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On 1122: For a Happy Marriage Jun 28, 2024
An immersive, intricate and provocative psychological drama depicting the highs and lows of a marriage with 4 flawed leads. While our stellar cast of Takahata Mitsuki, Okada Masaki, Kora Kengo and Nishino Nanase were effortless, the real star of this drama was its script which was full of depth, heavy dialogues, and symbolisms that left me with food for thought after each episode. If you've ever been in a relationship, you're likely to find yourself in the position of either of the 4 leads or all of them.
Highly recommend this realistic drama for an open-minded and mature audience that appreciates how our world is full of colours beyond black and white.

P.S That synopsis does not do justice to this drama.
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Replying to chillingindoors Jun 28, 2024
Episode 7. What a quiet, and endearing finale with a beautiful message.
Episode 7 ramblings as I watch the episode

Narita Ryo <333
What he said about how a husband / wife aren't always on the same page - BANG ON.

Damn that doctor at the infertility clinic was rude and insensitive. I've heard friends tell me about how these procedures can be both mentally and physically tiring but watching it made me really empathize with couples who decide to take this route. I wish more people were not fixated with having a kid of your own blood and considered adoption.. oh well.

In E2 we were introduced to Ichiko's childhood trauma and walls.. we've seen it at play in bits and pieces throughout the drama but in this episode we begin to really see how it makes her shut Otoyan out and suffer silently. Otoyan was clearly trying to offer sensitivity asking her to pause on the treatment or talk to him but she wouldn't take it because her mind is so fixated on the next step like having a baby is the only thing that would save this marriage..
Glad Otoyan brought it up and hallelujah finally he said the magic words that it's ok to not have a child, and that they can be happy without it. Otoyan can be sensitive sometimes..
Also interesting how the ikebana was at the backdrop in this scene.. great symbolism of how flower day broke the marriage, and how Ichiko was just putting up with it all this while.
And the insensitivity is back - " is it because I had an affair with your permission"
EH she did not give you permission. How do you not understand this?! She said it casually.. she did not actually expect you to actually find another, and she admitted this after you got stabbed, didn't she?

I love Ichiko's realization and declaration to learn to open up to people. YESSSS, Finally! Maybe the divorce has done her good.. let's see.

Otoyan seems like the perfect guy on the surface. He loves Ichiko's mother like his own, he takes care of people, he's there when you need him and will even say the right comforting words but in crucial and small moments you see how he doesn't look within enough and blames others way more than his own self. He tries his best to never look like the bad guy and tries to phrase even the worst things in a nice way so as to look good (not realising how insensitive it sounds)
case on point the scene before Mitsuki stabs him, or even the divorce conversation..
He's very real and flawed, just like most humans are, with both nice and ugly sides.

In maximum dramas we see a divorce and then leap.. but in real life, it doesn't just end with a divorce. There's a lot to do even after that such as moving things out, settling property and alimony etc, or even the emotional withdrawals you feel especially when you still care for each other and are not completely sick of each other yet..
To see Otoyan support Ichiko after her mother's death was such a nice touch. You can see that both of them will always find ways to be in each other's lives..

Finally both of them are at the calm that Shiro / Mitsuki reached. You know they say sometimes certain relationships need to hit absolute rock bottom (to the point that it cannot get worse than that) for it to rise from the ashes.. the divorce did both of them good.
Finally they could communicate free of burdens / obligations and expectations. Even though it was a conversation about Ichiko's mum, you could see why they'll always be special for each other.
"I need to be the one to turn around because my ex-husband is too kind" THAT HURT

Beautiful symbolism of Ichiko / Otoyan not being able to sell the house because of what it means..interesting use of the kitchen space as an icebreaker because their laughters always centered around eating together / meals.. like that was the most couple-y thing they used to do.

