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Replying to moonfolk Sep 21, 2025
Seeing how you framed your words, I guess that it's targeted to me.We saw what was shown on the screen. So I am…
1. I think you lack reading comprehension skill here. I'm saying "It's a dating show" as a reason why he is allowed to explore connections with different girls at the same time btw and thats it. But also, he is just another human being in that house facing things he never did before or ever would in the outside world, yes you can judge him all you want thats the game but i'm just trying to offer a different insight of trying to understand where he came from just in case somebody is also open to it. (Also to let people know not to trust the editing of the production team too much). I've always watched dating shows as a purpose of trying to understand how human beings act, not to only judge them, and i believe there is someone out there who is just the same. If its not for you, thats okay too.

2. Of course i'm leaning on the "we aren't seeing the whole picture, its the editing who fcks up" team cause i actually saw the BTS clips and this is actually not the first time this happened. The couples from S2 and S6 explicitly said their scenes were manipulated, its not news to those who have watched the show closely. They don't just amplify things, they maliciously removed cut hid and edit scenes. One of the example was the one i mentioned on my original post where the show tried to edit it as if yuan was following lechen to see ailin when in fact she was the first one who was looking for ailin (ep 2). People were calling yuan names for it but netizens caught their lie bcs it was a messy edit and the show had to come forth with the original unedited version (as a BTS clip mind you) to appease the masses. So yeah, i have seen first hand how the show editing could really manipulate "someone's vibe". So i would rather not judge them too harshly knowing the production team could do such a thing after seeing concrete proof of it happening and also with testimonies from previous seasons' casts.

3. You're making it as if he never actually own up to his "responsibilty" and "accountability". He eventually did, didn't he? He was just too overwhelmed in that point in time to "properly" handle the situation the way you see it fit in that short of amount of time and pressure. It is a very humane thing in my opinion. Who has never slip up in their life anyway? Also, he learned from it and actually faced it head on the NEXT day. That one slip up does not make him a bad person, he is flawed yes but not a bad person. Again, babying him or defending him, i would rather do so then judging him too harshly knowing full well he is just another human being that i didn't even know in real life where all i see of him is in a very heavily edited show. But you do you.

4. Never stated that he is so perfect nothing is his fault btw. I clearly stated he has his own shortcomings on my earlier reply. He IS a flawed human being. Its never a denial to me because i understand where he comes from, so it is indeed empathy for me as i'm also a flawed human being. Opening up to his POV could be a different experience for different people. I see where he came from and things he could improve on, you see where he should be criticized. Again you do you. Also, it is true that the show is heavily edited and manipulated, we never get to see the whole story so there is no 'real' reality to twist actually, the one we see is already 'twisted'.

5. Where do you get the impression that i'm mad at you for not buying it? Never did. I'm just trying to give an explaination to those who are actually open-minded to it. Thank you though for giving me a chance to explain it further so some others who might be can see a different point of view too.
Replying to moonfolk Sep 21, 2025
Title Heart Signal Season 8 Spoiler
Seeing how you framed your words, I guess that it's targeted to me.We saw what was shown on the screen. So I am…
1. I'm so sorry but if you have this mindset, i don't think you should be watching a dating show. Like is this your first time with a show like this? None of them are "dating" yet especially when its just their first week there. No one owns anyone. Its perfectly fine to explore both connections at the same time, both Ailin and Yuan are great people but the time is limited for Lechen. It's completely different from real life. No need to focus on one person from the get go, it is a DATING SHOW. NOT REAL LIFE. Exploring is literally has been a concept in a dating show since forever.

2. You're talking about his job. Ailin is just a girl he realized he doesn't like. The weights are different. Let's just say the guy has priorities and Ailin isn't one. Also, at the end of the day, he still faced Ailin eventually on his own term, no? He still fulfilled his so called "responsibility". He might be slightly crooked on his way there (not in the right state of mind, overwhelmed, the cameras, etc which is perfectly understandable imo as another human being) but he learned his lesson and got there eventually. So kudos to him.

3. Thank you, we can agree to disagree. Some people just have different upbringings and you wouldn't be able to see it from his point of view if you have never went through the shit he did so thats okay. I'm just trying to understand him as fellow human being who went through similar things. Also i've said several times, we didn't get to see the whole picture so i would rather try to understand him then to judge him.

4. I think you are right. I'm trying to say what he did is understandable, not that it was "morally" right but also we didn't get to see the whole picture so i (personally) wouldn't rush to judge whats right and wrong on such a delicate matter. Though i would quote Mr. Xu Minghao (THE8, one of the panelist) here, "going down is the more respectful thing to do, but not going down is also right." - but yeah each to their own.
Replying to moonfolk Sep 21, 2025
Title Heart Signal Season 8 Spoiler
Seeing how you framed your words, I guess that it's targeted to me.We saw what was shown on the screen. So I am…
1. Why would it be worse? It's a dating show, no one is entitled to anyone yet especially at the beginning. Lechen is perfectly allowed to explore his compatibility with different people at beginning of the show, isn't that the purpose of a dating show?

