Niina no Papa

They both betrayed each other. He was head over heels over her, therefore you don't marry someone else when you're in love with someone, he knew she was going to go dancing, she didn't fully reject him, he knew she would be back, therefore he betrayed her. It's just that simple. I'll say it again, you ONLY marry out of love, no other reason, NONE. I believe what the Bible teaches and nobody will sway me otherwise, so you're talking to a brick wall. He should have fallen out of love first with Se Ra, then fallen in love with Mi Young long before he got married to her. Do I feel sorry for Se Ra, no freakin way, she got what she deserved, selfishness never wins in the end, what goes around comes around, so like you, I so agree with you, she got her's in the end, she lost someone because that someone wasn't #1 to her, none of us want to be 2nd choice, but it was still betrayal on his part because he knew she'd be back, he should have told her it was over between them before he married, he never did, he just got married, and with the intentions of divorcing Mi Young in 10 months then go back to Se Ra, no, I don't care what you say, that is betrayal in every form of the way. I don't blame him for falling in love with Mi Young either, she's a real sweetheart, except for the fact she would have gone through with the abortion, for which she was a royal bitch and a piece of trash for doing so, she is a real sweetheart, who wouldn't fall in love with her loving personality. I don't feel compassion though for her miscarriage, she doesn't deserve that baby on account of her going through with the abortion. ONLY reason that abortion didn't happen is ALL thanks to Gun, any woman that goes through with abortion is not human... But no, I don't blame him at all for falling in love with Mi Young, he should have fallen out of love with Se Ra, fallen in love with Mi Young, then get married to Mi Young, he had it all backwards and twisted all around, therefore betrayal to Se Ra. Now him leaving Mi Young so she doesn't have to worry about him and his disease, that's not love, that's just being selfish, you don't divorce for ANY reason, only excuse for a divorce, wrong though it is, is adultery. He did right by telling her he didn't love her anymore but he needed to do that long before he got married, even before loving Mi Young he needed to do that...

And that's why writers who write these kinds of things are sick twisted and despicable, it doesn't happen in real life, and who in their right mind would make the audience, for the most part, angry and hate the drama? Despicable I tell ya, despicable. Any writer that write this kind of garbage crap are trash, less than human, and likewise with people who enjoy this kind of drama... To watch hurt being afflicted on others is loathsome and despicable...

@Whit_eonni, I was only going by one of the synopsis's that I had read, she was on her way to get an abortion when the accident happened, thereby or hence the miscarriage, but from what the synopsis had said was she was going to have the abortion because of Anna's, as you just said, and I fully agree, stupid and despicable abortion agreement. I haven't watched it yet, but will be starting to watch it(Taiwanese version) tomorrow... :))) I don't show compassion for anybody that aborts their baby whereas I show tons of compassion for miscarriage, my heart breaks for women who have miscarriages. The pain and anguish women feel after they abort their child, it's too bad too sad for you, you deserve every bit of it for aborting your child, no matter what, I loath women that abort their child. Hate me for it, I don't care, that is how strongly I feel about it. There is ABSOLUTELY no excuse for abortion, hence, my heart breaks for Mi Young. I don't know the situation other than what the synopsis says, maybe it is wrong, and if she had the accident while not going to get an abortion, if she didn't even have the idea of having an abortion, nor was going to have it, then I would have compassion on her, but to be honest, now that I think about it, I don't feel bad for Mi Young either because she WAS having the abortion, had it not been for Gun coming and taking her away, she would have aborted that baby, so no, I don't feel sorry for Mi Young at all for the miscarriage, what goes around comes around. If she had had that baby, it would have only been an undeserved blessing, an undeserved gift from God, all children are for that matter, but no, no compassion here from me since, if Gun had not come, she wouldn't have had the miscarriage because that child would have already been aborted... At the time, watching that episode, I was, I was calling her a stupid, selfish, f'in bitch, piece of trash for what she was doing. I fully praised Gun, she didn't deserve to have that child for her decision. Forgiveness, in that case, that's a real bitter pill to swallow for Gun, I have to give him a ton of credit for doing what he did by going and searching and finding her in time. She doesn't deserve to have children after deciding and going through with the abortion, then to say she's going to keep the child, nope, I'd be taking her to court and I'd win custody over that one, she gave up her right the minute she went through with the abortion. There I've had my say, hate me if you will, but I'm right and I know I'm right, and millions of Christians know I'm right...