Ending it with the flower that represents [we don't know what] - great great symbolism, almost to say there is no concrete ending and it's a continuation (just like life) where we keep going and we live in the present (Ichiko's "I am happy right now")

Beautiful. I liked this finale, and this drama.
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Replying to 1122: For a Happy Marriage Jun 28, 2024
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Have you actually watched the drama? Ichiko and Otoyan were in love when they got married. I am not going to go into details of why and how but she agreed to let him to spend 1 night a month with his lover.
It's ok if you don't like the drama after watching it, but don't judge it even before watching it.
And I am not making any excuses for infidelity but it is extremely common in the world today, not just in Japan. This show does not in any way romanticize or excuse infidelity. Rather, it presents the reality of what it takes to make a marriage work.
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Replying to KellyFlower Jun 28, 2024
List Eargasm
Love this list!
Thank you! I need to update it... it's been so long.
HAHA
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Replying to 1122: For a Happy Marriage Jun 28, 2024
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There are 2 couples in this, all in all 4 main characters. I'm gonna assume you're talking Ichiko / Otoyan. She had a one night stand (just once) with a male prostitute after her husband refused to have sex with her (as he was in love with another woman).
They divorced at the end of Episode 6.
I have not watched the last episode yet so I don't know what's the ending.
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Replying to chillingindoors Jun 28, 2024
Ramblings as I watch the episodeEpisode 6 Otoyan is the classic case of pot calling the kettle black. Cannot take…
This drama is very realistic, heavy and contemplative but if you are able to appreciate it, there is so much to take away from it.
Episode 6 - another fantastic episode, focusing on what it truly takes to make a marriage work. Stellar writing and screenplay especially in this episode.
Can't wait to watch the finale.

P.S If you liked the award-winning Hollywood film 'A Marriage Story (2019)', then you might enjoy this.
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On 1122: For a Happy Marriage Jun 28, 2024
Ramblings as I watch the episode
Episode 6
Otoyan is the classic case of pot calling the kettle black. Cannot take his wife having a one-night stand while he had countless amounts of sex with his mistress for over a freaking year. Worst, he leaves her in agony and still has the guts to tell his sister that he will not get a divorce and he's trying to prevent that. Like dude if you want to save the marriage, look within first, talk to her and try to understand her instead of distancing yourself.
I enjoyed the conversation with the sister. Very realistic, and there was a beautiful advice hidden underneath the whole why-the-marriage-ended. But unfortunately, Otoyan didn't hear it and that was COMMUNICATION.
Interesting how the sister notes that it's great he could talk to Ichiko as friends, but eventually they became friends. WORD! While a great marriage is founded on friendship, it is more than that. It is companionship, which includes being independent of negative outcomes.

Shiro and Mitsuki's conversation on 'family' - so so well written. This show is seriously so well-written. What a fantastic exchange showing how flawed, selfish both of them are., how the man so conveniently calls it a family when she doesn't live up to his standard, but brushes all responsibility on her. Same with Mitsuki - yes you guys are a family and you cheated on him? How is that being a family? And how do you not expect him to question whose child that is when you have been having an affair for so long?
And you guys want to bring another child in this world to make another unhappy human be born into this universe?! I wonder if the writer is trying to prove me wrong with the next scene after that. Shiro takes 1 step forward and walks with Mistuki and Hiro. Looks like they'll keep the baby... SIGH.
Also I cannot believe I'm saying this but I actually feel like I am beginning to prefer Mitsuki / Shiro over Otoyan / Ichiko.

I zoned out the moment manipulative Rei said Ichiko is no longer a client. Ichiko, GIRL, how do you not see what this guy is doing? He literally earns money from making people comfortable and seducing them. Of course I'm not saying that those who prostitute themselves don't deserve love or are fake, but Rei is. HAHA.
And there we have the bait - do you want to have dinner? after dinner, Ichiko wanna go to hotel?
I am glad she shut him off and declined. Ichiko, focus on your issues before getting involved with another man.

"I know I have no right to feel hurt" YESSSSSSSS Otoyan continue. Ugh the message cut off his thoughts. Interesting cordial message exchange between husband-wife oops I mean friends.
"Why exactly am I feeling hurt" FINALLLLLYYYYYYY

"Its disgust over the lopsided power balance" and the unfairness of it.. interesting perspective. I did not think about that at all.

