I read someone that commnted that her mom in the comic/show is suppose to be uyghur/turk
I don't think it has nothing to do with the drama since she is really from Uyghur ethnicity, nor I read anywhere she isn't a Tang citizen on the drama. So, chillax :)
Love Dilraba over here. Her role as a lady is very strong and determine. Leo Wu.....wow! Has grown up a lot compared…
The older he grows, the handsomer he gets (Leo Wu). I liked his acting skills since Fights Break Sphere (a pitty we didn't have season 2). I hope our main couple to have a happy ending.
Ahh, this is a total spoiler so *warnings* Hao du for sure!
A happy ending is possible for everyone (so far) and it would supreme since this drama has been a great surprise and I keep counting the days to watch more episodes, but... let's wait and see how it's going to end after all. I totally ship Hao Du with Leyan... only she can melt that icy heart of his hehe
he's a killer himself, stalker, murder instigator, you name it..... not a serial killer tho ... instead he justifies…
It was like that in fact. I still don't understand why the bias against him from so many people. It seems to me they wanted to see the other male lead ending up with the female lead. I find the story fair: the one who loved and deserved the most got the girl. Sadly the end wasn't what I expected but very good anyway.
I do not think that simply labeling something as fiction prevents it from being problematic (hurtful) in the eyes…
"You seem to be focused on the dramas themselves as a viewer", of course, how could it be otherwise since they are mere entertainment? :)
"I would like to be able to choose what dramas I want to watch or not watch, but I understand that may not always be possible." Me too, specially if it's due geographical restrictions. Filming is an art, art is culture, so no matter what explanations they may give, culture should be open to everyone regardless their geographical location, specially if we pay for watching. The money a consumer pays in one region is as valuable as the money another person pays on another region, so I find it truly unfair.
"I did not find it unreasonable with the firing from River Where the Moon Rises, nor did I see the cancellation of Joseon Exorcist being unreasonable." In this part of the world, people like me do find it unreasonable. We accept the cancelation of a contract and the change of actors due current crimes, illness, sudden death other serious problems. Waiting several years (according to what I read on the net) to act against a bully looks like a revenge instead of seeking proper justice. I only hope that it wasn't for revenge and it's just that they only could act now. I was always taught that when you take revenge you fall as low as the offender. Also, I was taught that we shouldn't ever take revenge but forgive and forget because nobody can outrun karma: people trip and fall for themselves, life it's the best justice provider of all... and I've seen it happening multiple times. Plus if bullying in Korea is as portrayed in some school dramas, it's too much, really! It seems to me that is more of a cultural issue and it needs to have another approach in order to prevent and solve such kind of problems.
Regarding Joseon Exorcist, I have watched shows making fun of historical queens, kings and even the Pope... Nobody made a fuss, no show/movie that I know of was cancelled. So, living on a democratic region makes me unable to understand it. As I said on my previous message, producers should be more careful about their productions in order to avoid controversies and not to dissapoint us, international consumers, which I believe are far more than the number of Korean consumers due the growth of the Korean Wave all over the countries.
Since this topic is going adrift from the main one because it has many related things to talk about, I'm ending it here.
Perhaps it would be a good thing if people on this side of the world were so demanding and "ferocious" defending sensitive topics as Koreans, but also including religions and ethnics for the sake of fairness.
I do not think that simply labeling something as fiction prevents it from being problematic (hurtful) in the eyes…
@Jonh Smith I won't make a full reply because it would be too long, so I'll stick to the main point: "all of us have the right to differ and the right to be respected for thinking different, so respect must be the key word in every environment."
As for me,I find disrespectful to us, international consumers, making us wait and anticipate for what it seemed to be a good drama (Joseon Exorcist) and dropping it because some people refuse to separate history from fiction...
Also, I find disrespectful as consumer such things as changing leads as in River Where The Moon Rises (producers must went and find out about their past before making a contract or let them end their work first but do not spoil a drama changing a lead, specially for old deeds, old deeds not new ones - as I read on the net).
Now it's another fuss about another drama... Will it really air? Thankfully I'm not anticipating it.
Producers should be more careful about sensitive topics to their citizens and sort things out before starting filming to avoid future controversies.
I think @D5W is right:" this can end up as a serious problem in the future if nothing changes there would be no more Korean wave as it's citizens basically form a dam to block the export of Korean entertainment". In my case, I'm starting to lose interest on Korean dramas, Chinese ones are gaining territory due the increase of quality and good stories.
I was happy when "River Where The Moon Rises" started, and only for the good remaining actors I open the episodes and skip scenes, just to know the overal story. If I didn't like the cast so much, I wouldn't even bother to jump through the episodes :(
I was talking in general so people who read the comment would get better my point of view. In my opinion disrespectful comments shold be deleted at once. You bother to reply them, I congratulate you for your patience. Really. Have a nice day/evening!
I made a question, I did not say you made that proposition. About the drama of the angel, of course not but it applies the same to what I wanted to point out, it was a mere comparison: the freedom of speech/airing fictional shows regadless of reality - because it's fiction and it's supposed we live on a free world. I also dislike rude comments, but... what can we do? Beautiful people respect others while being assertive. Everyone is entitled to think different and should know that they must respect in order to be respected.
When they state that a drama is fiction, how can it be taken otherwise, as non fiction? "Angel's Last Mission: Love" portrayed awfully the Christian God, in my opinion, it was fiction indeed because it's not the God that Christians preach, but I haven't read about an uproar for it even though that drama might have hurt feelings of believers. So, freedom to film fiction can be religious only? It cannot be historic or whatever? Fiction is fiction, sadly many people forget that fiction is not reality.
