This happens with a lot of idol Chinese dramas for sure, but I have seen comment sections becoming literal warzones…
In fact. these kdrama comment sections are the worst I have seen. I used to think Cdrama popular actors fans were unhinged until I read the comments on these pages.
Kdrama communities are quite chill compared to Cdramas😠I saw one Cdrama with an 8.9 rating and they think…
This happens with a lot of idol Chinese dramas for sure, but I have seen comment sections becoming literal warzones in case of popular Kdramas too. Look at Lovely Runner, Love Next Door, Queen of Tears(before the whole thing with KSH happened), My Demon and When The Phone Rings for example.
Chinese dramas like this show barely get views internationally, leave alone the fighting for ratings. See pages for dramas like A Lifelong Journey, She and Her Girls, Minning Town, Like a Flowing River, Romance in the Alley, Romance of Our Parents and Ordinary World for example. Well rated slice of life dramas like Meet Yourself and To The Wonder have peaceful comment section too.
That was indeed out of nowhere & the only thing that I found negative in the entire show. I have seen so much…
In 2024, I had to move to Mumbai for my internship. Now the people working in my studio were all forward minded. However, the PG I lived in was horrible. Apart from having a 35 year jobless dude (he was the PG aunt's son) creepily roaming around shirtless in the minimum space there was, I also had to deal with 3 Jain women who had a superiority complex of some sorts.
One woman was talking to someone on the phone on how happy she was to hear about the death of Muslims in a stampede, saying that 'thank god, a burden has been lifted off the earth'. This woman was a Jain, and Jainism promotes peace and non-violence. Throughout my stay, this woman kept sprouting her islamphobic nonsense to everyone around her. The funny thing was that she loved watching Pakistani dramas.
When this woman discovered my love for Chinese dramas, thanks to the non-existent privacy, she started to 'advice' me to not be too fond of Chinese people as they eat everything they can. I lost it over this. I am a peaceful introverted woman, but there is a limit till which a person can stay silent. I told her how racist she was being, which was countered by her telling me that her far relative had went to 'Vietnam' and saw people eat horrible foods. Hearing this, I tried reasoning with her about respecting the diets of people. But the vegetarians and vegans here feel superior, and she was one too. I told this woman how there are various groups that consume the supposed to be 'odd' foods in this country too. What did this woman respond? Those are tribals not Indians. At this point, I wanted to slap this idiot. I was fuming, Yet I controlled myself and replied 'to me, it doesn't really matter what 'odd' foods people around the globe eat. I am a non-vegetarian unlike you and am very keen on exploring different cultures.' She knew I was an non-vegetarian, still she tried to advice me. I also told her that in reality, Hinduism never forbade people from consuming meats and Hindus around the country eat non-veg. I gave her examples of people eating meat as per Hindu religious texts. She was too stunned to speak, and looked offended. This woman was half Hindu too, yet her knowledge on both her religions was 0. All of what she knew stemmed from the hate propaganda. She was also super hypocritical, as she was also a Korean drama fan.
She limited her xyz phobias and racism around me after this incident, but she talked about it with the other 2 equally xyz phobic and racist women. Oh, and btw this woman thought she could 'advice' me because she knew I was an introvert and according to her, that automatically made me naive, innocent, pure, and easy to take advantage of. She felt that it was her duty to advice me, an completely innocent and pure woman. Prior to her sinophobic discussion, the day before she called me and as if I am a kid or something, started explaining me how the world works. She kept yapping about the importance to open up and socialize. She was hellbent on taking me to watch some sh**ty bollywood film that I had 0 interest in, claiming that this experience will help me mature. I was pissed. I declined her, saying that I am busy with work and have no time to waste. Upon mentioning work, she started crying about how I am being taken advantage of by my studio as I am so busy with work everyday. I told her this is how job life is in the design industry and people working in my studio worked even harder. She refused to listen to what I said and kept insisting I was being taken advantage of as I am too naive and afraid to speak. This woman was testing my patience. She was a college going student studying something completely different, and I had more experience than her. I straight up told her that I am super tired of being labelled as someone naive and innocent and being treated like a toddler during my whole school life for being an introvert and I don't want those horrible memories to return. I told her how idiotic she was to think that I am too innocent for the world just because I am an introvert. That I don't need her to teach me the ways of the world. I finished by telling her that I will live my life as I want and she is no one to disturb my flow of life, and that she should not take any offence to what I said considering she was the one who attacked my personality. She was again too stunned to speak and it looked like I deeply offended her.
