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I get that. I just think it would be a better strategy to play it cool for a while. Be polite and courteous, but back off on expressions of intimacy/love. Let Qian see what it's like to have Yuan around but not be the center of his attention. It's clear Qian wouldn't like that at all. :)

I got to that point almost two years ago and gave up on Thai BLs. The last one I found watchable was Moonlight Chicken. Thailand is making the classic business mistake of flooding the market with quick-shot products to make quick money. As a result, the quality of individual products goes way down as the quantity increases. In the end, they've saturated their target consumer with low-quality products, thus their value decreases.

Which brings you here to this page, where we're all freaking out at how well-made THIS product is. I "love love" this drama too.

Wow. This is the best BL I've seen in quite a while. I'm impressed with everything from acting and direction to cinematography and set design. Some of the scenes, especially at the river, are feature film-worthy.

I'm happy to see the overwhelmingly positive response and high ratings for this show here on MDL. I'm so used to pathetic Thai BLs, their comment sections (which I don't go to because I don't watch Thai shows anymore.) full of squealing fujoshis, rating abominations like "Bad Buddy" a 10/10 and calling it a "masterpiece." Lord help us.

Mild spoilers:

The Lili-San Pang reveal scene was hilarious. A meat cleaver, for god's sake! lol I love the way Qian calmly takes off his glasses, goes to the kitchen, and returns with a deadly weapon. hahaha Then the panic to remove all sharp objects from the house...lol

As Qian, Chris Chiu is great at projecting powerful emotions with very little face/body movement. And yet that body could kick some people's asses. He's like a mountain lake on a calm day: The surface is smooth as glass, but below the water is dark and currents flow.

I'm a bit surprised at how Yuan is behaving. I thought he'd be more stand-offish for a while.

My god, that preview.

Thanks, Find Me!

The suicide of popular and famous Korean actor Lee Sun Kyun has stirred up a bit of a storm there. The director of his film "Parasite" and many other well-known actors and producers held a press conference, demanding an investigation into who on the police force leaked information to the media. They also trashed Korean netizens, social media, and news media, demanding accountability for publishing the illegally leaked information.

Korean celeb/fan suicide culture is so ingrained there that it will take a long time to change anything. MDL publishing this article is an example of that. They think spreading unproven accusations made by an anonymous accuser is a legitimate thing to do. No ethics at all.

On edit: I'm hoping people like LSK's widow and celebrities themselves, start suing law enforcement and media outlets responsible for this shit.

It will never happen. Ignoring the problem is a huge part of Korean celeb/fan suicide culture and this site leans heavily Korean. I've tried to figure out who "owns"MDL and where it is based, with no luck. But Korean shows seem to get the bulk of attention here, don't you agree?

My sister likes it when I ________ her.

Done with you, psycho.

I had an experience very similar to this in college.
This superb little film captures the melancholy sadness overlaying the whole thing.
Excellent acting.

9.5/10

"Everyone should seek psychiatric help if thinking about harming their self."

Is this supposed to be news to me.? The problem in Korea is that there is STILL a huge stigma attached to seeking mental health treatment. If this actress did so, and a paparazzi snapped a pic of her going into a psychiatrist's office, then THAT would be the next scaling up of the "scandal." The media and public would go wild.

"Blackmailing people with suicide to escape from bad deed doesn't work in this day and age."

What the hell are you talking about? What Korean celeb that you know of has threatened suicide to mitigate an ongoing media frenzy? I'm going to name Korean celeb suicide victims off the top of my head...

Lee Sun Kyun
Moonbin
Kim Jonghyun
Cha In Ha
Park Yong Ha
Sully
Goo Hara
The rapper Iron
Choi Jin-Sil "The nation's actress"
Choi Jin-Sil's younger brother, less than a year later
Roh Moo Hyun Korean president

In NOT ONE of these cases did the deceased mention "suicide" to anyone, much less "threaten" suicide to gain sympathy. Goo Hara had two prior attempts, I believe, but in no case did she "threaten" that she was going to do what she did.

In every case above and, keep in mind I pulled these off the top of my head, NO ONE had any warning of what was to come. Korean celebrity suicide victims tend to be very efficient in performing the act: They make a decision, tell no one, and go about the business of killing themselves. On occasion, a note is found afterward.

So, again: What the hell are you talking about? Based on the perspective you seem to have on this topic, I'm beginning to think you're 14 years old.

Yeah, I'll get right on that, as soon as you start working on reining in your participation in the Korean celebrity "scandal" and suicide cult.

You forgot this part of my last reply: "So what? 20 years!"

Accuse me of whatever you want. At least it's clear I'm not rehashing lame BS from 20 years ago in an effort to...what? What is it you're trying to accomplish with all these replies?

Your behavior here is a classic of the Korean suicide culture: Using an accusation from an anonymous source as an excuse to dig up and disseminate all sorts of ancient history.

You don't get it: I am not interested in hunting around the Internet in an effort to find out everything I can about this woman, like you're doing. I don't do this regarding ANY celebrity. I pretty much stick to news about their profession and upcoming work. The reason I don't do this is that I DO NOT CARE. High school bullying or whatever, it was 20 years ago, she's 20 years older, hasn't killed anyone that I know of, and isn't likely to. Why are you spending your time investigating this so-called "scandal?" What's in that for you?

You keep claiming you're not someone who cares about actors as PEOPLE, but as performers regarding the quality and various aspects of their performances, right? And yet you're doing a deep dive into all this high school bullying silliness based on an unsubstantiated accusation from an anonymous source. WHY?

