Gene for years been through so much and did everything he possibly could to be with him and finally did get to be with him. And Gene who has been struggling with accepting his own self and his feelings for Sib was finally able to do so and even managed to be brave enough to stand up to his parents to be able to be with Sib. And now they are supposed to just lie and deny their love to the world, and Sib was supposed to lie and say that him and Aoey were a couple just to get more viewership for the series. Umm Hell No. I wouldn't get up and publicly deny the person that i loved and claim to love and be in a relationship with someone i wasn't. If they wanted me to do that i would have been just like Sib and wanted out of that contract. I didn't agree with the breakup but i get why Gene did it. Them being together was going to affect the series, Sib's job, the jobs of everyone working on the series and at the studio and also Gene and Hin's jobs. And yes they could have just stayed apart for the 4 months but again they would have had to lie and completely deny their relationship and if they are broken up then they don't have to lie.

And technically it wasn't even in Sib's contract that he couldn't be in a relationship. I know it is supposed to be "implied" because he is an actor. But it still should have been in his contract for it to be legally binding. I highly doubt that if Sib wanted to sue and take them to court over it that they would win because it wasn't in his contract. They can't legally hold him to something or force him to do something that wasn't in his contract.

He does lie in the novel about liking Sib and he tries to manipulate Gene and pulls the viagra prank just as on the show. To me that's pretty close to being evil. I mean who pulls a prank about drugging someone that is not normal behavior.

But my point wasn't even about that really it's how they keep defending Aoey even saying he hasn't lied or manipulated and has been forthright. I mean have they even been watching the same series lol!! It was clearly told and revealed in episode 9 that Aoey lied to Gene about liking Sib. He literally admitted to Gene himself that he doesn't like Nubsib and confessed his feelings for Gene not once but twice. So how is that not lying? and how is that being forthright? When from the very beginning he repeatedly told Gene he liked Sib, and then boom all of a sudden in episode 9 he likes Gene. I don't know how anyone could consider that not a lie.

He told Gene that he liked Sib when he actually likes Gene how is that not a lie? How is that not manipulating Gene into believing what he wants him to believe? How is that him being forthright? Being forthright would be him telling Gene from the start that he liked him and trying to win Gene's love honestly instead of lying and saying he liked Sib. What purpose was there for him to even lie about liking Sib except to try and manipulate Gene into staying away from Sib so Aoey can try to have Gene. If you watched episode 9 you would know that Aoey has been lying to Gene from the start, Aoey literally confessed to Gene that he actually likes him and not Sib. He confesses to Gene not once but twice. But yet you are still saying that he didn't lie or try to manipulate Gene. All of this was also of course revealed in the novel, you somehow knew that Aoey's character was evil in the novel but you didn't know this? Or maybe you just don't want to accept it because Aoey is your favorite character but facts are facts he also lied and tried to manipulate Gene. If not he never would have said he liked Sib when he didn't.

How exactly is Aoey not evil? If he isn't evil he is pretty darn close. I mean he lied and manipulated Gene (just like Sib). Yet you called Sib a psycho for lying and manipulating Gene and said lying is wrong no matter the reason so how is it not wrong when Aoey did it? How come when Sib did it he was a psycho but when Aoey does it it's ok? And not to mention Aoey lied about drugging Sib and called it a prank and then today posted that live he knew what he was doing. He was jealous or mad or whatever because Gene chose Sib and not him and wanted to break them up and he got what he wanted.

And also yes they can change some things from the novel Sib is also worse in the novel, But they can't change everything they have to keep the main points of the novel or else they can't say that it is adapted from the novel. Changing the personality of the characters a little bit doesn't change the main points so they can do that. But the breakup is a main point and a big part of the story so of course they would keep that part. I don't agree with it though, i think it could have been handled differently. They could have just kept their distance for 4 months, or for that matter Gene could have just let Sib terminate his contract after all Sib didn't want to be an actor in the first place he just did it because of Gene.

Actually Sib got consent twice first he told Gene he didn't have to force himself which is a form of consent, because he was basically telling Gene don't do it if you are not comfortable. And Gene's response to this was that he was not forcing himself. Then the second time Sib told Gene if he wasn't ready that he (Sib) would wait. So how exactly does that not count as getting consent twice? I have watched it multiple times, each week after the new episode i go back and watch them all from the beginning (I'm a little obsessed). So i have seen this particular episode 3 times already and all 3 times i've seen Sib getting consent twice.

And your statement about Gene thinking his boyfriend has been taken advantage of and isn't in his right mind isn't even relevant here concerning Sib asking consent, because again Sib knew nothing about the supposed drugging. So when he asked for consent he didn't know that Gene thought he had been taken advantage of. You are so hung up on Sib chasing Gene around the room and how Gene said no or don't come here but let me ask you something if it truly bothered Gene couldn't he have just left? He just stayed there and kept letting Sib chase him around so even though he ran and said no he couldn't have been too bothered, but that's just my opinion.

