goldenmellow

yes, that's what she meant. the male lead IS funny, but I wish he'd make a serious move already. There are only 5 episodes left.

I'm starting to ship AR with nobody. The two guys are manchildren fighting over a toy they both want. Maybe she and YJ can get together. They are the only two adults in the show.

tbh, he knows SHE has feelings but not really about his. He's been pretty consistent in bad mouthing her to SH, even just recently. SH could think if JW can't appreciate her, he will. As long as AR doesn't tell SH to stop bothering her, he's pretty free to like her and hang out with her. Even after the confession she was happy to see him and spend time with him, even in her own home. There is no harm in that. His feelings are his feelings.

I don't think SH should throw away a friendship for a crush, but I can also see his POV. And if anyone should back off it's JW. Them hanging out again has caused her and her family now nothing but misery. SH is not going to stop JW and AR from getting together. He's not cockblocking them like JW is to him. His feelings are mostly irrelevant honestly.

Don't believe it. He'll keep replying and mentioning you anyway. He's said the same thing to me more than once. Freaking stalker.

Don't mention my name. There's nothing wrong with what lily said. I don't agree with SH dating AR, but if SH does decide to he'll suffer the consequences of losing a friend (& losing AR). CJW does not own her & if NAR decides to continue seeing SH that's her choice.

CJW is being childish in making her work late. There wasn't a reason he couldn't have wish her happy bd & ask her out to dinner. In ep. 9 she knew he was faking, but in 10 he was abusing his power making her work until dawn.

I'm not a hater of JW/NAR getting back together. I want them together, but I want JW to change enough so I can support them. She is not perfect, but she has grown a LOT during 10 episodes. She admitted her mistakes, apologized and now just wants to work hard at a job she loves. She has no interest in getting back with him or getting revenge. Stop bringing up things from the PAST already.

Yep. Sh longs for a family like AR's (for who knows what reason....) and she treats him like a little bro. CJW's trick are cute. in episode 9 she also knew he was faking it, but didn't leave. She didn't HAVE to stay with him and blow off SH. In episode 10 it was slightly different since she was working, but I bet if she really didn't want to stay she could have left.

SH isn't playing tricks either. CJW and YJ all have played tricks and flat out lied as well. SH is very honest and sincere in his affection for AR. He also makes her feel good. She might not love him, but she does like spending time with him (with is more than we can say for CJW and YJ) and considers him a good friend.

I think SH is just mad that AR has feelings for him, not that they were ever married to start with. Tbh, I'm kind of CJW's side in this matter. You don't date your brother's ex-wife. Throwing away a friendship for a girl or guy you have a crush on too? I can't really agree with it, though CJW obviously needs the motivation to fight for her that only SH can provide.

I'm not even sure YJ is delusional enough to think they are dating. She's just passively aggressively telling AR to back off.

Don't listen to reason = won't agree with my opinion. Pretty funny. And I'm not baiting anyone. Jeez.. stop talking it personally people don't agree with you about a kdrama.

And btw times getting rough would be if he was fired or laid off, not if he freaking quit his job with no plan. That's just stupidity. Common goals in a marriage require MUTUAL agreement. Like what they agreed to when they got married. Not what he sprung on her 100 days in.

@lily333

Exactly. I don't care what he wanted to do for her, his lack of respect for her is something I can't so easily forgive. The fact that she has acknowledged her mistakes and he still hasn't makes me believe the drama is building up to his apology. I'm sure it'll be good.

And imo we are probably scaring/annoying everyone so yes, it's best to stop. It's pointless anyway.

> Remember what she said: 'I was in for the long haul when you were feeding me, not when I'm feeding you!' or something to that effect. That just goes to show ...

lol you do realize that's not the actual reason she filed for divorce right? That she was just saying hurtful things to save him from pain that was far greater (the miscarriage)

>And there's absolutely no bait & switch. Fine, she married a civil servant whom she KNEW had entrepreneurial ambitions!

Proof please. Never mind there is none. He said he'd never start a business. She said that and he did not deny it. The problem could have been she didn't know him well enough. And he didn't know her well enough to know how much she hated people who run businesses.

>What in the world are you talking about? JW was the epitome of nice, humble & with a good job (until he quit). That's why she married him!

Huh? that's what I said?? I think you are misunderstanding me. I said that's why she married him. Those were her conditions for marrying him that you seem to take offense to. So why is that wrong? I still fail to see why attraction to someone better than actual rational reasons for loving someone but what do I know..
And I don't hate JW. I want them to work it out. I find him mostly at fault (and about 95% of the viewers who watch this show seem to agree with this...) for what happened in the marriage. The guy knew what he was getting into. She didn't lie to him about what she wanted. He did lie to her though. And he's still in denial now and hasn't apologized. Until he does, I'm second lead shipping.

Yay best episode yet. Jealous CJW is too cute.

