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"Delusions of grandeur" is a shield when the actual point of the conversation is a bit too heavy for you to carry. When people can’t argue with the logic, they usually resort to mocking the tone. It’s not “delusions of grandeur” to possess basic media literacy. If you’re struggling to see the subtext, just say that. It’s okay to admit the plot is moving faster than you are.

It’s fascinating how people reach for the word 'reductive' when they lack the range to address the actual hierarchy of harm being discussed. If pointing out that systemic violence is objectively worse than infidelity feels 'reductive' to you, it’s because your moral compass is calibrated to prioritise hurt feelings over destroyed lives. Confident delivery isn't my problem, this selective outrage is.

It’s fascinating that this comment section is more traumatised by a woman’s infidelity than by the literal pedos and predators in the plot. This drama isn't a “cheating story” it’s a mirror to a society that would rather obsess over a private scandal than face the industrial scale violation of women and minors.


Read the review I just wrote if a 'messy' woman makes you angrier than systemic sexual violence.

The way her subordinates weren’t even half as mad about getting transferred as some of you people in the comments is actually sending me 😭. If she was truly that unbearable, the people working under her would be the first to celebrate leaving. Instead, they’re literally asking to stay with her.

She’s “arrogant” when she needs to be aka when she’s doing her job. And the fact that her own team respects her enough to want to keep working with her kinda kills the whole “she’s insufferable” narrative. Maybe what you people are calling arrogance is just competence without the sugar coating.

As to why people easily backflip into a conclusion that FL is annoying, I want to give an example. I watched “Art of Sarah” recently where FL is positioned as the narrative center. Even if she’s morally ambiguous, manipulative, or sharp, the camera lives with her. We understand her motives, her vulnerability, her emotional wounds. When she makes ruthless decisions, they feel layered rather than abrasive because we’re given interior access. So the difference is alignment, one is framed from the inside and the other from the outside. When a female character is the emotional protagonist, audiences tend to accept her complexity. When she stands as opposition to a male centered arc, especially one built on trauma and charisma, she’s judged more harshly.

I see that you have watched Parasite movie. If you have appreciated it for its layered storytelling and morally complex characters, then you’ll probably be fine with Bloody Flower. In Parasite, no character is purely likable or purely moral…they’re all flawed, strategic, reactive to power structures. Yet people did not call characters “annoying” every two seconds into the movie because they were focused on what characters represented rather than analysing their every move.

It’s similar here. The prosecutor isn’t written to be emotionally comforting. She represents institutional accountability in a narrative that emotionally aligns people with a charismatic criminal. If you fall fully into that alignment, she might feel disruptive but that doesn’t make her badly written. it

Low ratings and “FL is annoying” comments are coming from people who are reacting emotionally rather than analytically. If you enjoy morally tense plots, ethical debates, and characters who aren’t designed to be soft or pleasing, then it’s absolutely worth watching. Just don’t expect it to handhold you into who to like.

That’s the best compliment!! Thank you for taking time to read such lengthy comments haha.

I wanna keep Albert in my pocket and protect him. He is so precious and he better not get hurt 😭

I’m trying to understand the logic here. How is she acting “crazier” than the actual murderer? What specifically has she done that crosses professional boundaries? Being firm? Refusing to be emotionally manipulated? Taking a serial murder case seriously?
You say she should “just do her job” but that’s exactly what she’s doing. Prosecutors aren’t required to be emotionally neutral robots, especially in a case involving 17 murders. If she were smiling politely and speaking softly, would that suddenly make her more professional? Or just more palatable?

As for it feeling like a “personal grudge,” I think that perception comes from how the narrative frames her. We’re given emotional access to the murderer, we see his psychology, his reasoning, even his smug expressions framed as layered. We don’t yet get the same interiority with her, so her firmness reads harsher. That doesn’t mean she’s acting irrationally; it means we’re not positioned inside her perspective yet.
So the defense attorney acting out of personal benefit which is arguably “less professional”…. is acceptable, but a prosecutor being firm and uncompromising in a murder case is suddenly a problem? That contrast is interesting. He is operating with clear personal stakes, yet is seen as complex. The other is enforcing the law within her role, and she’s labeled annoying. If professionalism is the standard we’re applying, it should be applied consistently not selectively.