I think you are VERY interested in her private life, based on your statements and actions related to this thread. What you are doing perpetuates the cycle of psycho-Korean celeb/fan culture, whether you do it from Korea or the U.S. Good for you.

Why the hell did Kang let that female sniper, "2 seconds," walk away when he could have killed her. I don't buy that he was so shocked it was the girl by the creek that he froze. As a result of his choice, at least one main and one supporting character were killed. Also, he knew exactly who she was and how many SOK soldiers she had killed, and would kill in the future if he let her go. And then he let her go.

I have seen this movie twice and this still feels like a false note to me.

A great war movie that is thoroughly anti-war.
Gets a tad too preachy a few times, and that brought down my rating.
Acting performances are exceptional across the board.
There are several hard-to-swallow coincidences and character overlaps I don't buy.
Battle scenes are tremendous, and I appreciate the unflinching inclusion of plenty of body gore, as war is a meat grinder and not to be sugar-coated.
Lee Je Hoon turns in his usual outstanding performance and looks fine af with no clothes on.

8/10

I have a question regarding a pivotal plot point, which I will place behind a spoiler tag below. If anyone cares to check out the question and respond, I'd appreciate it.

It's easy to insult people like you who provide so much ammunition. Your attempt to draw an analogy here is beyond stupid.

Is my rudeness taking you to the breaking point?

Wow. You are blind as a bat.

"Don't hurt others" is an appropriate summation of everything I wrote above.

Oh dear, aren't you a snowflake.

I'm glad you're disturbed by my words regarding celebrity suicide in Korea. You SHOULD be disturbed. I WANT you to be disturbed. Celebrity suicides in Korea are disturbing!

It says a lot about you that in a comment thread about SUICIDE, people actually being hounded to their deaths, your biggest concern is that no one be disturbed by a commenter's tone.

Lord.

Pretty sure I already told you I don't care what you think of my manners.

I love theatre, movies, drama, music, sports and many other things. Thus, I become aware of which actors, singers, football players, whatever, appeal to me the most. I do not join fan clubs or stalk them online, but I do casually follow their careers.

I'm a fan of Korean movies, BLs, and a bit of music. As I've learned more and more about the Korean entertainment industry, I've become appalled at how entertainers are treated by the Korean press and public, and horrified by how many of them have died by suicide.

I do not apologize for being passionate about this gigantic problem in Korea. My passion is why I'm in this comment thread. I have zero concern about being respectful and polite to members who are feeding the Korean suicide machine and helping drive actors and other artists to their eaths. Such people deserve no respect.

Maybe start a manners and etiquette vlog, and give your advice there. I don't need it. I'm very polite and respectful to those who earn it by their words.

You know what you can do with your lecturing BS on comment section etiquette. I don't care what you think of my manners.

People who hold vile opinions deserve what they get in comment sections.

BTW, YOU are now part of the problem. "Remain neutral?" If you had any sense of compassion and decency you would assume the best of people rather than the worst.

"we don't know..." is part of how Korean suicide culture works. Once an accusation is made, it's 'out there" and people like you assume there is something to be "neutral" about. How about assuming crap like this is false until it's proven to be fact? Did that even occur to you?

An anonymous person is accusing her of bullying HIM 20 years ago in high school. He claims she "slapped me for an hour and a half." lol He won't reveal who he is, and he has refused to meet with her agency reps to provide details, as they asked. They have already confirmed she and he never knew each other.

So, basically, it's yet another absurdly hyped and impossible-to-verify Korean celeb "scandal" witch hunt, which will end with the actor's career in tatters and possibly, death by suicide. But apparently, Koreans have learned nothing from the dozens of Korean celeb suicides over the last 25 years, and this is really sad but likely true, they just don't care. The pseudo-scandals are just too juicy for them to live without, and what do a few more suicides matter anyway, seeing as how Korea has the highest rate by far, of any other developed country in the world; TWICE the rate of suicides in the U.S.

I love Korean movies and some dramas, but Korea's celeb/fan culture is way fucked up. The society is Puritanical in some ways, but K-Pop idols churn out hyper-sexualized performances. Korea has the toughest marijuana laws in the world, but getting shit-faced on booze with coworkers every other night is considered just part of doing business.

I'm worried about Yoo Ah In, who the Korean suicide machine has been grinding away at since early last year. He's a great actor and I fear he may check out like Lee Sun Kyun. Now it's gearing up to decimate the young lady at the center of this trash article.

BTW, if your FB feed is full of chatter about this non-story, I suggest you clean out your "friends" list and block some bloodthirsty morons.

Oh yes I have, sister. lol I love that you think stomping your foot and saying "you have NOT refuted my arguments in any way! Because I say so!" means that is automatically the case, which it's not.

Where are your details as to the ALLEGED incident that led to her transfer? What do we know about that? Maybe SHE was the one bullied. Who fucking cares? 20 years!

Oh you poor thing; attacked with ad hominems while attacking an actress over 20-year-old high school bullying accusations, made by an anonymous (of course) person, which are impossible to prove one way or the other. And if they're true, so what? 20 years!

You know, here in the U.S. (I now suspect you currently live in Korea and have soaked up the toxic af celeb/fan culture), there used to be rock band called "Dead Celebrities." I'm sure you can find them on the Intertrons. As a pro-celeb suicide activist, there's no doubt you'd love their music.

Here's one of their songs about suicide, just for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhTCL7FX3a8