Mentioning another incident, a new woman had come to live with us for a short period of time. She was a Marathi and went in the same school as that woman, so they both were acquaintances. One random day, the same woman I was talking about was telling this new woman on how she finds Marathi language disrespectful and bad, because of the lack of honorifics. The other 2 Jain women took her side, and they talked about how beautiful their Gujrati and Marwari language was for having 'honorifics'. The new woman was unable to speak, and I knew she was offended. So I told these idiots how every language is unique and speaking a certain language doesn't give you any privilege. This was when the new woman pitched in, describing how sweet and lovely her language is. But these women were not at all interested and kept pushing their agenda. And these 3 were the same that thought of English as a sophisticated language, when even English lacks honorifics the same way Marathi does. This new woman then while leaving the PG told me how she liked no one other than me and an other respectful quiet woman during her stay as those 3 Jain women treated her like an unwanted woman.
These 3 women were also homophobic and transphobic and kept sharing their views throughout my stay. Being a bisexual woman myself, I was forced to hide my sexuality. These were the kind of women who will stain my name saying they fear me liking them, so I had to live in an extremely cautious manner. When I told my sister about this, I almost got teary eyed thinking about how I have to live so cautiously so that they don't treat me like a criminal. I was so happy to be treated normally in my college as an bisexual woman, that it was quite hard to hide my actual self in a city as 'forward' as Mumbai. Whenever these girls found about someone being either gay, bisexual, lesbian or belonging to the LGBTQ community, they said horrible things about them. They treated them as untouchables.
In the end I left that PG due to both that creepy guy I mentioned in the beginning and also due to these women. When I left, I told them that I was leaving due to aunt's creepy son. That particular girl seemed deeply offended on this guy's behalf, when she herself said she disliked him. She told me that I could've discussed this with them before (I did) and that they would have solved my issue. So now, I was being shamed to leave due to this creepy man as if this man was innocent and I was falsely accusing him. She herself used to go on and on about how creepy and annoying this dude was, all the while taking care of him as if he were a toddler. This dude was 35 year old, 14 years older than this woman. Yet, she took his side whenever he was busy wasting his mother's hard earned money (aunt was the sole earner, her husband passed away when her son was small). She not only used to open the door for this dude at 3am, she also ordered me to do the same. I was both creeped out and scared for myself, so I told her to keep me away from this mess. That somehow offended her too. This pathetic 35 year old is a story for another day, I won't talk more about him. I blocked this lady as soon as I escaped from the PG. I felt like I was the main character of 'Strangers from Hell' while living there. This experience is also why I love this drama's portrayal of different issues (minus the racism ofc).
Anyways, this was my horrible experience living in Mumbai. Apart from all of this, this 'advanced' city was littered with trash and people openly defecated in areas as posh as Bandra. The only good thing from Mumbai was the food. I will never live in that city ever again however. My experience has stained it forever. The supposed to be 'backward' city I live in is 1000 times better for me. Sorry for the long rant, I barely get to speak to people about my experience, so when I got the opportunity to, I couldn't stop myself.
That was indeed out of nowhere & the only thing that I found negative in the entire show. I have seen so much…
What you are saying is true and I equally loathe this behavior. In fact, being an Indian I have spent a lot of time criticizing the evils that pertains to Indian society and how extreme things have become in this country. I have a very recent experience regarding this, which occurred in a supposed to be forward city like Mumbai.