Regarding those people who ask silence of international users I would like you to remember that many of us pay to watch your shows (and buy OST's...), so we are helping your industry. Korea's entertainment industry is having success overseas thanks to us (not only for Koreans living abroad because we are millions of fans and hallyu wave is growing in every country I know of), so I think we have the right to say what we think, obviously, always with the due respect.
In fact, I also would like to remember all that all of us have the right to differ and the right to be respected for thinking different, so respect must be the key word in every environment.
What I feared the most was a tragic ending and I'm very glad it is a happy one. I must confess I was a bit sad for Hulan Prince, he was another pawn. So sad he fell in love with the wrong woman but happy because his love protected her as much as he could. I was delighted to see good looking and manly man in contrast to the delicate males of most dramas hehe Loved the acting of all the cast and I find this drama a high quality, top star production. You can watch it without regrets :)
"I would like to be able to choose what dramas I want to watch or not watch, but I understand that may not always be possible." Me too, specially if it's due geographical restrictions. Filming is an art, art is culture, so no matter what explanations they may give, culture should be open to everyone regardless their geographical location, specially if we pay for watching. The money a consumer pays in one region is as valuable as the money another person pays on another region, so I find it truly unfair.
"I did not find it unreasonable with the firing from River Where the Moon Rises, nor did I see the cancellation of Joseon Exorcist being unreasonable." In this part of the world, people like me do find it unreasonable. We accept the cancelation of a contract and the change of actors due current crimes, illness, sudden death other serious problems.
Waiting several years (according to what I read on the net) to act against a bully looks like a revenge instead of seeking proper justice. I only hope that it wasn't for revenge and it's just that they only could act now.
I was always taught that when you take revenge you fall as low as the offender. Also, I was taught that we shouldn't ever take revenge but forgive and forget because nobody can outrun karma: people trip and fall for themselves, life it's the best justice provider of all... and I've seen it happening multiple times.
Plus if bullying in Korea is as portrayed in some school dramas, it's too much, really! It seems to me that is more of a cultural issue and it needs to have another approach in order to prevent and solve such kind of problems.
Regarding Joseon Exorcist, I have watched shows making fun of historical queens, kings and even the Pope... Nobody made a fuss, no show/movie that I know of was cancelled. So, living on a democratic region makes me unable to understand it.
As I said on my previous message, producers should be more careful about their productions in order to avoid controversies and not to dissapoint us, international consumers, which I believe are far more than the number of Korean consumers due the growth of the Korean Wave all over the countries.
Since this topic is going adrift from the main one because it has many related things to talk about, I'm ending it here.
Perhaps it would be a good thing if people on this side of the world were so demanding and "ferocious" defending sensitive topics as Koreans, but also including religions and ethnics for the sake of fairness.
Happy weekend and be safe!
As for me,I find disrespectful to us, international consumers, making us wait and anticipate for what it seemed to be a good drama (Joseon Exorcist) and dropping it because some people refuse to separate history from fiction...
Also, I find disrespectful as consumer such things as changing leads as in River Where The Moon Rises (producers must went and find out about their past before making a contract or let them end their work first but do not spoil a drama changing a lead, specially for old deeds, old deeds not new ones - as I read on the net).
Now it's another fuss about another drama... Will it really air? Thankfully I'm not anticipating it.
Producers should be more careful about sensitive topics to their citizens and sort things out before starting filming to avoid future controversies.
I think @D5W is right:" this can end up as a serious problem in the future if nothing changes there would be no more Korean wave as it's citizens basically form a dam to block the export of Korean entertainment". In my case, I'm starting to lose interest on Korean dramas, Chinese ones are gaining territory due the increase of quality and good stories.
I was happy when "River Where The Moon Rises" started, and only for the good remaining actors I open the episodes and skip scenes, just to know the overal story. If I didn't like the cast so much, I wouldn't even bother to jump through the episodes :(
In my opinion disrespectful comments shold be deleted at once. You bother to reply them, I congratulate you for your patience. Really. Have a nice day/evening!
About the drama of the angel, of course not but it applies the same to what I wanted to point out, it was a mere comparison: the freedom of speech/airing fictional shows regadless of reality - because it's fiction and it's supposed we live on a free world.
I also dislike rude comments, but... what can we do? Beautiful people respect others while being assertive. Everyone is entitled to think different and should know that they must respect in order to be respected.
When they state that a drama is fiction, how can it be taken otherwise, as non fiction? "Angel's Last Mission: Love" portrayed awfully the Christian God, in my opinion, it was fiction indeed because it's not the God that Christians preach, but I haven't read about an uproar for it even though that drama might have hurt feelings of believers. So, freedom to film fiction can be religious only? It cannot be historic or whatever? Fiction is fiction, sadly many people forget that fiction is not reality.
Regarding those people who ask silence of international users I would like you to remember that many of us pay to watch your shows (and buy OST's...), so we are helping your industry. Korea's entertainment industry is having success overseas thanks to us (not only for Koreans living abroad because we are millions of fans and hallyu wave is growing in every country I know of), so I think we have the right to say what we think, obviously, always with the due respect.
In fact, I also would like to remember all that all of us have the right to differ and the right to be respected for thinking different, so respect must be the key word in every environment.
I was delighted to see good looking and manly man in contrast to the delicate males of most dramas hehe
Loved the acting of all the cast and I find this drama a high quality, top star production. You can watch it without regrets :)