Another interesting perspective / conversation about comfort and eroticism. I think Ichiko definitely had a point. But it also seemed like a fantasy? Like you don't get expect your relationship to be as passionate as it once was. Comfort takes over in every relationship and isn't that what we all strive to achieve? To come home to someone that makes you feel comfortable and someone you can share everything with..
It's almost beginning to feel like the perfectness of their relationship (like no matter what happened, the fact that they were able to hold on and be cordial) is beginning to bother them.. clear case of grass is greener on the other side. Like they're yearning to be a couple that fights and has hot make-up sex like some teens over the middle-age calm romantic relationship.. let's see if I am right..

What a contrast with Shiro and Mitsuki who are actually beginning to find comfort in their relationship and taking a step forward to be a family. Unlike Ichiko / Otoyan, these two are trying to change, and re-build their relationship. Finally Shiro understands what Mitsuki has to go through everyday, and the amount of care and attention his kid requires. Very beautiful sequence between Shiro and Hiro and the way the kid kept saying Yanyan. Even more beautiful was the couple sitting on the kitchen floor having an honest conversation as parents. That simple pat on the shoulder, and those simple words of 'thank you' and 'sorry' AHHHH that was lovely. Hats off for the writing, acting and direction. That's what companionship is.

"We need to focus on what we can do to be happy together"
says the person who found another woman the moment the wife didn't want to have sex.
says the person who left the house.
And then immediately goes on to talk about kids and sex.
OTOYAN YOU NEED A TIGHT SLAP RIGHT NOW. ARE YOU EVEN HEARING YOURSELF?!
Goes on to kiss her and leaves so that things don't go back the way they were
WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW I don't even know what to say.
The silver lining is that both of them love each other but let' s see how long this fake bliss lasts..

"I trust you.. I want to trust you" YES, THAT IS A MATURE COUPLE RIGHT THERE. Shiro is not a perfect man by any means, and has a lot of shortcomings but he's trying to improve, trying to listen and understand. Everyone deserves a second chance especially when they prove themselves worthy of it.

Can this player Rei stop calling Ichiko?! Something about him rubs me the wrong way..

HUH?! Mitsuki seems to have some warped logic / understanding.
FIrst she let Hiro apologize for her getting involved in an affair when it was her fault because remember Hiro walked away from the lady at the bar instead of sleeping with her.
And now she thinks that Otoyan had an affair with her because he cherished and trusted Ichiko?
GIRL WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING?!
Is she trying to play some game here and egging him to think about himself = get a divorce?
And then goes into you saved me and I'm trying to re-build my family.. girl you stabbed him in his genitals and you're rubbing the fact that you're pregnant and then you tell him to be happy.
I am beginning to see why Otoyan and Mitsuki fell for each other.. they have similar warped logic and do the exact opposite of what they say. Hypocrites of the highest order.

and there we have it. Rei plays his game. Weren't you in support of her marriage, and now you're trying to push her into re-considering? There we have it! I told you he's manipulative. And my point proven further when he asks her for sex again. ICHIKO STOP MEETING THIS GUY. Glad she cut him off once and for all.

I just realized another difference between Mitsuki / Shiro and Otoyan / Ichiko. MS don't share their marriage issues with others and resolve it within themselves, while OI talk to the whole world about the issues instead of each other. Sharing is great, but be careful of who you share with. Also don't conflate others' opinions with your own; another downside of sharing.

I was all for "We might have been stuck circling the same spot in the past and will do that in the future but .. we were serious.. we never broke up" but her let's have a baby threw me out. Let's see where this goes because the way I see it, having a baby is not the way
oh wait
she just said we got a divorce
HAHAHA I knew it.
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On Plus-Sized Misadventures in Love! Jun 28, 2024
LMAOOOOO at that ending! I laughed out so loud.
Amnesia was used in the most tropey way possible that you can't take it seriously. That aside, it was a simple and feel-good story of self-love, full of positivity and heart. Kudos to the way their love story was written like any other, without an emphasis on her fatness / looks.
Time well spent :)
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Replying to bibi Jun 28, 2024
Title Hakuoki
idc about the plot, I'm just here for a historical jdrama bcs someone needs to tell japan that they need to start…
if you're looking for historical Japanese dramas with romance, you should check out 'asadoras'. They are historical dramas that air weekdays mornings in Japan and are usually 15 mins an episode, spanning over 100+ episodes.

