The bad faith comments for this show is laughable and I do not take them seriously one bit. To the fans that love…
i had to block some of those people because it was getting exhausting. genuine criticism is one thing, but why do they keep coming back day after day to write the same kind of negative bs for a drama they supposedly hate so much? i don't even spend this much time on things / people i like irl. 😂
anyway, i wake up every day looking forward to the new episodes so it's nice to see comments from people who adore this drama as much as me.
about to start ep11-12. may the story only get more compelling! 🤗
I'm shocked at the low rating, haven't watched it yet, but now I'm nervous b/c I love these two actors. I'm seeing…
yeah, pacing is one of the main complaints i've seen. the next one is the fl... some people don't like her overbearing attitude lol. personally, i don't really have an issue with either.
i honestly do feel like many viewers nowadays lack the patience for long-form dramas that really prioritize proper world-building in the introductory episodes. as someone who grew up with c-dramas, the pacing is nothing new. whether this drama is going to be a timeless classic is something we still need to wait and see, BUT if you can handle the pacing for dramas like nirvana in fire, joy of life, and the story of ming lan, or even newer ones like blossoms in adversity, flourished peony, and against the current - you will be fine with this drama.
the first few episodes are to set up characters and plot, and once our leads make their way back to the capital, the pacing picks up. i think each episode is better than the last, and i'm enjoying this a lot.
hmm. i hear your opinion, but i disagree. i think meng ziyi is portraying mu wanyao just fine.mu wanyao isn't…
no worries, you aren't overexplaining lol.
we don't share the same views about whether or not meng ziyi is miscast, but after reading this in-depth comment, i can see that at least we have a few things we can agree on.
i appreciate you taking the time to clarify your take. thank you for the response!
I completely agree with you. So many people were saying that it was slow-paced, and I was like, “Is there something…
that's what i keep saying! if those classic dramas were airing right now, they would get called "slow" or "boring" and get bombed with 1/10 ratings within just 1-3 episodes lol.
patience is a lost art in today's world, and it is affecting the quality of dramas that get released nowadays.
Btw some of the quotes from the latest eps are so nice and poetic!My fave for the FL and ML:" Mu Wan Yao this…
i love mu wanyao's fierce resilience! after everything she has been through, she still has the will to fight, even when her enemies are as formidable as the ones she has to face. i don't know if i would be able to do the same if i was in her shoes.
and that line - "Books bear no blade, yet thousands of scrolls can pierce the sky" - is so powerful. even in real life, when dictators try to control the people, the first groups they target are scholars, writers, and artists. they know a soldier is just one fighter on the battlefield, but a creative mind has the power to inspire thousands.
I feel like Meng Ziyi is miscast for her role here. The way she plays bratty princess isn’t adorable, I feel…
hmm. i hear your opinion, but i disagree. i think meng ziyi is portraying mu wanyao just fine.
mu wanyao isn't a puppy - she’s not supposed to be sweet or likable when she’s acting bratty. i love tian xiwei, but her character jundai is a sociopath who is evil for villainy's sake... there's nothing "adorable" about that. comparing a complex naive-survivor-turned-cold-princess like wanyao to a flat and soulless antagonist like jundai is wild.
it sounds like you just don't like meng ziyi.
you are indeed assigning what behavior you find acceptable based on looks, but at least you're self-aware enough to acknowledge it.
Why is this dramas rating pendling between 7,6-7,8? Who hate this drama this much? FL fans? ML fans? Are this…
i don't think the fans are downvoting this drama at all. both actors have their own individual fanbases, but their fanbases overlap because they are one of the most popular CPs in c-entertainment. if anything, the fans are the main reason why the rating isn't lower on mdl.
some reasons for the drama's 7.6-7.8/10 score:
- meng ziyi has a lot of haters. regardless of how good her projects are, some people will automatically downvote her dramas just to discourage others from watching. - there are several popular dramas airing at the moment, which creates heavy competition. fandom wars between rival airing dramas often lead to review / rating bombing. - many viewers have short attention spans and can't stand slow-burn pacing. - some people dislike flawed main characters early on and are too impatient to wait for their growth and development, so they give the drama a low rating to vent their dissatisfaction. - a lot of viewers who do enjoy the drama prefer to wait until it finishes airing before giving it a final rating.
if you genuinely want to support the drama and help raise its rating, i highly recommend logging onto mdl on a web browser > click on the 'Episodes' tab > rate the individual episodes you've watched.
