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It wasn't just that Jiwoo "frustrated" me. I don't mind frustrating, strange, weird, hideous characters if the plot/script explains their actions and that's where the second season fell short for me. He just kept treating the other guy like shit, over and over and over again, until all of a sudden, at the end, it was all suddenly "OK!"

I understood that apparently, he was severely depressed, correct? But he was never treated for it as far as I recall, and yet at the end the other guy took him back as though it wouldn't all just happen over and over again, which IRL it would. I've fought depression all my life and it doesn't just go away.

Oh well, I'm not trying to change your mind. I'm glad you liked it.

If he didn't "care about himself," he would have fallen apart when Qian ordered him out of the house, Instead, he used the money Qian had saved for him to get his education and begin to succeed in America. People with no self respect, who don't care about themselves, don't act like that.

I tried to the no-subs thing once because an MDL friend watches lots of shows we can't find sub for, "raw," so I thought I'd try. It drove me crazy. All I could think was "what the hell are they SAYING?!!!!," especially in big, emotional scenes. I'm not cut out for watching raw. :)

Interesting...I am not a fan of "To My Star," and especially not of the second season, which is, in my opinion only, one of the worst K-BLs I've ever seen. Production and acting was good, but those two guys made me crazy, always doing or not doing things for what seemed to be no reason other than that it was in the script. Are you a fan of the second season as well as the first?

I don't pay attention to almost anything Chinese. They can take their gay-ban and shove it up their Puritanical asses. That's another thing that has always seemed odd to me: That Communist countries have generally been extremely prudish and backward regarding sex of any kind, but especially gay sex. Communism rejects religion, which is usually the source of such prudery, so I don't get where it comes from.

I HAVE been watching "Unknown" and completely agree about its quality. Watched episode 7 today and it may have been the best yet. Well-written, well-acted, well-directed...I have no complaints. But with two and a half hours to go, I'm nervous. :D

I live for angst, drama, torrid, upsetting tragedy and all that, but it feels like these two have already been through the ringer. When Qian sent the text today, "Come back if you miss home," I cried. :)

So the ghost of Champ answered the phone at home...TWICE? Once to take a message from Ton's mom, and another time just after that to receive news of his own death? I mean, he physically picked up the phone with his hand. Also, why is Ton looking all spooky and dead upstairs when Champ goes to the bedroom, as if he IS dead, when it's Champ who is dead?

After reading other comments, I think it's just poorly written and doesn't really make sense.

Too bad, because there was nice chemistry between the leads, and a nice, spookiness going on in the second half, even if the music crossed the line into slasher/stabbing shrieks a couple times.

"a polite knock on a door..." Love it.

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Me too. I just finished watching the "BL Cut" of this show, which is about 90 minutes, for at least the sixth time. It focuses almost entirely on Won Suk and Ho Dol. It's only about 90 minutes long, but overflowing with feels.

I was already a big fan of little JYS from a couple of short films and other things I'd seen him in, but he is one hundred percent perfection in this part. That adorable, goofy face and the sweetness he radiates naturally always make me smile like a crazy person. So, when he gets mistreated in LWF I was quite upset, which made Won Suk my hero as well as Ho Dol's.

I wasn't aware of Cha In Ha until this show, and when I checked his bio, with great anticipation of seeing more work he'd done, and saw how things went for him, I think my jaw hit the floor. This has happened with so many SK entertainers I admire that I couldn't wrap my head around it for a while. The first couple of watches of the LWF BL cut after learning of his passing were painful af. I kept dissolving into tears. When will Korea's blood thirsty fan/celeb/media/netizen culture stop killing its finest?

In case you are not aware of where to find the BL cut, I'll put it behind the spoiler tag below.

I have found that with most movies or dramas, especially ones of high quality, I haven't really "seen" them at all until I've watched a second or third time. There is simply no way I can absorb every detail, hint, and indication the first time around. So as with many other favorite shows, I look forward to my second and third watches, probably beginning a couple weeks after the show finishes airing.

Really, it's no different than looking at a painting or sculpture, or reading a novel; the more I look or read, the more I will see and feel and perceive.

YES!!! I'm glad someone else caught that. In my own comment above I mentioned how remarkable a feat of characterization it is for an actor to step out of a car and in one second onscreen, establish that the character has grown, changed, and strengthened to a powerful degree. He simply took over, and all the drunks did as he told them. lol I loved that.

China is Communist in name only. It is entirely capitalistic and unquestionably a dictatorship. It is home to some of the wealthiest Oligarchs on the planet.

I disagree entirely about Yuan not having "self-respect" in regard to taking care of Qian. He has simply been open and honest about who he loves and cares about. Caring for someone, and expressing that feeling in actions, does not automatically carry a sense of debasement to the caregiver. Qian didn't abuse or insult Yuan; Yuan wasn't being a codependent weakling, but Qianwas oblivious to the degree to which he was reliant on Yuan.

