Akira, let's just face it, is a cowardly dick. And the near-miss, almost-kisses were old about 25 times ago. Kusakawa Takuya's remarkable beauty is the ONLY reason to watch this thing, but his character is the pits.
Out at 42:36. This movie is a joke. Yoon Kye Sang as Poong San is very good, and very hot.
The woman he rescued from NK is annoying as f**k. She says she's some kind of former NK commando trainee and then spends the entire time he is rescuing her squealing and squeaking and acting like a seven-year-old girl having a tantrum. They're sneaking across perhaps the most dangerous border in the world and she's yelling out loud at him and acting like some damsel in distress, demanding she be treated like a "lady." And yet somehow no guards from NK or SK hear her carrying on like a banshee from hell. omg...so f**king stupid.
There is NO way this hot, studly man of action would fall in love with her over the course of the three hours she was nothing but a pain in the ass. And then for all his trouble, she SLAPS him!
Kim Ki Duk is BEYOND overrated as a writer AND a director. And the director of this thing should have been banned from the industry after this shit-show.
WHY does Poong San never speak? No indication of that, but I'm certainly not going to watch the remaining 75 minutes to find out.
lol Sorry, had to laugh when I saw your comment. To me, "180 Degrees..." is one of the most pretentious and tedious…
Oh no...it was "180 Degrees...," this I know for sure because I was excited by the first ep and a half, then it started going to shit and by #4 I was out. As for a 1/10, yeah, I figure anything so bad that I run screaming away from it is a 1/10 to me. I already explained why I thought it was a joke so I won't bore you with a repeat.
This series is fantastic so far. Haven't seen such a great atmosphere and cinematography since "180 degrees longitude...".…
lol Sorry, had to laugh when I saw your comment. To me, "180 Degrees..." is one of the most pretentious and tedious BL series to ever come out of Thailand. Which is saying a lot, because MANY pretentious and tedious BLs have come out of Thailand, especially of late. Endless scenes of those two dudes talking and talking and then talking some more...something would almost happen but not quite, and then there was more talking and talking and talking...etc. The writer/director was in love with his own script and no one had the balls to tell him he was boring the shit out of people.
It was filmed in black and white to make sure to let us know it was a "serious" drama. lol
I remember at first, I thought it was going to be good, but about three eps in it began to stall...just awful. Then I dropped it and gave it a 1/10. Glad you're enjoying it though.
No romantic couple on Earth kisses by putting their lips in contact and then remaining entirely motionless for…
lol Funny...I don't smell anything here. Must be because my sinus cavities have rotted already too. Oh, gotta go...there's a big shred of rotted flesh I need to pull off my ass. Meanwhile, you get out there today and enjoy being in your gay man prime, OK?
Do most gay men in their prime spend their precious, fabulous gay time on the Internet railing away at some ancient gay geezer about bad gay kisses in BL series? Just wondering with my rotting, old brain...
No romantic couple on Earth kisses by putting their lips in contact and then remaining entirely motionless for…
I know, your reply was so deep in fact, that it entirely changed my world view. I now understand that even a "literal" GAY MAN can lack any semblance of wit or creativity. I had thought that even the least of us were somewhat groovy. I was wrong.
You should stop trying to insult me. You're not good at it. "Karen?" lol How original.
No romantic couple on Earth kisses by putting their lips in contact and then remaining entirely motionless for…
First of all, you've got me confused with another commenter who likes actual, real kisses between male romantic partners. He's the one who used the term "queer washing" but I completely agree with him on that.
"...and calling it homophobia just because they did not kiss the way you wanted them to?" No, they did not kiss the way ANYBODY who is any good at kissing goes about it.
Thus, it's sensible to conclude that you, a "literal GAY MAN (improper use of the word 'literal')" are a really bad kisser.
I said NOTHING about opening mouths, though that would help. I complained they did not even freaking MOVE once their lips connected. They sat there like statues; I thought the video was buffering, it was laughable.
You seem the type that is thankful for any gay crumbs that fall your way from the big straight, grownups' table. That's fine for you. More power to you. I don't like crumbs.
Finally, I never said it was NOT "fine for someone else to like the way they did it." Nice attempt at misdirection though. This type of statement is the usual, desperate plea of commenters here who haven't a leg to stand on regarding their position. "It's OK for me to say dog poop tastes good! I don't have to not like it just because you don't...quit saying I have to not like it..." waaaaaah...
Please refrain from putting words in my fingers. Thank you.