3. Again, i already agreed he has his shortcomings. And in my original post AND my reply above, i only meant the misjudgement he faced caused by the way the production team edited the show. (example: hiding his interactions with Yuan which resulted in a main-episodes only viewer like you mistaking that it was only Yuan who gives while he only receives).

4. I personally think it is very normal for a human being to be too overwhelmed to consider responsibility nor courage nor basic manners while you're not in your right state of mind, like what human hasn't, right? Also like i mentioned again and again, we are not seeing the whole picture. But, alas, if you are not open to seeing it from his point of view and try to understand him, i have nothing more to say.
Replying to Uvimolla Sep 21, 2025
Title Heart Signal Season 8 Spoiler
We are only commenting on what we watch and its not that deep
And i'm simply just trying to give another point of view on the show. In case, somebody would like to know. You are free to think what you want though, i'm just commenting on what i watch the same way the others do :)
Replying to moonfolk Sep 20, 2025
Title Heart Signal Season 8 Spoiler
Seeing how you framed your words, I guess that it's targeted to me.We saw what was shown on the screen. So I am…
1. Never said it was not a mutual approach between ailin and lechen. Only meant to explain that it was not "yuan did the giving and lechen only receiving", it was also a mutual approach between them (again showed mostly through BTS clips + as flashbacks before they hit the button). I'm not blaming you as i understand people who only watch the main episodes wouldn't get it, i'm just trying to explain it in case some people DO want an explaination or at least open to it.

2. It might be me not putting proper mark on there resulting in your misunderstanding, what i mean to say is that wang jue said she realizes she wasn't lechen's priority and then implied his priorities were yuan AND ailin (through hand gestures) - clip: https://x.com/girlseayou/status/1955198006472609961

It was only ruilong who told jiao his guess that it would be yuan and lechen who would be pushing that button first (which needs both parties to mutually do it) - clip: https://x.com/girlseayou/status/1955198006472609961

3. And who out of the casts wouldn't think they realized they have shortcomings needing to be fix/improve after watching themselves in third pov? Ofc everyone would. I'm not saying lechen is perfect he has his shortcomings, i'm just saying there might be unwarranted misjudgement he received caused by the way the production team edited the show.

4. If he is yet to come to a decision on how it should be said, what should he even said to ailin then? He could still be confused on how to face her. It might not be easy for him to impulsely decide what to do right there and then. People seemed to forget, lechen spent almost half his life not being able to talk at all because of his traumatic upbringing. I fully understand he could handle it better but that day the guy is exhausted from cooking and meeting the female casts' family members all day after work. He might not be in the right state of mind. He is human after all (with a lot of traumas too).

Also could you direct me where in my original post, did i 'blame shifting' it to ailin? I just implied that there could be another side of the story we didn't get to see seeing the track record of the production team way of editing. Also i get both ailin AND lechen btw. They are both human beings in that cabin trying their best. No hard feelings towards anybody for me.

5. I'm glad you agreed with the last part tho.
On Heart Signal Season 8 Sep 19, 2025
Title Heart Signal Season 8 Spoiler
just want to write my opinion here.

i saw a comment saying lechen and ailin was mutual approach while yuan only give and lechen receive. but this is wrong. the show only let you see his interactions with ailin but lechen was also interacting with yuan (wang jue literally said she noticed that lechen's priorities were yuan & ailin + ruilong guessed leyuan would be the first to go on the trial love trip ALL on ep 2).

the production team was just hiding lechen & yuan interaction and packaging it for BTS clips and voting poll benefit clips. (blame the production team, they did the same thing with that couple from S6) its so unfortunate because most viewers dont watch those which lead to people misjudging lechen.

remember how they edited it as if yuan was following lechen to find ailin when she is actually the first one to seek ailin but thankfully the netizens noticed so the show have to release the unedited version to appease the backlash? yeah this showed the production team's intention clearly. they highlighted lechen's interaction with ailin while downplaying his and yuan's for the "shock value" when he did finally choose yuan.

also about the whole not going down for walking the dog. i need people to realize, we don't really know how long ailin was waiting, its possible lechen wanted to let jiao go and tell her but he is yet to come to the decision on how it should be said before ailin came up first.

the show would only let you see what they wanted you to see. i would suggest restraining oneself from judging ANY contestant too harshly based on a heavily edited show which has time and time again proved they just wanted to create drama for traffics in regards of the casts' well-being.
Replying to cakesoaked Feb 14, 2025
Title When It Rains, It Pours Spoiler
—Futtara Doshaburi— (part 2)Sei & Hagiwara starts hanging out together again but never just the two of them.…
You are not alone :( They're sooo cute in Mellow Rain, their dating era is so full of fluff compared to how angsty Futtara Doshaburi is eventhough both books' lengths are similar ;') (Maybe a season 2? *me being delusional ;_;)

