enigmatic_zephy

1. Orchid is symbol of the society. Anyone being given an orchid means the direction is for him to sacrifice himself/herself for benefit of society.. aka kill yourself.. so whoever killed or got killed left behind an orchid

2. It is Sungha's dream to be the owner of society but her brother was favored since childhood.. so she used PJ as well.. and he was in love with her + had his ambitions and could throw away anyone and everyone for her... he sacrificed his father to get general to agree to marriage with SH

3. Orchid does create hallucination.. think of it as a debilitating yet a drug.. bound to make you happy.. so people even while killing themselves have a sense of happiness and are more willing to sacrifice themselves for the group

nice!

because they are making it obvious with the specs guy :D

but i don't know anymore. Ep 1, i was sure mastermind is SH and he is #11, but now i think taec is #11 and YJ is someone else (and seeking revenge on his sis killers and everything else)...

Shaman is not wrong in any prophecy so she is right about YJ killing everyone. Taec ain't YJ. No one is young enough except the cook and specy guy

killer is going for revenge, not for legal stuff

yup

ha ha.. i said that long back .. that that actor doesn't take meaningless roles.. but here's the thing.. he is still playing a genius.. is he really the villain?

Unless the drama really is not trying to be good at mystery, there is no way RSH is killer. RSH is too easy a guess

But problem is we don't have many suspects.. and this definitely is not one person job

We have the cook, the specs juror, and SJ
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i like your idea of SJ being real son and SH not.. but the only catch is his memories of #13 and #11 in all escape scenarios

i still think this is revenge for the rpe of the girl.. and death of the other kid

ya but we don't know if Taec is #11 himself

Jury being rigged was the biggest reason everyone thought that SH is the killer, and also he drew the final balls..

But that would be too easy.. so yes.. i think killer is involved in making sure this specific juror list gets selected but it is not SH

its obvious he is adopted

we haven't got a view of what that person does.. but SH is too blatant, so he won't be the answer/killer.. everyone has been guessing SH since ep 2.. they have to have a surprise..

pretty sure Taec is not #13 .. and they chose young actor who resembles taec for sure...

this is misleading game from crew

Theory-
1. All of RSJ's memories involve the two boys - #11 and #13. So, he is one of them.

2. We are made to feel that #13 is killer (today with shaman episode, last time delivery guy Kang only spoke/met #13)... why does Baek think #13 is killer? Who perpetrated that idea? Choi and Baek (and they think Taec is #13 because of the locket) BUT, show made it a point to show us that #11 also has the locket

3. We know eunki and RSJ are above 30 yrs. of age.. that was 20 years ago.. so Taec was def. >10 yrs of age... When #11 was being beaten (returning from policestation and was saved because crazy dog got pregnancy news) we see how he is tough... RSJ is tough

4. I am intrigued as to why we keep seeing Taec call restaurant lady mom and she being so protective of him.. because he is #11 ?? Didn't #11 ask the other young kid to find Mom and run away

Given how easy everything seems, maybe RSJ is indeed #11. And, he is being framed or NOT because #13 is angry for a) abandoning him b) forgetting all memories and leaving others with it

5. The restaurant lady actually got Juror request, but for whatever reason she rejected it :D .. why was she invited?
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Plus revenge has to be for the girl.. because so many kids got tortured but noone is taking revenge. Reason had to be huge and knowing your sis was rped and murdered is HUGE
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RSH might actually have nothing to do with this case. He really is just a red herring!!!
Eun Ki's girl does not recognize SH meaning he is not the rider
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We don't know what bespectled boy does for a living right?

problem is that everyone has been guessing SH is the main killer since almost ep 2.. it is way too obvious now.. so either the show was never planning to be so smart.. or he is a red herring too

Also, latest theory has potential that taec thinks he is #13, but maybe he isn't

what is the spectecled boy's job?

he doesn't have brother :O .. which brother.. there were 5 kids - #13 only had a sister who was killed (and her body shown in ep 8)

did 24 die for sure?

Let's see.. if we assume the 2 youngest kids are the cook and the specs juror, then taec can be #11.. BUT #11 was oldest so he has to be older than Manager Ahn... the only one who can be older is SH (but then this drama will be stupid because they have already made SH suspicious which makes no sense if he were to be a real killer)


SO, maybe SH truly is not from the orphanage.. and taec is indeed older.. and he is #11.. because all his memories are of #11 and #13 escaping.. so he is either #11 or #13

He has the locket. ONly 2 people have locket - #11 (girl gave hers to him) and #13 (brother sister)

Cool.. so taec is #11 you mean? SH is not related to murders. And, #13 is missing. So, between cook and bespectled guy amongst jurors are the final killer options. Since taec is #11, then #13 has to be really young. Only one young enough is the bespectled juror...

I didn't get your reasoning on how SH can be #13, he is older than taec

Blind is about ordinary people who turn blind eye to atrocities..and as you see.. everyone being killed/punished saw the torture of kids and turned a blind eye to it

Blind is about ordinary people who turn blind eye to atrocities..and as you see.. everyone being killed/punished saw the torture of kids and turned a blind eye to it

You know, you have a strong theory here!!!

There is no reason to believe that Taec is #13...

a) he says he has no memory of things, but remember in restaurant he said that his locket was given by a girl .. how does he remember that? Unless he got it but from some other girl after he got adopted (my bet is on Eun Ki, they met as kids probably.. either way i strongly think Eun ki witnessed that other girl's torture)

b) he is scared of dog etc yes.. but y does he need to be number 13..why can't he be the other kid that survived

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It is ep 8 only, and the show is making SH into the main mastermind/killer.. too early to expose.. unless we have got the numbers all wrong.. but there is no other character that fits #11.. so SH has to be the main killer and Taec has to be #13