So I’m genuinely asking: is she actually behaving irrationally, or does it just feel that way because we’re emotionally aligned with the murderer and not her? Because those are two very different things.

Thank you for your kind words and taking the time to read this very lengthy review. English isn’t my first language, but my academic background required me to write detailed scientific reviews where precision was essential. In that context, even small mistakes could undermine the credibility of my entire argument. So it has become a habit of mine to present all my thoughts in a way that any warranted discussion will focus more on the substance/ perspective presented rather than the language itself.

People hiding blatant dislike behind “it’s just my opinion” or “I have a right to criticise” are more frustrating than the traits they claim to hate in the FL. If you’re allowed to criticise a character, others are allowed to question the consistency and reasoning of that criticism.

What stands out is how quickly people police a fictional woman’s tone while overlooking their own media literacy. I’ve watched plenty of dramas with these kind of narrative framing patterns where female leads are positioned to feel abrasive. So tell me why the focus is overwhelmingly on an “annoying” prosecutor rather than on a man who killed 17 people and calmly claims justification for it, or on a man prioritising personal benefit during a murder trial. The criticism is not at all consistent. She’s dissected for existing with sharp edges, while others are handed free moral passes for far “worse”.

Someone replied to me that her “no context smiling” is infuriating. Yet in the entire 3rd episode, Woogyeom smirks, appears remorseless, and carries a smug composure after multiple murders and that is framed as complex. The backlash feels less like nuanced critique and more like a familiar pattern….when a woman refuses to soften herself, irritation replaces analysis. And that pattern is what’s actually exhausting.

No one said criticism isn’t welcome. The issue isn’t people having opinions, it’s how quickly some opinions jump to extremes without engaging with what’s actually being presented. There’s a difference between thoughtful critique and reducing a character to “annoying” or “poorly written” just in initial episodes. “It’s just my opinion” is not an immunity clause that places that opinion beyond any scrutiny. If we’re going to critique a character, the logic behind that critique can also be examined. That’s how discussion works. No one is aggressively moral policing the other major characters who are clearly making questionable even ethically compromised decisions. A father prioritising personal gain during a murder trial? complex but understandable and layered. A serial killer smiling smugly after 17 murders? It is intriguing, psychological, worth analysing. But a prosecutor who wants to prosecute? That’s where the outrage peaks.If we’re truly discussing morality and character writing, the scrutiny should be proportional to the actions. Yet the harshest reactions are aimed at the person upholding the law rather than the people bending or breaking it. When the character enforcing accountability is more irritating than the character who committed the crime, it’s worth asking whether we’re reacting to her behavior or to how the story has positioned our sympathy. If praise is allowed and criticism is allowed, then analysis of that criticism should be allowed too.Calling someone “the problem” just because they’re questioning the reaction kind of proves the point. We’re all just discussing a show. Let’s at least do it with some depth.

It’s easier to mock a reflection than to sit with it. Woogyeom is allowed to be complex, we’re given space to explore his psychology and entertain the possibility that there’s “more” to him. But a prosecutor cannot be complex? She’s reduced to “annoying.” A killer doesn’t have to explain his smug expressions after committing multiple murders, but a prosecutor has to be palatable, emotionally pleasing, and somehow redeem herself to be tolerated on screen? That double standard is worth questioning. No context smiling? Context is she wants to prosecute the killer.

We see her being dismissed by Chief Pyo with the classic “you’re being sensitive because you’re a woman.” Women being labeled emotional or hysterical for asserting themselves is not new. So yes, she is firm. Yes, she can be sharp. But in a male dominated environment, do you really think she could survive professionally by softening herself to appease people who already dislike her?
Is she rude? Sometimes. But to whom and in what context? Being hard headed while prosecuting a killer doesn’t warrant the level of hostility she’s receiving. Especially when Woogyeom smirks constantly after murdering people and that’s framed as intriguing rather than irritating. If we’re going to critique, let’s critique consistently.