@Haven, You don't marry just because you had a child, you marry because you love that person, I don't care who it is, and I stick by my guns and if you hate me for it, too bad for the people that hate me for this, but divorce is wrong wrong WRONG!!! Don't marry then divorce because you don't love each other, he betrayed Se Ra, no if's, and's or but's. I know only too well the importance of children, I have two of them, and it breaks my heart that I can't be with them all the time, but you don't marry for responsibility or obligation, and if you think he was right in what he did, you mean to tell me that making up a divorce agreement right after was right as well? If so, that is so twisted and sick type of thinking. No, he betrayed Se Ra just as much as she betrayed him by going back to New York, and she knew what Macau was all about, she had the hunch he was going to propose to her, no, you don't marry out of responsibility or obligation, just like arranged marriages made by parents, they're just as wrong, you marry because of love. We are so in disagreement over that one. You said your piece, I said mine, I'm not going to start arguing or debating, you feel the way you do, and I feel the way I do. Both Gun and Se Ra are just as wrong as the other. I really love Mi Young and it is because of her personality that Gun slowly falls in love with her, but that doesn't justify him getting married when he was in love with Se Ra. That is my humble opinion, and it's just plain common sense. I married my 2nd wife out of responsibility for my little daughter's sake(profile picture), and it didn't end well at all, as I said before, divorce is wrong and marrying out of responsibility is even more wrong, especially when it ends in divorce. I loved her mother but she didn't love me. She married because of her father's insistence, and had I known that I wouldn't have married her. I'm living proof of marrying out of responsibility. Mi Young started to love Gun loooooong before he started loving her. A financial escape my butt, he didn't want to lose being CEO of the company, nor did his grandmother, that marriage wasn't even about the child, it was about losing power of the company, in other words, greed and selfishness. He married all for all the wrong reasons, I can give many more reasons how it was wrong for him to marry Mi Young, but shan't get into it. Like a lady down below said, Se Ra was selfish and blew her chance, she betrayed Gun by going back and so I don't feel sorry for her one bit. Selfish doesn't win in this world, what goes around comes around, she wanted to be selfish and follow her dreams, well, it bit her right on the her royal butt, she got it coming by losing him. Looks good on her. She didn't deserve Gun for what she did, none whatsoever, if you love someone, they should be #1, not your career, not your dreams, it is one or the other, a husband or stay single, she chose her dream, so she made her bed, now she has to sleep in it. Simple as that. You can take care of someone and not be married to them, you can see and take care of the child just as much, I know and know of hundreds of relationships where the mother and father aren't married but the father is just almost as much a part of the child's life as the mother's, it's not as ideal, but why marry and hurt the other person like Gun was with Young at first? No, I so disagree with you. You only marry for love and love only. I believe in the Bible, and the Bible gives only love for the reason of marriage. Logically speaking, of course I would choose Mi Young just and only because of her personality, but let the love grow between them by seeing each other and each other realizing the love that is growing between them before getting married, first of all, Se Ra betrayed Gun by following her dreams, so let Gun fall out of love for her before he falls in love with Mi Young, only then should he have married Mi Young. Society today is SOOOOOOOO wrong, and everybody needs to get back to the basics and meaning of love and marriage. Yeah, I so strongly disagree with your views, just as you disagree with me.