Yuan's care-giving was beautifully selfless in that while, in his heart, of course he WANTED something in return, he did not make of it a DEMAND, or requirement for his affection and care, which was freely, and joyfully given.

How in the world is any of that indicative of a lack of self-respect?

As strong as Qian has been as a provider and stable base for Yuan and Lili, it is Yuan who is the emotionally/psychologically stronger one, and always has been. While Qian wrestled with his denial and internalized homophobia, Yuan had simply accepted himself as he grew up, for who he is. In this homophobic world, that takes guts. Although Taiwan is probably the most gay-friendly Asian country.

ooooooooooooohhhh...Taiwan also has gay marriage! Wedding bells for Y & Q by episode 12?!

Episode 7: Another WOW. One of the best BLs from any country in the last two years.

Kurt Huang brings a remarkable, yet subtle, gentleness to the character of Yuan in everything he does. And when he got out of the taxi, it was apparent on first sight that he had changed and grown. An actor who can convey such a thing in a split-second of body language on screen is talented indeed. His struggle, earlier in the episode on the phone with Qian, to prevent himself from saying all that so badly wanted out, brought me to tears. Then...the text from Qian...I broke.

Sorry, not buying Lili as a world-famous model...not one bit. She's adorable, sweet and funny, but she is not global superstar model material. But whatever...

Chris Chiu is excellent as Qian, a suppressed but solid rock at the center of the story. I can't wait to see what episode 8 brings us. There is a LOT of time left for major shit to go down either way. I'd be more worried about Qian's "ailment," but San Pang apparently knows all about it and isn't planning funerals, so maybe it's something chronic but not fatal. However, as I said, there is a LOT of time left.

Bravo to the makers of Unknown! Thank you for a lovely BL to look forward to every week, though I'd be happier if you'd dumped all the eps at once.

I agree with you that celebs should be random people, but there will always be somewhat of an interest in entertainers' lives, almost anywhere we live. It's human nature. A thousand years ago, Roman gladiators were celebrities. Well-known artists of the Renaissance were celebrities.

But as you say, it's entirely a matter of toxicity and proportion. Koreans, for many reasons, and this is a GENERAL statement, regard their celebs with an insanely disproportional level of possessiveness and judgment, a toxic af combination. Add social media and you have suicides right and left.

lol To me, it's just that there is so much BL crap being put out, especially from Thailand but more and more from JP and Korea, that there's not much to like. However, just lately, there's been a string of good-to-great BLs out of JP and Taiwan, so that's nice to see.

Check out my Top 30 Lists on my profile page. I promise you, there have been a LOT of BLs I like, but most of them were made during or before 2022.

Here's my simple take: "Congratulating" a celeb "couple" because they are supposedly dating legitimizes the idea, which is fucked up, that such a relationship is any of the public's business in the first place. If the public is justified in congratulating such an alleged couple, then they're justified later in condemning one of them later for any alleged behavior the public doesn't like. Or they're justified in making it their business and dragging one if there are accusations of "cheating," or any other number of ways of sticking the public's nose where it doesn't belong.

"Congratulations!" leads to "so-and-so cheated on so-and-so and flirted with a waitress at a club while drunk, so they must be canceled," etc.

It shouldn't be hard to understand that, especially in Korea, where such online and press abuse has led to numerous celebrity suicides, this commonly accepted habit of intruding into entertainers' private lives has got to stop.

Finally, yes, these actors' agencies, not the actors themselves "confirmed" the relationship, which means the whole thing smells fishy . Why not a comment from the actors themselves? Or better yet, NO comment?

Asians don't get it, because they've been brainwashed by it always being the case, but it is nothing short of bizarre for an agency or production company to be putting out press releases about their people's private lives. The only press release they should be putting out is "The private lives of these actors are nobody's business but theirs. Please refrain from harassing them and stfu." This "please smile on their relationship as they continue to grow"-type shit is a big part of the problem.

Another fucked-up Korean entertainment convention is that who the performer's agency is seems more important that who the performer is. I'm hoping eventually, Korea can get to the American model, where the agency works for the actor/performer, not the other way around.

This is a silly, goofy, low-budget...thing with a heart of gold and I love it. :D

Just finished my fourth watch, at least. Makes me laugh and cry every time. I just think of it as a really high-budget community theatre production and I'm good.

For what it is, which is nothing more than it's trying to be: 8.5/10

Episode 4: WOWZA. Did Senpai just bottom?

Senpai's puppy-dog eyes! TWICE.

More shower scenes, please. :)

Both leads are very good actors. I like that each is handsome, and not in a pretty-boy way. The direction is excellent, as well.
Don't understand why we got dead fish kisses on the bridge, sandwiched between very sensual love scenes...for a moment I feared I had been transported inside an old Thai BL.
I dig the way Akihiro dresses. Sort of "Hip Preppy." Traditional American/English old-school, with a touch of sass.

The young actors playing the MCs in high school are doing a great job too.

This is a quality show. I'm enjoying it immensely.