enigmatic_zephy

what is papacito?

I understand what you saying, fully, and that is precisely what i am highlighting. Why keeping him off SNS is about protecting him? Because the backlash would be severe. Because, netizens will not focus on issue but will focus on their anger not being appeased...WHICH ISN"T THE ISSUE IN THE FIRST PLACE.. Issue is women rights and freedom to wear anything without being judged for it

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I just want to highlight the hypocrisy in the approach, that's all. This isn't about you. But, this is what happens everytime. There are better and more effective ways to handle this but SNS immaturity reflects in how every issue gets addressed the same way.

A celeb gets married, dates, does some minor thing here and there...and he has to go off social media, pause activities because otherwise netizens won't be appeased... SO WHEN DOES THIS STOP BEING ABOUT APPEASEMENT Vs Actually be about the issue in question...

And, that is what is truly disgusting

No you are wrong.. I am not defensive about Build... not at all.. but i do take offence in hypocrisy of mobs and majority... i do take offence is illogical targeting, i do take offence in when majority decides to do something without thinking it through... AND I DON"T UNDERSTAND WHY you would think yourself beyond that questioning... your behavior is also on social media and is going to influence... so, why would you not be under scrutiny for your thought process???

Hence i ask you to explain yourself and your decisions and whether what you want matches what you are asking for??... Why should you not be questioned?? You can't just throw words out there without responsibility...

I went back and re-read BOC's post. They say they didn't find anything post Build joined, which is atleast a yr's timeframe... and 2 yrs since he is associated with KP..

BUT you claim that recent posts were also found.

I strongly suggest you do a thorough check at your end because spreading misinformation and lies like that do not help. Yes, if on the offchance you are right... then it changes everything. Then, it is not a 8 yr old issue but a consistent pattern that existed as recently as last year..

BUT MAKE SURE YOU ARE IN THE RIGHT... otherwise this post by itself will become sickening and marred with lies.. and you just lead everyone else to lose credibility

I went back and re-read BOC's post. They say they didn't find anything post Build joined, which is atleast a yr's timeframe... and 2 yrs since he is associated with KP..

BUT you claim that recent posts were also found.

I strongly suggest you do a thorough check at your end because spreading misinformation and lies like that do not help. Yes, if on the offchance you are right... then it changes everything. Then, it is not a 8 yr old issue but a consistent pattern that existed as recently as last year..

BUT MAKE SURE YOU ARE IN THE RIGHT... otherwise this post by itself will become sickening and marred wiith lies.. and you just lead everyone else to lose credebility

BUT, the people should also know what are they asking for and what outcome is it really serving.. if it is genuinely about the issues then the punishment needs to support the cause, not primarily give people an outlet for their anger... so people do need to question, and others need to question these people as to what they are clamoring for

You will be surprised when the ask does not match the objective

( and the simplest contrary one i can point out to you - getting him off social media and asking him to stop interacting...how exactly does that serve your purpose of educating the gullible youth that what he said was and is wrong?? LOL... if you truly care about that awareness.. you would force it upon Build to promote the cause relentlessly, which trust you me can be a harsh punishment in itself...maybe way more powerful... because it shames you, pressurizes you , and gets something done.. BUT NO.. People want him off social media so that they can feel like justice dolers)

LASTLY, another user spread misinformation... which is sick...

And, i again ask, why not finding unproblematic stuff at 28 , at 27, at 26, at 25, at 24, at 23, at 22, at 21 is not of any importance???? This isn't about BUILD... it is about mob ideology)

8 yrs back!!!.. how many tweets is he going to read and delete???
And, we do know from women on sets that he has not been disrespectful in anyway. BOC comment also says that they never found this behavior once he joined them as artist..that is atleast 1.5 years... and yet you have users here who are constantly saying that tweets were found as recent as last year...

Spreading misinformation, twisting words...how is that right?

And, i agree with you... a better punishment is to make him promote the cause relentlessly (make it his job)... that would also teach him a good lesson (because every day no matter what platform he will have to talk about it).. but this sitting out, stopping social media etc..makes no sense.. not for fans.. but from the perspective of what purpose it serves.. all he is getting is.. take a break and come back without doing anything... NO NO.. Be in public eye, remind yourself of what you did and consciously propagate against it

cool.. so keyword being make it known what you said is wrong.. i am just putting it out there, which he should do everyday as a celeb.. taking away his work and stopping social media activity won't let him do that

I am not defending him. I am questioning you and the ones who "want him to prove he is changed" .. and i have all the right to pose those questions.. you guys should clarify your stance so that us lesser mortals can understand the entire logical thread

Because for most parts , it does not look like that you guys are clamoring for change or making him accountable to do anything meaningful...

interesting ... it is a powerful tool (hurting pockerts os always powerful).. but its sanctity needs to be preserved.. if we start canceling people for dating (like kpop etc).. its just .. :(

Society's evolve. Now, you have people reporting rap*... but do you know at one point that didn't happen. Victims couldn't come out because societies blamed victim. Point is there are a lot of perspectives out there. Ask a child who has been brain washed into becoming a jehadi. You really have to be sure that what you are fighting for is actually what you are fighting for. What is the objective here? Remove him from public eye because that would make you feel vindicated? Or, is the objective to make sure that more and more youngsters know that xyz is a wrong perspective... what retribution are you asking for and to satisfy which objective?

This makes sense ONLY if there is indeed a post from last year, or his 27th age, or his 26th age... but my understanding is that they didn't find anything on him until they went back 8 years.. that should be a cue that atleast on public platform he was not propagating wrong stuff

Disagree. both statements have very different connotations. if what i say is what he said, that in no way means that he is saying women deserve to be rap*... that is a stretch.. what it is is that women should also be cognizant of what they are wearing (it is nuanced.. but it definitely is not in league with the absolute "women or scantily dressed women deserve to get rap" .. keyword being deserve

That is why it is important to post verbatim and not bias it with our judgements. let people read original and form their own opinion

Daemi content and series is diff. Pond does the scriptwriting and legally daemi are not involved from scriptwriting (that's why BOC keeps warning them to not talk on behalf of the series).. and Daemi are saying about VegasPete and marriage as focus only because that couple exploded and all these gay rights focus in thailand

Explain me something.. how will you decide he is a changed man? You did not find him tweeting or saying anything in these 8 years which was offensive. Women who work with him came out saying he has always been respectful. So, did colleagues.

So , explain your mighty to me??? Because you didn't find anything derogatory in these 8 years that did not show you maturity, development, change?

But, just now, that you are wiser he tweeted something 8 years back, he needs to prove last 8 years did not exist...and prove you what and how?

I fail to see the logic to be honest. The fact that you guys could not find anything else from his 21 yr old, 22 yr old, 23 yr old, 24 yr old, 25 yr old, 26 yr old, 27 yr old, 28 yr old.. should really be a reflection on you

He didn't say that.. He said women scantily clad/nakd asking for death penalty for rap does not go along .. this is my understanding.. did he say women deserve to be rapd?

actually i think season 2 will be porsche heavy.. there isnt much left to vegas pete except some family life here and there.. their screentime primarily will be because vegas needs to get back his family status and biblebuild are popular now

HOW DID YOU KNOW :D .. the poster is the funeral scene for today

:) you know what you are doing.. and all i can say is either decide what is your priority message in your post, or accept when you are trying to attack .. period..

ultimately it is your post, your choice .. then expect supportive and non supportive replies too

You really didn't have to post snide comments on other fandom if your true objective was to really talk about and appreciate Mile Apo... don't preach other on what they post when you can't keep your own behavior in check