Sorry for the notification spam again but I wanted to make additional points after watching the 3rd episode. After really sitting with this new perspective, the prosecutor genuinely stopped annoying me. Looking at her through a different lens changed how I interpreted her tone and reactions. I’m not saying you have to feel the same way, but I do hope you’ll give that perspective a chance. Sometimes shifting where we emotionally stand in a story can completely change how a character reads.

I understand the frustration, honestly. I got ragebaited into writing a review after reading all these comments. Instead of engaging with what the story is trying to do, some comments read like people are upset that the drama isn’t matching their personal expectations of how a character “should” behave.

Constructive criticism is completely valid but there’s a difference between analysing writing choices and constantly nitpicking because a character doesn’t fit a preferred template. Not every lead is meant to be comforting, agreeable, or instantly likable. Sometimes discomfort is intentional.

And you’re right! if a show genuinely feels unbearable, it’s okay to drop it. Continuing to watch something you actively dislike just to complain about it every episode feels counterproductive. Fiction isn’t obligated to align perfectly with individual taste. It’s okay for a story to challenge expectations instead of conforming to them.

Sharing an opinion is one thing. Reducing a character to “annoying” every time she appears without engaging with what the story is doing is another. No one is saying people cannot dislike her. But when the criticism stops at surface level irritation and refuses to examine context, framing, or double standards, it stops being thoughtful critique and starts being repetitive negativity.

The only thing I can’t stand is how quick people are to scream ‘annoying’ instead of engaging their brain for 5 minutes. The only thing annoying here is the lack of media literacy. If a prosecutor doing her job bothers you more than a serial killer, that’s not a poorly written character, that’s a comprehension issue. She is not poorly written, you are just impatient. If you’re that triggered by a woman enforcing the law, maybe unpack that. My review on this drama might help.

I came here to talk about episode 3, but it’s hard not to notice how aggressively shallow the takes are. After the layers we’re starting to see, reducing her to “poorly written” feels incredibly surface level. There are clear complexities being presented, you just have to be willing to look past initial irritation.

Complex female characters aren’t always pleasant. They’re not always warm. They’re not built to soothe you. If what you want is a neatly packaged, emotionally convenient female lead who smiles softly and stays in the background, there are PLENTY of dramas that provide that template. But the moment a female character is rigid, morally uncompromising, and not designed for comfort, she’s suddenly “badly written”? That’s take is just embarrassing. At least engage with what’s actually being presented before defaulting to the laziest possible conclusion.

Edit: People are tossing around random buzzwords in the comments and calling it analysis, without backing anything up with actual examples. If you’re going to be this passionate about calling a fictional character annoying after every episode, at least be specific.
“Poorly written” how?
“Doesn’t let the criminal talk” and? What does that prove?
“Crazier than the murderer” seriously? We might as well start saying she kidnapped 3 families and runs a smuggling ring if we’re just making exaggerated claims.
“Manipulates evidence” where and when?
If you’re going to criticise, point to actual scenes. Give context and explain your reasoning. Because right now, it just feels vague and reactionary. We’re being presented with morally complex, layered characters and all some of you can come up with is “the FL is so annoying.” It’s technically a difference in opinion, but it becomes more than that when people frame their personal dislike as objective criticism without giving any explaination.

I enjoyed this drama a little too much! it truly felt like a breath of fresh air to me. It was nice to watch a story that focused wholeheartedly on revenge, justice, and meaningful platonic relationships, rather than centering everything around romance. Even though there were subtle hints of a possible romantic connection, I really appreciated that the drama didn’t force it or make it the main driving force of the plot.

I love how deeply the people around Judge Lee Han Yong valued and respected him in this life. Watching that loyalty and admiration unfold added so much emotional depth to the story. The relationships built on trust, respect, and shared purpose were far more interesting than a shoehorned love line would have been.

I’m not saying romantic relationships are unimportant in dramas, they absolutely have their place. But we’ve seen countless stories where romance takes center stage, sometimes at the expense of the main genre or premise. It was satisfying to see a drama stay true to its promise and fully explore its themes of revenge, justice, and strategic planning without feeling the need to insert forced romance for the sake of it.

