dramalover729

I can understand how someone may not like non-consensual sex, even in fiction, but what I cannot understand is how he/she thinks everyone should agree with him/her. Stories have non-consensual beating-up, killing, theft, etc., and the main characters may do these things, and may (or may not) become good later on.
I too dislike the billionaire seme trope, but thankfully it is rarer in BL than in het. But I don't expect everyone to share my dislike.

Why, where are you going?

My top BL's are mostly Thai -- 1000 stars, SOTUS, Cherry Magic (thai), Dark Blue Kiss, Bad Buddy ...

aska, you are very articulate in pin-pointing my issues with people's complaints about toxic behavior in fiction. And in another response further down, in your explaining how you are able to look past production, acting etc. to simply immerse yourself and enjoy at least the good looking characters.

Do you own "queer space"?

She said: forced down [women's] throat for 14 episodes. Wow, is Fujoshibabe19 saying now that the women who read it were assaulted?

Exactly, Shoi. The OP (Fujoshibabe99) seems to think that any show that somehow gets defined as BL (by whom? there is no official classification) has to be enjoyable to fujoshi primarily. In fact, fujoshi group did enjoy it finally, right? The OP draws all sorts of conclusions that the staff are all gay cis men, women like effeminate men in BL (almost all male leads in BL act straight and masculine) etc.
The OP can of course dislike the show, but I don't like her know-it-all conclusions. "but I can assure you women fans of BL did not ask for this" "Everything that women, queer or not, and femmes ran away from mainstream gay media to escape was forced back down their throats for 14 excruciating and traumatic weeks" -- and you speak for all women how?

I agree with you, Miikii. Besides, there is no need to define it as rape or not in the show -- they leave it up to the audience to form their own conclusions. As far as showing immorality (like rape) goes, many people think gay is immoral.

Thank you for raising your voice (again). I won't raise mine, though.

OK, jpny01. Let us just agree to disagree.

Enjoyable? You could have fooled me with your review.

The court case was interestingly written, and I understand that it left a bad taste in the reader's mouth. You seem to acknowledge that everyone has the right to enjoy what they like, but I disagree with you on these:
(1) you also seem to think that it is everyone's responsibility to NOT enjoy things that bother you as anti-gay as their enjoyment actively endorses homophobia

(2) two men falling in love have to be shown as gay in some sense. Gay is a western identifying label that some people have created and choose to apply to themselves and others. Not Japanese or even universal in the west.

(3) we have to get with it, and shed what we enjoyed in 2014 to jump onto the 2024 bandwagon.

(4) many movies don't show kissing and skin contact. Their privilege. I hardly noticed the lack.

(5) Even the so-called movies that have homophobia and gay identification NEVER have ugly gay protagonists, so that criticism of this particular movie is false.

(6) You say that the protagonists are straight-coded, but they are in love with men. You mention another straight-coded guy who also does not say he is gay, but just that he has a boyfriend, but cite him as a non-straight-coded guy, even though my gaydar did not catch him. WTF?

I am fine with you watching what you like, and even complaining about the quality. But implying that it is homophobia to produce, consume or enjoy this kind of BL is where I will raise my voice to counter you.

I am a man, btw, who finds that he enjoys men much more than any of the women he has had relations with. I love BL.

Some people are attracted to jerks. So Third went for Khai not in spite of Khai being a jerk, but because of it.

I completely share your perspective, explained so sensitively to Geminieye.