No it's not. He should not have been cast. Those wooden kisses pull the viewer out of every scene they're in. Suddenly we're not watching a character kiss their partner, we're watching an "idol" Wanna-be refusing to do his job.
Have y'all seen how other idols who did KBL this year did not even have kissing scenes? If you ask me, J-Min and…
No romantic couple on Earth kisses by putting their lips in contact and then remaining entirely motionless for sixty seconds, and you know it. The question is why are you making excuses for homophobic casting and scripting?
This was a very grown up BL and I enjoyed it very much. It was told in a slice of life style, free of cowbells…
Please don't apologize for your spot-on comments above about the ridiculous notion of casting homophobic "idols" from homophobic production companies in BLs, which are, ,after all, freaking GAY. lol The stiff, motionless kisses from the "main" couple were jarring and completely stupid and immature.
You are also spot-on about the Republican party trying to drag us all back to the 1950s and further in American cultural attitudes toward gay people and other minorities. I am gay. I alternate between anger and sadness that having lived all these years, this shit is still an issue when I had fantasized, in my 20s, that by now we would have been beyond all that craziness. But the lesson is hatred and craziness will always be with us so we have to push back as a matter of course, and that will never NOT be the case.
Again, thanks for your comment. There are a LOT of people here who make excuses for gay-negative casting of lame "idols" in BL.
It's weird that every performer in every K-Pop group is called an "idol." This kid's group doesn't make any list…
OK, first of all, I don't "hate" anyone or anything related to this topic. Quit putting words in my fingers.
I don't care what his "reasons" were, he should not have been cast in the role. That couple's dead-fish kisses looked particularly stupid compared to the other couples' full commitment to those scenes.
It is beyond silly that you refer to "sex scenes" in BLs as "smut." Do you even know the definition of that word? It includes the words "obscene" and "lascivious." Please point out to me any BL ever that contained "obscene" material. I'll let you look up that definition on your own. Heavy making out in a scene that advances to shirts coming off and then fades to black is not "obscene." It is a depiction of actual, real life, which includes sex.
We got a split-second butt shot in KinnPorsche. Butts are not obscene, especially when you miss them if you blink.
Do you refer to such scenes in straight dramas as "smut?"
And no, neither I nor any other BL watcher has to be patient with the homophobic treatment of gay physical expressions of love in K-BL or anything else. You may have been brainwashed into accepting what you are given, but a lot of us haven't.
What is in it for you as an audience member to take into account the personal, homophobic reasoning of a participating actor? He should not have been offered the role and when he was, he should have honestly said "no homo" and walked away. Instead we get this weird thing where an actor plays gay but draws lines that distract from the plot and the characterizations. Would his CHARACTER do dead-fish kisses? No, he would not. So in those moments we're pulled out of the story and we're watching an "idol" Wanna-be refusing to do his job.
You're OK with that. I'm not. For what it's worth, there are a LOT of MDL members who feel just as I do. I get DMs from them all the time. They don't leave comments about this topic because they've been beaten into submission every time they do with accusations of wanting "smut!," "porn!," "graphic sex!" They get called "perverts" and are told to go watch online porn if that's what they want.
And as you just did above, it is implied they are overly emotional and told to take their "hate" elsewhere. I don't care what people like you reply to me so I say what I want.
Just know that your "patience" and rationalization of homophobic portrayals of gay characters and relationships is not helping. It's enabling.
The girl is so incredibly obvious from the very first time we see her, and the teacher so incredibly gullible that it's not possible to take this even a little bit seriously. So many dumb, blatantly, red-flag inappropriate BS moments in just a third of an hour. I'm out.
The actress is playing her character as an obnoxious stereotype we've all seen in films like this too many times. I dropped those too.
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Akira, let's just face it, is a cowardly dick. And the near-miss, almost-kisses were old about 25 times ago. Kusakawa Takuya's remarkable beauty is the ONLY reason to watch this thing, but his character is the pits.
The woman he rescued from NK is annoying as f**k. She says she's some kind of former NK commando trainee and then spends the entire time he is rescuing her squealing and squeaking and acting like a seven-year-old girl having a tantrum. They're sneaking across perhaps the most dangerous border in the world and she's yelling out loud at him and acting like some damsel in distress, demanding she be treated like a "lady." And yet somehow no guards from NK or SK hear her carrying on like a banshee from hell. omg...so f**king stupid.
There is NO way this hot, studly man of action would fall in love with her over the course of the three hours she was nothing but a pain in the ass. And then for all his trouble, she SLAPS him!