As for Se Ra, no, no compassion here at all, she chose to be selfish and follow her dreams over Gun, she so deserved what she got, it is Gun who I feel so sorry and compassion for, he goes to Macau, expecting to propose, and she chooses to fly to New York, it's like forget about you, I want my dream. She didn't love him enough, he didn't deserve that, she was the 1st to betray him, you don't do that. I wouldn't give her the time of day if that had happened to me, it'd be, SEE YA, DON'T WANNA BE YA, TOO BAD TOO SAD FOR YOU!!!" You said 6 years together, well, in that 6 years, she should have known what she wanted, and she chose what she wanted, her dream was more important than Gun, so yeah, no compassion from me, she got her reward, what she did was rejected him by going to New York, she made her decision, did she regret it afterwards? Oh yeah she did, but it bit her in her bitch butt. Nope, I don't feel sorry for her, not one solitary bit. You are so right, she shouldn't be placing ANY blame on Mi Young, she can and should only blame herself for HER OWN actions. And Daniel needs to learn it's hand's off another man's wife. Mi Young nor Gun hurt her, she hurt herself by choosing her ballerina dancing over Gun, it's just that simple.

Haha, I like that, you stole my line, it's just my humble opinion. :)))

And of course, it is all in my most humble opinion, but I'm in a real deep hole of bitterness from hurt by women and so I am super sensitive and see things way more than other people because I've been there, and I have been there in both situations, marrying for my daughter's sake, and at the other end, being hurt because someone decided to choose their career over me after 3 yrs of being together, so yeah, I see the pain, hurt and wrong in both situations, and it's not a nice feeling at all.... If you were to have either situation happen to you, you wouldn't feel the same as you do now, believe me, and of course, that is in my most humble opinion, but nobody, NOBODY understands or knows what it's like unless they've been down that very same road.

Oh, and Daniel needs to leave her the crap alone, she's married for Pete's sake, at the photo shoot in ep9, wtf, I so hate despicable and shallow people like that. And what's with the romantic songs they play when the supporting actor or actress is trying for the main character, to me that just ruins the drama a little bit, it just trashes the drama even more, likewise showing clips of the supporting actors/actresses like we're to fall in love with them when really, they are only part of the background noise, such as Daniel as the end of the episodes, I don't want to see someone that knows better than to fight for someone else's wife... That's how I feel anyway... But yeah, as to Daniel, he really needs to freak off, GIVE IT UP ALREADY!!!! Aish!!! Sheeesh!!!

I read from your post she has a miscarriage, I'm so glad they chose to use a miscarriage instead of the original Taiwanese Fated to Love You drama where they had her have an abortion. :)))

I spoke to a Taiwanese friend of mine and she said what happens in this drama just never happens in Taiwan, like I said, the writer(s) is just plain sick, twisted, and despicable, I hope this drama gets dropped for low ratings, it doesn't deserve any rating for the bullshit kind of drama that it is...

Hehe, yeah, his laugh sounds so evil and conniving, so wicked...

He didn't do the right thing, he wasn't forced, he had the last say in the matter, they may have different values, but I have spoken to many different Korean friends, and I've been told that not all people there are like that, and today's society is not like years ago, he could have said no to his grandmother, and still be a father to the child, his love for Se Ra wasn't strong enough, therefore he betrayed her, at the same time, Se Ra's love for him wasn't strong enough either, her dancing was more important than he was, and his position was more important to him than Se Ra was. I am liking of the romance has developed between Gun and Young, but both Se Ra doesn't deserve Gun for what she did by running back to New York to dance, and Gun doesn't deserve Young for betraying Se Ra. I don't think they were just acting as to being in love, I believe they were in love with each other, and very much so, but not enough to sacrifice dancing and position of CEO. So when you said she's selfish, he's just as selfish, both really deserve to die old and lonely for what they both did to each other. This is of course, in my most humble opinion... :)))

He betrayed Le Si, so I don't care how it ends, you betray someone, that's it, you made your choice, he made his, he didn't love her enough, had he loved her enough, he would never have gotten married. There's no excuses, none whatsoever, NONE!!! Him not marrying into that trash of a family was the only redeeming part of this drama, I'm so done, he's just as despicable and shallow as Huan Huan and her idiotic and deserving to rot and burn family...