Adding since I'm long winded

If AR would tell him why she was so bitter and what actually happened they could move on, but he needs to admit he still loves her and stop playing games. Before they deal with the past, they can't move on together. Who is to more to blame is just really pointless to argue about since the actual issue is not money or quitting his job or her having to work multiple jobs. Though I still keep doing it...

Though this

>When you marry an entrepreneur you can't expect to live a cushy life right off the bat.

she didn't marry an entrepreneur. She married a civil servant. Bait and switch.

And btw, MrsLeeSeoJin I don't agree with you POV but I appreciate that you say it respectfully unlike the other person who goes around hating all women and calling people names.

God forbid we marry someone humble, nice and with a good job. Of course CJW is handsome. She found him cute when he was falling asleep. She wouldn't have hung out with him if he were hideous. NAR is more than just a pretty face as well. See how that works? lol. I'm simply saying they both had their reasons to fall in love and both ended up loving each other a lot. You can't really deny AR loves him right? You obviously don't deny he loves her either. People just harp on her marrying a good man with a good future and act like that's simply the worst thing a person could possibly do.

You are still seriously downplaying how hard she worked. Multiple jobs for 4 years and being the sole source of income isn't "a little work". You act like she had a part time job at McDonald's and she bitched about having to get her hands dirty.

lol yep. actually, it's rather pointless to fight over who is more wrong this far into the drama since the real reason she filed for divorce isn't even that clear. so, it's not really that she was just sick of him or that he quit his job. I'm going with a case of noble idiocy tbh.

@girl_on_fire
Yep! I really want him to just say what he wants. She backs off when YJ appears so he's going to have to make the move... I will happily ship her with SH in the meantime though. That boy is too sweet.

Well, the original post said she was a shitty wife who didn't want to do her part in the marriage (and I called JW a shitty husband) so I was replying to the original post, not whatever else you guys ended up talking about.

Obviously communication was an issue between the two. AR was too aggressive and bitter towards him, but he also showed no signs of changing either. He just expected her to deal with it forever until he got his business off the ground and got upset when she couldn't stand it any longer.

It's hard to feel pity for JW at this point because he's still stuck on being butthurt while she's moved past her pain and is still in love with him. You can also see how he acts in episode 8 and contrast to how she acts. He gets in the way of her and SH, while she leaves YJ and him alone. He has no intention of letting her be with another man, but can't own up to wanting her now.

And btw, being a housewife and a stay at home mother (which is what she obviously wanted) is still building a marriage mutually together. It's not something I would want with my life, but it's what Ae Ra wanted and CJW knew that's what she wanted. It's not easy work either.

He might feel grateful deep down, but he has yet to express that and until he does and says those words for Ae Ra he's still ungrateful in my eyes. He's still stuck in the past while she's moving forward. He never had to do much to woo her in the first place. She wanted to get married and he promised her something he wasn't able to give her. This time he's going to have to work a lot harder tbh.

Nope. She was a good wife. Yes, she was spoiled at times, but she never asked for a whole lot. She did lash out at him because he broke his promise to her. She supported his dream at the expense of her own & her child's life. How can you compromise when one party is enduring all the suffering? The compromise should have happened before he quit his job.

Yes, men aren't always the bread winners, but JW agreed to be the one working when they married. He also has the higher earning capabilities. AR did not have the ability to make decent money. She had to work many jobs for years to support them and he doesn't appreciate it even now.

And his love didn't have conditions? FYI Go back and notice how often he calls her "pretty". For some reason, that's totally fine with a lot of people for a man to like a woman for her looks, but a woman wanting stability is being a gold digger.

I think she wants him back because she loves him deep down. She didn't ever really want to divorce, but not because she wants revenge on him. Tbh, I don't expect her to fight for him at all. She divorced him for a reason. She'd let him go to YJ so he could be happy.

And for the last time she didn't just marry for comfort and status. He had no status in the first place. Her reasons for falling in love with him are no different than his reasons (you can see how often he repeats "pretty" when he talks about her). They BOTH loved each other for their own reasons. Bottom line.

He broke his promise to her. He made her suffer. That's not being a good husband. Now he thinks he's the only victim. That's not being a good person. He needs to change a lot. Ae Ra deserves someone much better than him.

She did want him to do well in life. If she didn't she would have forced him to sell his office, pay his debts and give her alimony. What she was mad about is that he got rich off her idea while she was still suffering paying off his debts. When they met again he also did that whole contract/alimony crap.

And no, she's the bigger victim by far. She lost a child (no, a miscarriage doesn't have the same effect on him as it did her) & is discriminated against because of her age/ divorce. While he's considered a catch for any woman, she'd considered lucky to get married again. The pain he went through is nothing compared to what she did. He'll realize it soon.

He would have found investors... how? He only got them by chance because he was depressed and drinking. Tho not like it matters since she didn't file for divorce for those reasons anyway.