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Zo's mother is sweet. she just the type of mother/woman that shows her love with actions & doesn't, through hugs & kisses. that just shows the type of life she has lead, let alone her upbringing. **************************************************************Zo is just overly sensitive & a pushover that isn't capable of voicing his inner wants & needs - that's why i think Nita didn't just deserve to win over him, she should've been appointed instead of Zo as the new head of the debate club. IMO ******************also for people that don't care Joke's parents r very caring... the rest was so much fluff that i just ignored the majority of it - cause i am getting tired of Zo's neediness
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i don't think Zo's mother is putting too much pressure on him. Zo is a pushover & very indecisive. he lets people push & strong arm him into things & anyone saying his mother is domineering, needs to say the same about Joke, cause i don't see a difference. ****************************************************************************************************************************if anything the mother is doing it cause she wants her son to succeed & do better then she did in her life (for sure not fall short of her own achievement's). this not a new concept in parenting & for sure common when we talking Asian style parenting. yeah as a child, it is constant pressure - but this normal in Asian countries. ******************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************also found it ironic the 1st topic Zo's mother chose & the reason he couldn't stand behind the side he chose, is cause he knew he would be speaking from the heart & he is incapable of standing-up for himself & being truthful to his mother, even if to her he would just be debating. this shows more Zo's hang-up's & inability to deal with confrontation, then his mothers short comings IMO ************************************************************************************************************************* ****************************************************************************************************************************************of course Joke shows up, even after Zo told him not to - i.e he needs space - but does that matter?!?? not to Joke, cause he cares sooo much plz...Joke is Zo's mother. she just puts pressure on him to succeed in his studies, while Joke does it to get his way. Zo needs to grow a backbone where both r concerned. otherwise for the rest of his life he is gonna get railroaded into sh*t...
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wish i was this accurate when playing the lottery - of course Pat was helping Joke. it was obvious to the eye - the fact that Zo didn't wonder for a sec, that hey Joke never dated Nita so why was he ready to give me tips about dating her?!? something's very suspect here... already shows he not the sharpest tool in the box. so i guess Pat sending a message demanding "compensation" was needed to clue Zo in to how he was manipulated all along. ***************************************************& he a way bigger person then me - or just a bigger pushover, u chose. cause i wouldn't me rushing to aid Pat after he fell & i would cut all contact with him. i wouldn't be cutting Joke any slack either - but then no BL. so i knew that no matter how hard Zo made Pat & Joke's lives, he would cave by the end of the ep - so nothing shocking there. *******************************************************************************************************************************************************************************Kot is the MVP of this BL IMO, he the man & he for sure a better friend then Pat. ************************************************* ****************************************************************************************************************************************the Pok & Jeng blow-up was a long time coming, i guess seeing Zo's debt made it clear to Pok that he needs to stop just going with the flow & letting Jeng unintentionally walk all over him.
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as if u need to be a genius to figure out the "strange" calls r coming from Nita's stalker, who of course (after Zo's foreshadowing) ends up being Zo's new "friend". also had a feeling he wasn't even registered in the class & that's why the 2nd time, he came at the end of the class. but glad for Nita's sake he was dealt with this time. was wondering the last time Joke came to Nita's rescue, why it just ended in the lie that they were dating & they didn't report it. ***************************************************************************************************************************************************************************regarding Jeng & Pok - i didn't get why Jeng felt like he needed to lie - she wasn't hitting on him & she wasn't an ex or a women/girl he was flirting with on the side - so why the lie?!? it was absurd. but i felt sorry for Pok cause he is so insecure in his relationship he doesn't want to rock the boat & he was ready to accept the lie & gloss over his own feelings so nothing would rock the boat. last time i just pointed out how he was evading conversations about the issues that were bothering him. but now i get that it's cause he is scared that Jeng will leave him - my heart goes out to him. cause am sure he feels like hw isn't worthy of Jeng & so is happy to make do with the scraps he tosses his way.. this really sad.