But at the same time, like you said, she HAD her chance and she blew it. Still doesn't excuse the fact he betrayed her to begin with by getting married for position and money. I have mixed emotions concerning both sides, in that, had she shown up, things would have been so different, but like I said, he could have said no to his grandmother and said he was waiting for Se Ra, I'm finding fault equally on both sides... The one I so feel bad for is Mi Young, she's getting the short brunt of the stick on all ends, she's just such a most caring person, my heart broke and is breaking for her.

I agree with you as to her having had her chance and all, but he's worse than her in that he didn't HAVE to get married, he KNEW she would be back and that she wanted that role in New York, he KNEW what she was like already, so yeah, I blame him much more than I do her, he 100% betrayed her by marrying Mi Young, so as much as I don't condone her actions, I fully understand her actions, you don't love someone and marry another, for any reason.

Lee Gun's an f'in jackass and asswipe for betraying Se Ra to begin with, I'm not talking about the one night stand with Mi Young because he didn't know on account of being drugged, but he betrayed her by marrying Mi Young, I fully understand Se Ra's actions, I don't condone her actions, but I don't blame her, just put yourself in her shoes, how would you feel if you were betrayed like that? Yeah, I don't blame her at all.

I can understand Se Ra doing what she's doing and how she's feeling, Lee Gun betrayed her, although I have to say, she was a bitch for going back to New York instead of meeting him in Macau, but still, he shouldn't have gotten married to Mi Young, no, he betrayed her, and so yeah, I fully understand why she's doing what she's doing, I don't condone it, but fully understand. Put yourself in her shoes, how would you feel if the one who supposedly loves you betrays you the way he did by marrying Mi Young? As to the one night stand, I can't blame him because he was drugged and didn't know what he was doing, but to marry just for a child and just to get what he'll get for marrying Mi Young, that is just soooooo wrong...

As much as I'm enjoying this, shame on Lee Gun for betraying his girlfriend Se Ra by marrying Mi Young, and that will be the reason why this will get a below par rating from me.

Yeah, you really and honestly don't want to watch this trash sochiichi, wow, you so don't want to watch this, and if someone that loves this kind of thing is just as twisted and sick as these f'in writers, just horrid...

Yeah, you really and honestly don't want to watch this trash sochiichi, wow, you so don't want to watch this, and if someone that loves this kind of thing is just as twisted and sick as these f'in writers, just horrid...

Lu Tian Xing doesn't deserve Le Si for betraying her in ep11, ep11 just now absolutely ruined and destroyed the whole drama, it was already 80% ruined because of that trash family.

Exactly, this is so f'in DROPPED, the writer is so twisted and absolutely sick in the head, where do they find writers like this??? Lu Tian Xing doesn't deserve Le Si for betraying her in ep11, ep11 just now absolutely ruined and destroyed the whole drama, it was already 80% ruined because of that trash family, he ruined the rest of it for me. F'in jackass, he's just as bad as the trash family...

I'm so sorry, but Lu Tian Xing is an f'in bastard, asshole, jackass for marrying that f'in piece of trash, this is so dropped, I'm ready to smash anything and everything right now I'm so livid, smoke is coming out of my ears, I'm literally seeing stars from being so f'in angry, literally I'm shaking and I haven't been so angry like this in years, this is soooo dropped, sorry for the language, but he is, he's an f'in asswipe, he's just as bad as Huan Huan and her trash family... He betrayed Le Si and that just totally ruined this for me, the only reason I was continuing to watch this f'in drama was to see him stay true to Le Si, and yeah, whoever wrote this is really sick in the head, totally despicable and twisted, absolutely sick and doesn't deserve to live for writing shit like this... Wow!!!