However, this does not mean that the things that S.Koreans do are justified. What is wrong is wrong. The S.Korean hatred towards other Asians and Africans is equally horrific. Racism by S.Koreans towards any particular group is not justified just because that particular group has its own issues. And frankly speaking, S.Korea can ban this ban of Indians and Pakistanis in their public spaces, but they did not do anything about it till now. Works well in making me never wanting to visit the country.
Also, I have written my experience in Mumbai in 2024 in the spoiler box below.
Please note that this is my personal opinion which I am not imposing on anyone. I can live very well without Korean dramas in my life. Chinese dramas are more unique and have explored a wide variety of genres. And I say this not just in favor of period dramas, but also modern dramas. China has so many mainstream contemporary dramas that I love a lot, where acting is given priority over looks. Koreans prioritize beauty over everything (with few exceptions only). Serious dramas like 'She and Her Girls', 'Minning Town', 'A Lifelong Journey', 'Ordinary World', 'Three Body', 'Like a Flowing River', 'Romance in the Alley', 'To The Wonder', 'Meet Yourself', 'City of Sunlight' and such are not simply there in Kdramaland (only WLGYT compares, but there also if they chose actors who looked realistic for the era it's set in, it would have been better. Still a commendable show.) Dramas that focus on small towns and villages and their relaxing tone are my favorite, but here also Korea failed for me as their portrayal of villagers as rude people irritates me instead. I simply cannot connect with a lot of well rated and popular kdramas as I often find them to be completely overrated. I love very few kdramas. When it comes to Korea, their films are 1000 times better.
They do make good thrillers, but so do other E.Asian countries. So it won't matter much to me if I give up on Kdramas completely.
Is everyone just ok with the casual anti-black racism at the beginning of the show?
That was indeed out of nowhere & the only thing that I found negative in the entire show. I have seen so much worse in Korean dramas like Strong Woman Do Bong Soon (which included racist Indian scenes throughout the show and on top of that was extremely homophobic and glorified domestic abuse) and Sh**ing Stars (the 'Africa' thing runs throughout the show). There were also King The Land, See You in my 19th Life, WWWSK, Backstreet Rookie, The Racket Boys, Little Women, Penthouse, Ms. Hammurabi, Modern Farmer, High Kick 3, the recent Undercover High School and so many more. I wish drama makers, especially Korea understands that what they are doing is not funny at all.
In case of South Korea, they are so racist towards non-whites that the people there treat Indians and South East Asians as untouchables and ban them from entering certain spaces. S.Koreans are so racist that here in India there is a place where S.Koreans also live and they have banned us from entering restaurants and other public spaces in that area. We as Indians are banned from entering spaces that are present in our own country. The amount of disgust I have towards such people is immense.
Ah yes, another MDL user unable to digest other user's opinions once again. Weren't you just going off about how you love to see 'underrated boring drama stans crying over popular kdramas?' And here you are crying about me liking a heavily popular kdrama. Hypocritical much?
Almost 95% of the above 8 rated Korean dramas on this website are rated way higher than what they deserve in my opinion. As an example, I very recently tried a certain 8.8 rated k-drama with lots of expectations since other E.Asian dramas rated this high were always worth it. However, I was left disappointed. It was nothing special. Meanwhile there are too many Japanese, Taiwanese and Chinese(non idol) dramas that are heavily underrated.
Gems like 'A Lifelong Journey', 'Romance in the Alley', 'She and Her Girls', 'Minning Town', 'Iribito', 'Kaidan Botan Doro', 'Anone', 'Hanbun Aoi' & much more are terribly underrated internationally when they clearly deserve above 9.0 score. The few k-dramas that I felt deserved their score were 'The Light in your Eyes'(this deserved above 9.0 score), 'Light Shop', 'Strangers From Hell', '2521', 'Nobody Knows' and 'WFKBJ'.