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until now i didn't really focus on Jeng & Pok, but have to say Pok not telling Jeng what is bothering him, evading the problem wont make it go away - it will just snowball until he blows up. so he should've talked to Jeng (when he asked) cause waiting for the storm is a bad idea, as then u won't be able to think rationally & talk it out. u will lose it & ur anger will be incontrollable & then what? ********************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************also was wrong & Zo is either gay or bi - & his issue wasn't coming to terms will starting a relationship with a man, but a past trauma, which i am glad got solved in this ep. not that i think Joke is a good potential partner. but he was less pushy here & on a whole it was a more mellow ep ********************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************** side note: Zo or rather Dunk wiping his mouth after the kiss & that look - like how wet was that kiss, that it grossed him out lol?!?
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like i always suspected Pat knows that Joke has a crush on Zo & that is why he kept pushing Zo at Joke. which if he is a mutual friend it's whatever - but if he is Zo's good friend, he should've stayed out of it. now he is still on Joke's side. the fact Joke intentions aren't bad is neither here nor there - loyalty counts & Pat isn't loyal to Zo. cause Kot's reaction was the logical one. Pat's not at all.*****************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************i don't like Joke, he is always gaslighting Zo, he keeps pushing & chipping away at him, brainwashing him into thinking it was all his idea & that he didn't really want Nita - like plz. but when he sees that Zo isn't broken/hasn't folded, he backs away & says "...not rushing u...take all the time u need..." lies - bold faced lies! ********************************************************************that is the one thing he has been doing from the start(!), sometimes he is intense, other's he is lowkey - but always there is a constant pressure for Zo to cave & give in. ****************************************************************************************** ****************************************************************************************************************************************people in the comment section saying "joke doesn't force Zo" yeah maybe not physically, but the pressure is constant, mentally forcing him into a corner every time. he keeps saying "take ur time" & then in the other breath he is asking him about his feelings, if he is ready to be together etc... personally if it was me in Zo's place, i would've legged it a long time ago - cause i hate being cornered. so either give me the time & space i need to come to my own conclusions. or cut things off & i don't have to break my head about u. personally that's a win win for me, cause being in a relationship with an aggressive person is a headache in the long run. & Joke is Very domineering - he the type that will make u break off contact with anyone he deems a threat to his relationship with u - isolating u. that's just scary IMO *********************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************Joke's "..we've come too far for me to let u get away this time.." wouldn't just make me laugh, i would be heading for the door not the bathroom. but hey everything toxic passes for a romance otherwise it aint a Thai BL - the fact people eating this up is mindboggling cause am 90% sure more then half wouldn't put up with this sh*t if they were in Zo's place. oh well
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Joke deserved what he got - Zo needs time. he has been asking for space to himself, from before the trip. Joke is desperate & wont leave his side even for a sec. he might not have forced Zo to kiss him, but his gentle manipulation made Zo open up to him, so he went from crushing on a girl for ages to suddenly develop feelings for a man. now again instead of giving him space to come to terms with his own feelings, he keeps pushing him *****************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************Joke telling Zo "i'm not trying to push u..." is the biggest joke i have heard so far. is that joker serious?!? he has been manipulating & pushing Zo from the sec he found out Zo got a crush on Nita. he has weaseled his way into Zo's life & he wont quit until Zo is his. everyone else is elated at this type of obsessive behavior. me - not so much cause warning bells r going off. but this kinda typical so what's new - toxicity is the main dish
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IMO Joke is very manipulative & too pushy - he has an agenda & everything he does seems tainted cause of that... Zo needs time to himself, to think things through... idk how i feel about Joke lowkey brainwashing him into thinking he's only one who gets him & likes everything about him... implying that he (=Joke) is unique & others won feel the same. that Joke accepts Zo as is, while to be with others, he will have to change himself. ******************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************by the end Joke got what he was after, am i jumping from joy - not really, as he had the audacity to tell Zo "...u have to own up to ur feelings..." interesting way of putting things - owning up to... is also coming clean - which he needs to do... *************************************************************************************************************************************************************side note: i have watched Dunk in The Heart Killers & his acting here is so weird, the weird faces he keeps making & he got these weird ticks - like why?!??