By seeing upcoming teasers feels like story is moving quite fast, its 40 eps but by ep 14 , one more Yu man killed…
yeaaah, it really does feel like wenji will ditch chunhua. i haven't watched ep9 yet, so i don't know if their relationship has developed further, but i've always felt iffy about that pairing. he's embarrassed by her social status (or lack of one), and he's too self-conscious and weak to stand up to his father for her. so why does he keep pursuing her and making promises he can't keep? it feels so selfish and cruel to me.
It's getting better and better every day.Fully enjoying it. Don't miss out on a good drama because of haters and…
yesss, i agree with your sentiment completely!
this need for instant gratification is one of the main reasons why we keep getting short-form dramas disguised as long-form dramas. action, plot twist, action, plot twist, death - all in the span of one episode. it doesn't matter if it makes sense or not. it doesn't matter if letting the plot build tension would create a more meaningful narrative later or not. as many things need to be done as quickly as possible, otherwise impatient people would lose interest, which in the end only cheapens the overall story.
if masterpieces like nirvana in fire or joy of life were airing today, people would be complaining about how slow those are too.
This drama would be better without kingship and with a sect instead, cultivating power, with the male lead as…
then it would no longer be tigers sniff the rose. you basically changed the entire plot. the hell? lol. instead of writing fanfics in your head about what you want this drama to be, why not just find a drama that will fit your taste more? i don't understand you people. 😂
I don’t think it’s about the pace or setup; there’s nothing wrong with those. The issue, I think, is how…
ahh, my post was in response to the many comments i saw saying that the drama was boring or that the plot didn't make sense / had no direction.
but i do see where you are coming from about mu wanyao being unlikable, and i would argue that perhaps that is exactly the director's goal. she comes across as overbearing, spoiled, and cruel to outsiders - we aren't supposed to connect with her or like her upon our first encounter. it's kind of like in real life where our first impression of someone is terrible, but later when we get to truly know them, we realize there is so much more beneath the surface. it will take time and character development for her to get where we want her to be because no one starts out perfect. every person, no matter how flawed, has their own journey and story to tell.
that's why i said this drama and these characters require patience.
Well said! And it’s so well written so far! So interesting to watch! Love the backstories of the characters.…
i should clarify: tyrant in the eyes of outsiders! the way she treats people beneath her - like seizing their properties and forcing them to serve her - is typical of an entitled person of her royal status.
but i agree with you that there is more to her than what meets the eye, and she is probably just playing her part too well. her servants seem to love and respect her. she punishes those who do wrong - like the servants who tried to blame the yan family for the damaged makeup - but treats everyone else fairly... sometimes even tenderly, like the way she tries to comfort chunhua when she's crying. no one who is truly a tyrant would care to do that.
deep down, she is a soft person. we see this when her guards are down. it's just that to protect herself, she just wears cruelty as a mask.
Well said! And it’s so well written so far! So interesting to watch! Love the backstories of the characters.…
exactly!
the same people who have a problem with mu wanyao's personality will gladly glaze male characters with the exact same archetype. i don't like her as a person (irl, we probably wouldn't be friends upon our first meeting - it'll be a slowburn lol) but as a character, i find her fascinating. i am loving the flashbacks we get from her nightmares. her past is dark and tragic, and while it doesn't excuse her being a tyrant, it gives her the kind of depth i always appreciate.
this drama is so well-written, and i am really enjoying everything we've seen so far!
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anyway, i wake up every day looking forward to the new episodes so it's nice to see comments from people who adore this drama as much as me.
about to start ep11-12. may the story only get more compelling! 🤗
i hope this drama will earn your love the same way the novel did once you get a chance to watch it!
i honestly do feel like many viewers nowadays lack the patience for long-form dramas that really prioritize proper world-building in the introductory episodes. as someone who grew up with c-dramas, the pacing is nothing new. whether this drama is going to be a timeless classic is something we still need to wait and see, BUT if you can handle the pacing for dramas like nirvana in fire, joy of life, and the story of ming lan, or even newer ones like blossoms in adversity, flourished peony, and against the current - you will be fine with this drama.