Some recommendations with beautiful romances -
https://kisskh.at/13553-asa-ga-kita
https://kisskh.at/7411-hanako-to-anne
https://kisskh.at/33564-yell
https://kisskh.at/7889-gochisousan

Non-asadoras (full length dramas) that are historical romances -
https://kisskh.at/28252-in-this-corner-of-the-world
https://kisskh.at/12252-tenno-no-ryoriban
https://kisskh.at/49689-kaidan-botan-doro-beauty-and-fear
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Replying to Dylan Rodrigues Jun 28, 2024
This drama is now being subbed by a fansubber. Please support their hard work by watching at their site, link…
Is the movie a compilation of the drama or a sequel?
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Replying to chillingindoors Jun 28, 2024
Episode 4 ramblings as I watch the episodeThere's something so real and vulnerable about all these characters…
You guys making me emotional 🥺
I am glad my reviews / comments are read, and appreciated.
Thank you! *countless bowing*
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Replying to chillingindoors Jun 27, 2024
Episode 3 ramblings as I watch the episodeAhh no wonder Otoya fell for Ichiko. It looked like she fulfilled parts…
Shiro is very patriarchal and I really dislike that about him. It doesn't help that he's also very detached as a person. I don't want to give away spoilers so we'll discuss more after you watch the next 2 episodes hehe

I would think that Mitsuki subtly flirted first, but Otoyan probably made the first move to invite her for tea / coffee. But the show doesn't give that away and I doubt it matters because the focus of the show is more on both couples' marriages rather than the affair relationships.

Regarding the class, all we know is he is interested in flower arrangement. And he started taking it after the couple grew distant.
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Replying to chillingindoors Jun 27, 2024
Episode 3 ramblings as I watch the episodeAhh no wonder Otoya fell for Ichiko. It looked like she fulfilled parts…
Oh yes,. She has clearly been suppressing her anger and the way she feels stifled by her husband, mother-in-law and past relationships under the facade of a soft-spoken, gentle person. But like they say, no matter how good you are at keeping up with the facade, you give yourself away in little moments when you think no one notices and before long that facade slips..

Like for instance, if this stalker was truly bothering her, why didn't she report him to the police? It appears like she was waiting for Shiro. She seems to be interested in people who are unavailable, like Shiro who was detached but popular, so she used the opportunity with the stalker to invite him to her house. Or with Otoyan who's married but in a distant relationship with his wife.
And then she expects them to be attentive and committed to her, clearly ignoring the flip side of the coin that they were unavailable in the first place. It's like this fantasy that many women have of love being this magical weapon that they can use to change the toxic man.

I warmed up to Shiro a little more in Episodes 4 -5 as we got more of him.

I find all of them to be red flags for each other..
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Replying to chillingindoors Jun 27, 2024
Episode 3 ramblings as I watch the episodeAhh no wonder Otoya fell for Ichiko. It looked like she fulfilled parts…
Oh yes, that was assault and I definitely did not expect Mitsuki to go that far. But then, people in real life do.. it's scary..
I could feel her rage and hurt because she clearly wasn't taking the relationship lightly and he also seemed to have given her the impression that he was serious. and then he threw that bomb at her that too in a "nice" manner after using her for over a year "let's go back to being friends who discuss our problems" like she was someone he had his share of fun with. Not only that, but it's the way he did it like he didn't even have the guts to tell her that I wasn't expecting it to get serious, rather he chose to act like he's such a nice guy who's doing her a favour. She clearly couldn't take his bullshit.
But it's interesting because she probably wouldn't dare to do that to her husband because he's not the kind of person who would take it lightly.. I guess being nice comes with a cost?
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