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took me ages to finish this ep.... Aish - 1st off Zo asked Joke for tips on getting Nita, not on dating - considering he dated her he should know her well. so basically Zo was asking for inside info about Nita, not a course on dating - but that is what he got. even he seemed to forget what he had asked Joke for. but all this culminated in Joke getting what he wanted & that was worming his way into Zo's life. *******************************************************************************************************the fact Zo has started to "notice" Joke, while he suddenly is losing interest in Nita i really don't get - cause, just cause someone new pops up in ur life doesn't mean ur blind to anyone else, let alone someone u have been crushing on for, for over a yr. *******also didn't get his choice of story, when reading to Nita - what was she supposed to do - say that she loved the story & found it romantic?!? when it was about a woman in love that was tossed aside, while her lover went after someone new???? he should've reread the story he read to Joke - *****************************************************************************************don't get the writing here. but anything & everything to get the mains together i guess - like the trip Zo had booked (for 3 people mind u) suddenly he is going alone??? oh well -
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maybe cause i aint the type to forgive & forget i find Zo's 180 baffling, but i guess if Zo was more like me there wouldn't be a BL lol. but dude needs to stop tripping over his own two feet. i got two left feet & yet i haven't tripped over so much in that short amount of time, let alone landed on someone else - never. **************************************************************************btw i hope that Nita would try to rekindle sh*t with Joke or some such - where she is made out to be the "bad-guy" just to cause trouble between the mains. kinda tired of the misogynistic plotline.
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every BL i am watching lately, even if i like one character they end up doing sh*t that bothers me. here i like Zo. he is cute, insecure but cute all the same & love how feisty he is, in spite of being insecure & a bit of an introvert. but his friends or rather Pat is annoying the frack out of me. he keeps pushing Zo at Joke, when it is very clear that Zo isn't uncomfortable at the idea & doesn't seem to like Joke. but he keeps at it. this a good friend?!? at least Kot is a good friend, who makes sense when he opens his mouth & for sure when he speaks u, get that he is thinking about his friend & not just spewing sh*t just to further the plot/romance. Pat is a BAD friend! *******************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************idk how i feel about Joke, he is like the 'kid in the play ground pulling the hair of the girl he likes' & yet i didn't like how aggressive he was being with Zo, especially when a blind drunk Zo was coherent enough to know, who he was & wanted Joke to leave him alone. why insist on holding onto him?!? sorry (not sorry) Joke deserved to get punched. ***************************but after that logic left the room, get Zo feeling bad for punching Joke & even wanting to apologize but when Joke kept acting like a stubborn ass - why would Zo keep following him around?! he didn't like him from the get go, so why does it matter if he is forgiven or not?!? if it was me, after apologizing 2 / 3 times i would say 'i get u don't want to forgive me. i was drunk & overly emotional, sorry - bye'. end off! but the writer's need Zo to turn stupid just to create a reason for Zo to stick to Joke? this lazy writing, just makes me wanna drop this... not continue watching - cause Joke is gaslighting & manipulating someone who is this childlike(?) he this innocent, that he can't see the con from a mile away?!? ugh -
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i don't like Ana, he lets everyone walk all over him, that's a stupid personality trait, but it's his life. BUT he is trying to make Fuse into him, always telling him to stop & just take sh*t that is being dealt to him. really?!? & people rooting for this ship to sail?!? i want this ship to sink. Fuse deserves better then someone that can't stand-up for themselves & for sure wont stand-up for the person they love. like when Top asked Ana in distain "...this the guy ur dating..." as if Fuse is dirt(!) & the only answer he got was a nod of the head - what?!??? i aint even gonna bother wasting my time watching this until the ep of the ep let alone the series.