Chinese dramas like this show barely get views internationally, leave alone the fighting for ratings. See pages for dramas like A Lifelong Journey, She and Her Girls, Minning Town, Like a Flowing River, Romance in the Alley, Romance of Our Parents and Ordinary World for example. Well rated slice of life dramas like Meet Yourself and To The Wonder have peaceful comment section too.
One woman was talking to someone on the phone on how happy she was to hear about the death of Muslims in a stampede, saying that 'thank god, a burden has been lifted off the earth'. This woman was a Jain, and Jainism promotes peace and non-violence. Throughout my stay, this woman kept sprouting her islamphobic nonsense to everyone around her. The funny thing was that she loved watching Pakistani dramas.
When this woman discovered my love for Chinese dramas, thanks to the non-existent privacy, she started to 'advice' me to not be too fond of Chinese people as they eat everything they can. I lost it over this. I am a peaceful introverted woman, but there is a limit till which a person can stay silent. I told her how racist she was being, which was countered by her telling me that her far relative had went to 'Vietnam' and saw people eat horrible foods. Hearing this, I tried reasoning with her about respecting the diets of people. But the vegetarians and vegans here feel superior, and she was one too. I told this woman how there are various groups that consume the supposed to be 'odd' foods in this country too. What did this woman respond? Those are tribals not Indians. At this point, I wanted to slap this idiot. I was fuming, Yet I controlled myself and replied 'to me, it doesn't really matter what 'odd' foods people around the globe eat. I am a non-vegetarian unlike you and am very keen on exploring different cultures.' She knew I was an non-vegetarian, still she tried to advice me. I also told her that in reality, Hinduism never forbade people from consuming meats and Hindus around the country eat non-veg. I gave her examples of people eating meat as per Hindu religious texts. She was too stunned to speak, and looked offended. This woman was half Hindu too, yet her knowledge on both her religions was 0. All of what she knew stemmed from the hate propaganda. She was also super hypocritical, as she was also a Korean drama fan.
She limited her xyz phobias and racism around me after this incident, but she talked about it with the other 2 equally xyz phobic and racist women. Oh, and btw this woman thought she could 'advice' me because she knew I was an introvert and according to her, that automatically made me naive, innocent, pure, and easy to take advantage of. She felt that it was her duty to advice me, an completely innocent and pure woman. Prior to her sinophobic discussion, the day before she called me and as if I am a kid or something, started explaining me how the world works. She kept yapping about the importance to open up and socialize. She was hellbent on taking me to watch some sh**ty bollywood film that I had 0 interest in, claiming that this experience will help me mature. I was pissed. I declined her, saying that I am busy with work and have no time to waste. Upon mentioning work, she started crying about how I am being taken advantage of by my studio as I am so busy with work everyday. I told her this is how job life is in the design industry and people working in my studio worked even harder. She refused to listen to what I said and kept insisting I was being taken advantage of as I am too naive and afraid to speak. This woman was testing my patience. She was a college going student studying something completely different, and I had more experience than her. I straight up told her that I am super tired of being labelled as someone naive and innocent and being treated like a toddler during my whole school life for being an introvert and I don't want those horrible memories to return. I told her how idiotic she was to think that I am too innocent for the world just because I am an introvert. That I don't need her to teach me the ways of the world. I finished by telling her that I will live my life as I want and she is no one to disturb my flow of life, and that she should not take any offence to what I said considering she was the one who attacked my personality. She was again too stunned to speak and it looked like I deeply offended her.
Mentioning another incident, a new woman had come to live with us for a short period of time. She was a Marathi and went in the same school as that woman, so they both were acquaintances. One random day, the same woman I was talking about was telling this new woman on how she finds Marathi language disrespectful and bad, because of the lack of honorifics. The other 2 Jain women took her side, and they talked about how beautiful their Gujrati and Marwari language was for having 'honorifics'. The new woman was unable to speak, and I knew she was offended. So I told these idiots how every language is unique and speaking a certain language doesn't give you any privilege. This was when the new woman pitched in, describing how sweet and lovely her language is. But these women were not at all interested and kept pushing their agenda. And these 3 were the same that thought of English as a sophisticated language, when even English lacks honorifics the same way Marathi does. This new woman then while leaving the PG told me how she liked no one other than me and an other respectful quiet woman during her stay as those 3 Jain women treated her like an unwanted woman.