Also it would be great if you marked your reply as spoiler since for others they might not want to know whether its happy / sad ending yet. Thank you!
Replying to cakesoaked Feb 14, 2025
Title When It Rains, It Pours Spoiler
Since i reckon a lot of people are emotional about the newest episode and some are anxious about the ending, i…
—Futtara Doshaburi— (part 2)

Sei & Hagiwara starts hanging out together again but never just the two of them. They always asked Adachi (their co-worker) to third-wheel lol

One day while eating out tgt, Adachi told Hagiwara that Sei's new house is quite an old building and that Sei needs help with the renovation. At first, Hagiwara & Sei are hesitant since both of them are wary about being alone with only the two of them (oh they know something might escalates way too quickly if so lol) but at the end Hagiwara still offered to help and Sei shyly agrees.

They agreed to have Hagiwara visit Sei's house on Saturday through e-mail. Hagiwara deliberately lied that he has to see his parents on Sunday so Sei wouldn't worry that he would stay overnight (...since something might happen).

Hagiwara is just so...adorable. So considerate. He was so excited about exchanging emails with Sei. His hearts flutters even with a simple email. Yet, he wasn't sure what to do. He only knows he likes Sei but he doesn't know how Sei feels. He doesn't know whether Sei wants more like he does or just wants to go back to their previous 'casual' relationship. He thinks to himself that Sei probably needs more time and it's better for him to move slowly.

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When Hagiwara was on his way to Sei's new house, he bought a whole watermelon. Sei was surprised (and confused? like who would eat them all? but later it would be used as the 'lame' excuse for Hagiwara to stay overnight so he can help Sei finish them all lol).

Since Sei just moved, he doesn't even have a big enough vessel to store the watermelon (it was too big for the fridge) so he and Hagiwara ended up going out to buy a basin to put it in. When they were on their way back after getting basin/tray, it started raining. They both ended up using the tray to shield themselves from the rain instead lolol

Then while they are both hiding themselves under the tray, Hagiwara stole a kiss from Sei and confesses his feelings for him. Sei didn't hear it over the sound of the pouring rain but he could guess from reading Hagiwara's lips movement. After that, Sei put his forehead on Hagiwara's shoulder and said,

"I thought it didn't matter anymore now."
"I thought if I let it you have a cool down period to a certain extent, you might think that your feelings for me are nothing special...."

Which Hagiwara replied, "Impossible."

And they went back home. Hagiwara stripped down then threw his rain-wet clothes in the dryer, Sei waited sitting on his bed. They started kissing.

And you can guess what happened afterwards ;)

Also, Hagiwara asked Sei for the answer to his confession earlier—right after they both just reached c****x (yes, Hagiwara is gentle yet a menace at the same time)

Sei: "You want me to answer now?"

Hagiwara: "It’ll be hard to refuse now."

Sei: "Idiot."

Sei, stretched out his arms and hugged Hagiwara's back, and replied, "I like you."

They then touched foreheads, Sei said, "Even if you get tired of me, don’t get tired of my body."

Hagiwara: "Shouldn't it be the other way around?"

Yet, Hagiwara understands what Sei meant.

Hagiwara ended up sleeping overnight at Sei's, and yeah, he didn't do any of those "help with the renovation" they were planning at the beginning.

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Note:

1. This is the end of the main story of Futtara Doshaburi. There is a very short epilogue too but I don't really understand where exactly does it happened in the timeline of the story so I omitted it.

2. For the steamy scenes, you can contact me on twitter @qilinlord if you want to know ;)

3. The last scene here continues to the beginning of the spin-off novel, Mellow Rain. Will put the Mellow Rain spoiler when I got time!
Replying to cakesoaked Feb 14, 2025
—Futtara Doshaburi— (part 1)-----------------------------------(After Hagiwara broke up with Kaori) "He returned…
its from the novel! but i didn't translate them word by word cause it would be too long~ so only a summary.

for more info i read futtara doshaburi through its official korean translation version in ridibooks ^^
Replying to BhanukaFelix Feb 14, 2025
what would be happen in the last episode?could someone tell me ?as we can predict the future as drama lovers
i posted the novel spoiler for the last episode~ you can check a few comments below
Replying to cakesoaked Feb 14, 2025
Title When It Rains, It Pours Spoiler
—Futtara Doshaburi— (part 1)-----------------------------------(After Hagiwara broke up with Kaori) "He returned…
Me too! I actually hope they include the part i called part 2. At least we can get a bit of lovey dovey after all the angsts.
Replying to cakesoaked Feb 14, 2025
Title When It Rains, It Pours Spoiler
Since i reckon a lot of people are emotional about the newest episode and some are anxious about the ending, i…
—Futtara Doshaburi— (part 1)
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(After Hagiwara broke up with Kaori)

"He returned home and threw himself on the bed.