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know this a spinoff from Love Mechanics & the En of Love: TOSSARA series but i don't recall this pair. they cute & i love how airheaded & pure Fuse is. but wont say this stellar writing or acting. it's fine (cause this just 6 eps). *******************************like the pairing & both the leads - they cute. idk what Ana's past is like but i didn't think him just accepting the dude talking sh*t about him at the end & stopping Fuse was the right move. & no don't think Fuse should've fought him. but needed Ana to stand-up for himself. just walking around allowing people to walk all over u cause u did sh*t in the past - doesn't give anyone the right to call u out on that sh*t.
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i really like Peem - Peem as a friend & senior - love. but Peem in-love nope, can't stand him, he is stupid & backboneless. Phum keeps pushing him away, insulting & being mean without any reason - what does Peem do, run after him, trying to placate & console him - why?!???? know love can make u blind to ur partners faults. but to this degree?!? even after Phum throwing the slave sh*t in his face, he doesn't blow-up?? this toxic & not romantic or sweet. ***************************************************** i said (from the sec Kluen came onto the scene) that he was trouble, ironic that the main problem here is Phum. Kluen is normal in comparison. Phum is being a spoilt brat & an utter ass. & the fact Peem doesn't want to break the slave contract is beyond annoying & absurd to me. ************************************************************************************************************i rejoiced when Q over heard them, i wanted him to punch Phum & talk someone sense into Peem - sadly he just offered a shoulder & a question that was supposed to make Peem think & to come to his own conclusions. very mature approach & yet not satisfying, cause someone needs to tell Peem that starting off a relationship on lies - that foundation is f*cked-up & not solid. they should've broken off that contract ages ago & then started as friends - but this wouldn't be a Thai BL if there was no toxic sh*t to dress as a perfect romance. ugh! *******************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************thank f*ck for Q, Toey, Pun, Chain, Mick & Tan - they made this fun & bearable at times. 6 more ep's to go & idk how i am gonna survive Peem turning into a door mate & a verbal punching bag, cause Phum incapable of acting like an adult & facing his insecurities. & if anyone wasn't clued in by all i have written - no i didn't watch the end where Peem & Phum make out - didn't want to vomit in my mouth!
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Q might end up murdering Chain lol... Pun, Toey & Chain need to stop messing with Q - they need to give him time & space to get to a place, where he is ready to confess. *****************************************************************************************& i know i will be the odd one out, but i didn't like Peem trying to comfort Phum after Phum told him "...don't talk to me..." sorry, but after that i would turn mute(!), i for sure wouldn't care if he can't sleep or why.... that would be his problem. Phum's acting like a spoilt child. *********************************************************************************************************************Kluen's known Peem for a sec but already knows what he wants & is doing everything to pursue that goal/Peem. he isn't being aggressive, but he has made it clear to everyone that he is interested in Peem. & what does cry baby do? get angry at Peem??!?he's not ready to confess to Peem - fine. he had a chance to put Kluen in his place, when they were all alone - when he told Phum he liked Peem. Phum could've said he does too. but nope, he turned mute. so no i didn't like Peem trying to placate him, i know he was doing it cause he realized his feelings, but just cause ur in-love with someone, doesn't mean u ignore the fact they treating ur unfairly/badly!!! **************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************regrading Khaofang, now i know why i don't like him. he is the same age as the guys (besides Toey & Matt) yet he acts like he's the only adult in that group. like he is indulging a bunch of immature children. & doing that with Tan someone he supposedly cares for makes me even more put-off by him & his condensing attitude. **********************************************************also given how he & Tan 1st met, let alone from the start he has countless times now offered to beat guys up, & he the serious one? yeah sorry - love Tan but he deserves better.
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