These 3 women were also homophobic and transphobic and kept sharing their views throughout my stay. Being a bisexual woman myself, I was forced to hide my sexuality. These were the kind of women who will stain my name saying they fear me liking them, so I had to live in an extremely cautious manner. When I told my sister about this, I almost got teary eyed thinking about how I have to live so cautiously so that they don't treat me like a criminal. I was so happy to be treated normally in my college as an bisexual woman, that it was quite hard to hide my actual self in a city as 'forward' as Mumbai. Whenever these girls found about someone being either gay, bisexual, lesbian or belonging to the LGBTQ community, they said horrible things about them. They treated them as untouchables.
In the end I left that PG due to both that creepy guy I mentioned in the beginning and also due to these women. When I left, I told them that I was leaving due to aunt's creepy son. That particular girl seemed deeply offended on this guy's behalf, when she herself said she disliked him. She told me that I could've discussed this with them before (I did) and that they would have solved my issue. So now, I was being shamed to leave due to this creepy man as if this man was innocent and I was falsely accusing him. She herself used to go on and on about how creepy and annoying this dude was, all the while taking care of him as if he were a toddler. This dude was 35 year old, 14 years older than this woman. Yet, she took his side whenever he was busy wasting his mother's hard earned money (aunt was the sole earner, her husband passed away when her son was small). She not only used to open the door for this dude at 3am, she also ordered me to do the same. I was both creeped out and scared for myself, so I told her to keep me away from this mess. That somehow offended her too. This pathetic 35 year old is a story for another day, I won't talk more about him. I blocked this lady as soon as I escaped from the PG. I felt like I was the main character of 'Strangers from Hell' while living there. This experience is also why I love this drama's portrayal of different issues (minus the racism ofc).
Anyways, this was my horrible experience living in Mumbai. Apart from all of this, this 'advanced' city was littered with trash and people openly defecated in areas as posh as Bandra. The only good thing from Mumbai was the food. I will never live in that city ever again however. My experience has stained it forever. The supposed to be 'backward' city I live in is 1000 times better for me. Sorry for the long rant, I barely get to speak to people about my experience, so when I got the opportunity to, I couldn't stop myself.
However, this does not mean that the things that S.Koreans do are justified. What is wrong is wrong. The S.Korean hatred towards other Asians and Africans is equally horrific. Racism by S.Koreans towards any particular group is not justified just because that particular group has its own issues. And frankly speaking, S.Korea can ban this ban of Indians and Pakistanis in their public spaces, but they did not do anything about it till now. Works well in making me never wanting to visit the country.
Also, I have written my experience in Mumbai in 2024 in the spoiler box below.
They do make good thrillers, but so do other E.Asian countries. So it won't matter much to me if I give up on Kdramas completely.
In case of South Korea, they are so racist towards non-whites that the people there treat Indians and South East Asians as untouchables and ban them from entering certain spaces. S.Koreans are so racist that here in India there is a place where S.Koreans also live and they have banned us from entering restaurants and other public spaces in that area. We as Indians are banned from entering spaces that are present in our own country. The amount of disgust I have towards such people is immense.
Gems like 'A Lifelong Journey', 'Romance in the Alley', 'She and Her Girls', 'Minning Town', 'Iribito', 'Kaidan Botan Doro', 'Anone', 'Hanbun Aoi' & much more are terribly underrated internationally when they clearly deserve above 9.0 score. The few k-dramas that I felt deserved their score were 'The Light in your Eyes'(this deserved above 9.0 score), 'Light Shop', 'Strangers From Hell', '2521', 'Nobody Knows' and 'WFKBJ'.