The person he likes.

He was surprised by the words he had said himself.

Yes, I indeed like him—Nakarai-san. But that person is a man, and the person that Nakarai-san likes is another Kazuaki, and right now (his affection for me was only because) he may just be blinded by sexual desire…

There are many things that can prove it wrong. But I do like him. Isn’t it freedom to be delusional on your own?

Yes, I am alone. Lying on the single bed, I felt like crying a little, but I made up my mind to let it go because it was raining hard outside."

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(Hagiwara really likes Sei... poor my little puppy licking his wounds all alone finally realizing his own feelings yet he thought the person he likes doesn't like him back ;_;)

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Hagiwara & Sei ended up leaving both their 'partners' and choose to live alone on their own. Sei found out about Hagiwara moving house after Hagiwara registered his change of address to the company (Sei, as the general admin manager, knows). At first, Sei thought Hagiwara might have broken up with Kaori but there's also the possibility that they are about to get married and are moving to a bigger house.

Sei confirmed his doubt after Adachi (co-worker of Sei & Hagiwara) told him about Hagiwara-Kaori break up. Sei felt his heart flutters when he heard this, he really misses Hagiwara. Yet, he also thought it was his fault that they broke up. Sei wanted to do something, to know what exactly happened but he doesn't know what to do since he is the one who cut ties with Hagiwara first. Very harshly too.

One day, Sei found a business card on his desk. It was Hiraiwa's (Sei's friends from uni that he met when he went out with Hiragawa). Hagiwara had left it there.

Turns out, Hagiwara have been visiting the restaurant they visited that day frequently. He was hoping to meet Hiraiwa again—not even knowing whether its possible nor how long it would take him—just to get Hiraiwa's number so he could help Hiraiwa & Sei communicate again. It wasn't explicitly said, but i'm guessing Hagiwara wanted Hiraiwa to be friends with Sei again so Sei could have someone to talk to now that Hagiwara can't (since Sei cut ties with him). Hagiwara might also be worried about Sei (with the bruises and stuff) so he wished Hiraiwa could be there for Sei and help him since he himself can't.

(....tears rolling. the boy got rejected and ignored yet still went above and beyond trying to help the person he likes... Hagiwara is trully a good guy. I'm literally crying remembering this, i could feel his love for Sei. And I'm not alone since Sei was also holding back his tears when he found out about this.)

Sei thought he might have started liking Hagiwara since that day they went out to eat together when Hagiwara assured Sei that it wasn't his fault that he stopped contacting Hiraiwa. He must have started having feelings for Hagiwara far before he even realizes it himself.

"I miss Hagiwara. I want to call him, send him an email, have a drink with him, kiss him, have s*x with him, lean on each other and listen to the rain. I want to say I like him. I want to hear him says he likes me." —Nakarai Sei

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On the last day of the rainy season, it was raining. Hagiwara was standing in front of the company's entrance but realizes he got no umbrella. When he is just about to rush through it to buy one from the convenience store, he felt an umbrella atop him and someone behind him. *winkwink* GUESS WHO~ Yes, it's Nakarai Sei.

They have come full circle, the scene reminiscing of when it was Hiragawa who offers Sei an umbrella to shield him from the pouring rain, now it is Sei's turn.

Here, Sei told Hagiwara he moved to a new house of his own. Hagiwara told him the same. They each wanted to know the story why each moved but both only answered with "its a long story" lol

At the end, Hagiwara said to Sei, "First, please tell me your email address."

This time it's not a mistake. Hagiwara wanted to start all over again, on the right track this time.

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Note: This is one of the possibilty of where the drama would probably end (I might be wrong). There is more of the main story but I'm not sure whether the drama would include it. The rest of the story is in part 2 below.
On When It Rains, It Pours Feb 14, 2025
Since i reckon a lot of people are emotional about the newest episode and some are anxious about the ending, i want to share the spoiler for what might happen on the next aka last episode of Futtara Doshaburi / When It Rains, It Pours. (Will also add a snippet story after the main storyline which are taken from its spin-off novel, Mellow Rain. It probably won't be in the drama but i simply would like to share. Also, the snippet might be about Sei & Hagiwara separately or together, you guess~)

Take note that:
1. The drama might be different from the novel.
2. I used machine translator when i read both books (FuttaraD & MellowR) so there might be inaccuracies.
3. Not a direct translate word by word. It's a summary where I also included my takes on it.
4. English is not my first language.

Proceed only if you don't mind spoilers. Hope its helpful.