the first few episodes are to set up characters and plot, and once our leads make their way back to the capital, the pacing picks up. i think each episode is better than the last, and i'm enjoying this a lot.
do give it a try when you have time!
but honestly? valid reaction. 😂
they are part of the cutie patootie squad. we need them around.
we don't share the same views about whether or not meng ziyi is miscast, but after reading this in-depth comment, i can see that at least we have a few things we can agree on.
i appreciate you taking the time to clarify your take. thank you for the response!
patience is a lost art in today's world, and it is affecting the quality of dramas that get released nowadays.
and honestly? i get it. sometimes we come across certain comments that just leave us speechless lol.
bratty, flirty, intelligent, cruel armor, soft heart - meng ziyi is doing a great job at bringing mu wanyao to life.
and that line - "Books bear no blade, yet thousands of scrolls can pierce the sky" - is so powerful. even in real life, when dictators try to control the people, the first groups they target are scholars, writers, and artists. they know a soldier is just one fighter on the battlefield, but a creative mind has the power to inspire thousands.
this drama really do have so many great lines!
mu wanyao isn't a puppy - she’s not supposed to be sweet or likable when she’s acting bratty. i love tian xiwei, but her character jundai is a sociopath who is evil for villainy's sake... there's nothing "adorable" about that. comparing a complex naive-survivor-turned-cold-princess like wanyao to a flat and soulless antagonist like jundai is wild.
it sounds like you just don't like meng ziyi.
you are indeed assigning what behavior you find acceptable based on looks, but at least you're self-aware enough to acknowledge it.
some reasons for the drama's 7.6-7.8/10 score:
- meng ziyi has a lot of haters. regardless of how good her projects are, some people will automatically downvote her dramas just to discourage others from watching.
- there are several popular dramas airing at the moment, which creates heavy competition. fandom wars between rival airing dramas often lead to review / rating bombing.
- many viewers have short attention spans and can't stand slow-burn pacing.
- some people dislike flawed main characters early on and are too impatient to wait for their growth and development, so they give the drama a low rating to vent their dissatisfaction.
- a lot of viewers who do enjoy the drama prefer to wait until it finishes airing before giving it a final rating.
if you genuinely want to support the drama and help raise its rating, i highly recommend logging onto mdl on a web browser > click on the 'Episodes' tab > rate the individual episodes you've watched.
this need for instant gratification is one of the main reasons why we keep getting short-form dramas disguised as long-form dramas. action, plot twist, action, plot twist, death - all in the span of one episode. it doesn't matter if it makes sense or not. it doesn't matter if letting the plot build tension would create a more meaningful narrative later or not. as many things need to be done as quickly as possible, otherwise impatient people would lose interest, which in the end only cheapens the overall story.
if masterpieces like nirvana in fire or joy of life were airing today, people would be complaining about how slow those are too.
this is only the beginning, and we still have a long way to go. i, for one, am excited.
but i do see where you are coming from about mu wanyao being unlikable, and i would argue that perhaps that is exactly the director's goal. she comes across as overbearing, spoiled, and cruel to outsiders - we aren't supposed to connect with her or like her upon our first encounter. it's kind of like in real life where our first impression of someone is terrible, but later when we get to truly know them, we realize there is so much more beneath the surface. it will take time and character development for her to get where we want her to be because no one starts out perfect. every person, no matter how flawed, has their own journey and story to tell.
that's why i said this drama and these characters require patience.
but i agree with you that there is more to her than what meets the eye, and she is probably just playing her part too well. her servants seem to love and respect her. she punishes those who do wrong - like the servants who tried to blame the yan family for the damaged makeup - but treats everyone else fairly... sometimes even tenderly, like the way she tries to comfort chunhua when she's crying. no one who is truly a tyrant would care to do that.
deep down, she is a soft person. we see this when her guards are down. it's just that to protect herself, she just wears cruelty as a mask.
the same people who have a problem with mu wanyao's personality will gladly glaze male characters with the exact same archetype. i don't like her as a person (irl, we probably wouldn't be friends upon our first meeting - it'll be a slowburn lol) but as a character, i find her fascinating. i am loving the flashbacks we get from her nightmares. her past is dark and tragic, and while it doesn't excuse her being a tyrant, it gives her the kind of depth i always appreciate.
this drama is so well-written, and i am really enjoying everything we've seen so far!