I also loved how everything unfolded according to the main character’s plan. While some moments felt almost too smooth or convenient, it was still satisfying to watch his careful strategy pay off step by step. The execution may have been a bit idealised, but emotionally, it delivered.

Glad to see like minded people who resonate with my thoughts finding me. Thank you for motivating me to voice my thoughts!!!

i thought i saw him art of sarah episode 5 22:17? I recognised that voice….. maybe im wrong

I don’t think I misunderstood you, I think we’re interpreting the same material differently. About the “no context smiling” and the supposedly personal reactions is exactly where framing matters. We are not given access to her internal monologue the way we are with him. So her micro expressions feel abrupt because the camera doesn’t sit with her perspective. When Woogyeom smiles under pressure, it’s layered and intriguing because we’re invited into his psychology. When she does, it feels jarring because we’re kept at a distance. As for it feeling “personal”, she’s prosecuting a man who murdered and mutilated 17 people and is actively provoking her. A controlled but sharp reaction to manipulation does not automatically equal immaturity. You’re saying it feels like revenge rather than professionalism. I’d argue that’s precisely because the script emotionally humanises him. So when she refuses to soften or empathise, it reads as excessive. But holding firm against a manipulative defendant is not a personal grudge, it’s maintaining authority in a high stakes case. It could be a writing or direction choice. But before labeling it “overreacting,” I think it’s worth asking whether we’re expecting her to be calmer, softer, or more emotionally neutral than we would expect a male prosecutor to be in the exact same circumstances.

I actually think the people’s reaction to her is the overreaction, not her behavior in the show. Not because criticism isn’t allowed, but because the scale of annoyance doesn’t match the scale of what she’s actually done on screen. Claiming her “not well written” after just two episodes (most comments I saw right after first 2 episodes were released) while directing disproportionate annoyance toward a prosecutor doing her job rather than toward the actual serial killer does say something. It reinforces my point about narrative framing. When the story gives us emotional access to the culprit and keeps her more external, viewers naturally align with him and scrutinise her more harshly. That doesn’t automatically mean she’s badly written.

Critiquing writing or acting choices is completely valid. But turning her into a rant trigger every time she appears suggests the reaction is bigger than the performance itself. Especially when the same traits, sternness, visible irritation, unwavering conviction rarely provoke this level of backlash in male characters.

Even if her intensity feels personal or like a revenge, why is that inherently annoying? We’ve seen countless prosecutors passionately pursue cases tied to personal stakes. In Judge Returns drama, Kim Jina relentlessly chases her own form of justice and she isn’t hated for it. The difference is that we were given her backstory and emotional alignment early on. That hasn’t happened here yet. I haven’t seen people expressing their annoyance vocally to this extent about that detective in Manipulated drama. He was not only corrupt but also a morally bankrupt man. With this example, I want to emphasise that narration matters.

So I don’t think she’s acting like a teenager or being unprofessional. If anything, she’s operating firmly within her role in an extreme case. And again my replies are not a personal attack on anyone, I’m not misunderstanding you, I’m putting more effort into understanding a misunderstood character.

I hear you, but that’s exactly why I think this needs to be dissected more carefully. When you say other female prosecutors didn’t annoy you but she does, the question becomes: what is actually different here, her actions, or the narrative alignment ?Objectively, what is she doing? She is investigating and prosecuting a man who has murdered and mutilated 17 people. She is firm, direct, and uncompromising. Male prosecutors in similar roles are often described as intense, righteous, or driven. So if her behavior is comparable, why does it register as “overreacting” instead of “passionate” or “principled”? The key difference is that this drama emotionally aligns us with Woogyeom. We are given access to his perspective, his pain, his reasoning. The script invites us to understand him or even justify him. She, on the other hand, is framed from the outside: strict, privileged, controlled. When you emotionally invest in one side, the opposing force will naturally feel harsher. That doesn’t mean she’s acting excessively, it means we’re primed to resist her. So when we call her “overreacting,” we have to ask: is she actually exceeding professional boundaries, or are we reacting to the discomfort of seeing someone disrupt a character we’re being encouraged to empathise with? Because so far, she’s not being dramatic, she’s being professional in an extreme case. The irritation may not be about performance at all. It may be about alignment.