Gene was clearly already interested in it though is the point or why else would he have searched it online? Was he interested in it because he thought Sib had been taken advantage of yes probably but that isn't Sib's fault that is Aoey's fault for lying that Sib had been drugged. We could even argue that maybe it was also Gene's fault for not mentioning the potential drugging to Sib. All Gene had to do was ask Sib if he was having any of the effects of Viagra, but he didn't do that he instead chose to look up about first times and was willing to do it to help Sib out because he believed he was drugged. Sure Gene got a little nervous and shy after that, and Sib may have taken his playfulness too far. But Gene did give consent whether it was just because he believed Sib had been drugged or not he still gave consent. And again that would be Aoey's fault not Sib's, Aoey is the one who convinced Gene that Sib was drugged. To keep blaming Sib for everything is wrong because if Gene had told Sib about it then things may not have turned out the way they did. All you are seeing is Gene's perspective but you also have to look at it from Sib's perspective. He didn't know Gene thought he was drugged all he knew was his boyfriend looked up about first times online and so he thought that Gene wanted to do it, wouldn't anyone in that situation think the same. Yes maybe he should have talked to Gene though about it to make sure before he started being all playful and yes he may have taken the playfulness too far but he really thought that Gene wanted to do it but was just too shy. They both were guilty here for not communicating better Sib should have talked to Gene after seeing what he searched online. And Gene also should have told Sib that Aoey said he drugged him. And Aoey is the most guilty one in this situation because if not for that lie none of it would have happened including Sib chasing Gene around the room so if you want to blame someone why not blame the person who started it all with the lie.

Sib definitely didn't know about the drugs it was told in the novel. Plus if he had been trying to manipulate Gene by pretending to be drugged wouldn't he have been acting that way the whole time? But he wasn't he only started acting that way after he saw that Gene had looked up about first times, and so he thought that Gene wanted to do it. Therefore Sib was being playful trying to get things started because he knew Gene was too shy. Gene was nervous and perhaps having second thoughts hence his running away, but if he was truly against it and did not want to do it he just had to say. Sib did give him chances to back out by telling Gene not to force himself and that if he wasn't ready that he (Sib) would wait. That is not manipulation he literally got consent, if Gene had said no at any point Sib would have stopped he always respects Gene's boundaries. I personally think that there isn't anything wrong with being a little playful, plus Gene didn't really seem to mind. Yes he ran and said don't come here but yet he stayed. He stayed and kept letting Sib chase him around the room, and the last time he didn't even try to run he stood there while Sib came across the bed and then they ended up on the couch. Then he literally pushed Sib onto the bed and took control, so it doesn't seem like he really minded, in fact Sib's playfulness gave Gene the courage to take control.

In the novel they did break up but they get back together. So next episode we should see them have a reunion.

They were just following the novel, in the novel that is what happened so of course it happened on the show. But i agree it didn't need to happen, i don't know why the author made them break up.

True Sib has always respected Gene and his boundaries and i agree that Gene making that decision shows growth. I also know that it was implied that he shouldn't date i just still think it all sucks lol. I hated seeing them go through that. The industry shouldn't be that way even actors should be allowed to have a personal and private life of their choosing.

And you definitely weren't the only one frustrated. Poor Hin he didn't say anything to Gene about breaking up with Sib even though it could hurt his career because Gene is his friend and he knew it wasn't fair, but it's not fair for Hin either to have his career affected. I'm glad Gene read Hin's novel and took it to Bua who knows if she will read it though, and i'm guessing Gene didn't figure out it was about him and Sib lol. And didn't like the way Tum's sister or Tiffy treated him, how is it his fault? I don't care for any of the women either, didn't mind Tiffy at first but the last few episodes i can't stand her. And as for Aoey i like the way you think lol!!!

Hopefully episode 12 will not only show us a Sib Gene reunion but will also show us Aoey getting what he deserves.

Ok i watched it and definitely went through a lot of tissues. Not gonna lie i cried like a baby. I get the 4 month thing now because that's how long Sib has left on his contract and after it expires they can be together. Still think that is crazy considering there was nothing about Sib not being able to date or anything in his contract so they shouldn't have been able to say anything to him. And Gene promised to get through it together but then didn't keep his promise. And why did Sib just let Gene walk out of the apartment and not go after him. This episode was both sad and frustrating. But now that i understand their reason for being apart for 4 months i am excited for the next episode and can't wait to see their reunion. Also excited and glad we are getting a special.