Kim Ki Duk is BEYOND overrated as a writer AND a director. And the director of this thing should have been banned from the industry after this shit-show.
WHY does Poong San never speak? No indication of that, but I'm certainly not going to watch the remaining 75 minutes to find out.
Terrible.
Dropped.
1/10
It was filmed in black and white to make sure to let us know it was a "serious" drama. lol
I remember at first, I thought it was going to be good, but about three eps in it began to stall...just awful. Then I dropped it and gave it a 1/10. Glad you're enjoying it though.
Do most gay men in their prime spend their precious, fabulous gay time on the Internet railing away at some ancient gay geezer about bad gay kisses in BL series? Just wondering with my rotting, old brain...
"...plugging in a giant zucchini in your ass until you moan so loudly that even here in Asia we can hear it."
hmmm...perhaps I should report you to the mods.
You should stop trying to insult me. You're not good at it. "Karen?" lol How original.
"...and calling it homophobia just because they did not kiss the way you wanted them to?" No, they did not kiss the way ANYBODY who is any good at kissing goes about it.
Thus, it's sensible to conclude that you, a "literal GAY MAN (improper use of the word 'literal')" are a really bad kisser.
I said NOTHING about opening mouths, though that would help. I complained they did not even freaking MOVE once their lips connected. They sat there like statues; I thought the video was buffering, it was laughable.
You seem the type that is thankful for any gay crumbs that fall your way from the big straight, grownups' table. That's fine for you. More power to you. I don't like crumbs.
Finally, I never said it was NOT "fine for someone else to like the way they did it." Nice attempt at misdirection though. This type of statement is the usual, desperate plea of commenters here who haven't a leg to stand on regarding their position. "It's OK for me to say dog poop tastes good! I don't have to not like it just because you don't...quit saying I have to not like it..." waaaaaah...
Please refrain from putting words in my fingers. Thank you.
You are also spot-on about the Republican party trying to drag us all back to the 1950s and further in American cultural attitudes toward gay people and other minorities. I am gay. I alternate between anger and sadness that having lived all these years, this shit is still an issue when I had fantasized, in my 20s, that by now we would have been beyond all that craziness. But the lesson is hatred and craziness will always be with us so we have to push back as a matter of course, and that will never NOT be the case.
Again, thanks for your comment. There are a LOT of people here who make excuses for gay-negative casting of lame "idols" in BL.
I don't care what his "reasons" were, he should not have been cast in the role. That couple's dead-fish kisses looked particularly stupid compared to the other couples' full commitment to those scenes.
It is beyond silly that you refer to "sex scenes" in BLs as "smut." Do you even know the definition of that word? It includes the words "obscene" and "lascivious." Please point out to me any BL ever that contained "obscene" material. I'll let you look up that definition on your own.
Heavy making out in a scene that advances to shirts coming off and then fades to black is not "obscene." It is a depiction of actual, real life, which includes sex.
We got a split-second butt shot in KinnPorsche. Butts are not obscene, especially when you miss them if you blink.
Do you refer to such scenes in straight dramas as "smut?"
And no, neither I nor any other BL watcher has to be patient with the homophobic treatment of gay physical expressions of love in K-BL or anything else. You may have been brainwashed into accepting what you are given, but a lot of us haven't.
What is in it for you as an audience member to take into account the personal, homophobic reasoning of a participating actor? He should not have been offered the role and when he was, he should have honestly said "no homo" and walked away. Instead we get this weird thing where an actor plays gay but draws lines that distract from the plot and the characterizations. Would his CHARACTER do dead-fish kisses? No, he would not. So in those moments we're pulled out of the story and we're watching an "idol" Wanna-be refusing to do his job.
You're OK with that. I'm not. For what it's worth, there are a LOT of MDL members who feel just as I do. I get DMs from them all the time. They don't leave comments about this topic because they've been beaten into submission every time they do with accusations of wanting "smut!," "porn!," "graphic sex!" They get called "perverts" and are told to go watch online porn if that's what they want.
And as you just did above, it is implied they are overly emotional and told to take their "hate" elsewhere. I don't care what people like you reply to me so I say what I want.
Just know that your "patience" and rationalization of homophobic portrayals of gay characters and relationships is not helping. It's enabling.
The girl is so incredibly obvious from the very first time we see her, and the teacher so incredibly gullible that it's not possible to take this even a little bit seriously. So many dumb, blatantly, red-flag inappropriate BS moments in just a third of an hour. I'm out.
The actress is playing her character as an obnoxious stereotype we've all seen in films like this too many times. I dropped those too.
1/10