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I don't know what you're talking about honestly. I don't see where she's blaming him for not staying with her. If you're talking about the past then usually people marry expecting that the other stays until death so I'm pretty sure she did expect him to stay until then. And we have no reason to think that she was particularly resentful about the divorce because she's been co-parenting Hashi with him, making him perfume and most importantly she moved on and has a whole new life and partner now. If you're talking about her comment on the bench, again we just won't see eye to eye on it, I personally don't see it as a dig at him leaving her or her wishing he never left. I think she told him exactly what he needed to hear, that we all make our personal choices on parenthood regardless of who we're with. He especially needs to hear this because this grown man is still resentful about something that happened at least 7 years ago!? It's unbecoming of his age, he needs to work on himself and move on already, make his own choices in life, yet he's still out here causing scenes, starting fights and throwing tantrums over his ex-wife being pregnant. Any sane person would react like "Well that stings a bit but I understand this has absolutely nothing to do with me, good luck!" He's acting crazy.

Well to me, the fact that she tried to hide it when confronted was just human?? The positive pregnancy test is literally still in the garbage, I imagine both the reveal and the abortion could have happened within the past 3 days for her so I'm just not seeing how her initial denial over being found out is a sign of ill intent or strategic manipulation? She was caught red handed and reacted badly for 30 second and then admitted to what happened after. It's just human to me.
I don't think we are understanding her words in the same way. You seem to think her telling him that this could've been his baby is some sort of dig at him for divorcing her or her saying I actually also wish it was you. I think she's merely continuing on with her earlier explanation on why she's pregnant now even though previously she didn't want kids. She's telling him my decision and readiness to have kids has nothing to do with anybody else, there's nothing about him that prevented her from wanting to have a child. Wether with him or with someone else, she would have been having kids at the exact moment she's having them now. Only she can choose when to be become a mother. He also can choose to become a father on his own terms, he chose it for himself back when they were in their 30s, now he is in his 40s and still only yearning for it, why? Because only her can be the mom? No, it's because he's passive about it. Her talk with him is meant to be a wake up call, we all make our own choices!
I just don't get why you think it was the hiding it that truly bothered the ML, what discussions or scenes made you come to this conclusion because all I've seen so far is him wanting to become a father and being resentful that she she didn't choose to become a mother. Even back then, he didn't day anything to the effect of "I can't believe you didn't tell me" so I'm curious where you saw that it wasn't the abortion itself that caused the breakup?

This show is beautifuly written and discusses an interesting topic and yet people are missing the point entirely.
Is the ex-wife there to portray the villain? Is the reveal in the paintings in ep5 there just for some cheap thrill? My god no.
This show is about how motherhood and fatherhood are two choices that we make individualy and yet society acts as if fatherhood is merely a side symptom of motherhood existing.
From the get go you have the situation of the FL, her mother chooses to abandon motherhood of one child, her father too makes the same choice to forgo fatherhood of the sister and yet the FL doesn't seem to care as much.
Then you have the case with the infertile husband, here we have a man who's choice of fatherhood is taken from him. And yet when he asks for compensation, everyone thinks his sperm is worthless, it is only by introducing the wife's desire for motherhood that his stolen fatherhood becomes of value.
Next you have the abusive father. All throughout the episode there's barely any mention of the mom. She only shows up as a blurry figure at the end. This is INTENTIONAL! The fact the she wasn't there, the fact that her motherhood was denied doesn't mean that that man couldn't choose fatherhood for himself (even when he hated the child).
And now we have the case of the absent father. The mother retained her motherhood and the father forgo his after a awhile And YET even when the present motherhood tries to erase even the memory of fatherhood it cannot, so the father remains, hidden but strongly present(!) in the child's life regardless of the mother's wishes to delete him from it.
So then what about the ML? What's his issue? His issue is precisely that he thinks fatherhood is only a byproduct of motherhood! His has spent years wallowing over having fatherhood stolen from him because he doesn't understand that fatherhood cannot be stolen. In a previous episode the FL tells him "you would make a great father" even after she learns that he is single. In this episode the ex-wife tells him the same thing "You would be a great father". She tells him something even more important: whether still with him or with her current husband she would have chosen motherhood at the exact time she had chosen now. Because it is a choice, an individual choice that has nothing to do with anybody else. But unfortunately the ML is still too stuck on motherhood to choose fatherhood. And he has been stuck there from the start, I suspect he actually has always wanted kids but he never dared voice this desire to his then wife, he didn't think fatherhood was a choice he could make, either by asking for it outright or leaving to seek it elsewhere, no, he just waited for motherhood to happen, and now is still grieving the motherhood that didn't happen.

You think not forcing a pregnancy on someone is what respect is. We won't see eye to eye. If he truly respected her he would have told her when he started wanting kids "hey I had a change of heart about kids, what does our future look like now?". Both of them avoided this discussion because even she could tell he wouldn't support her through an abortion. At the very least, if he respected her, he would have seen the test and went to her ready to finally have the discussion. He would have said "Are you pregnant? What do you wanna do about it because I know you said no kids". It's literally ridiculous that he expected her to be even happy about it, like no discussion or questions needed, he wanted to be a dad so of course she also wanted to be a mom. Now that's unreasonable as hell.

You oversympathize with him because the show is about him, not her. So you see all his pain and grief, his internal emotional world and all you see from her are her action so you think of them mathematicaly. She hid it, she shouldn't have so she wronged him. It's very simple like that but you have to ask yourself why did she hide it? They both agreed to be childfree so why hide it? Isn't because he had already betrayed their decision to be childfree? And wasn't it also a change of lifestyle he decided on by his lonesome without discussing it with her? He saw the pregnancy test and didn't consider her desire to be childfree at all, he just immediately started happily imagining being a dad. This is why she didn't tell him, because she knew she couldn't rely on him to respect her choice, their choice! He wanted a different life and clearly expected her to just follow along. His resentment is over this fact more than it is about her hiding this from him, this is obvious! He feels entitled to being a dad and he thinks she robbed him of that. Actually she didn't rob him of anything. They were incompatible and it took an unwanted pregnancy for him to finally realize that they were but he still blames her for not having a change of heart. This is why she tells him this child could have been yours, she wants him to understand that he couldn't have forced her to have a change of heart, she would have had still only had kids when she was ready for them. It has nothing to do with whom she is married to. But he's too blinded by resentment and entitlment to see that, he thinks it has something to do with him specifically.

The scene starts with him yelling at her husband and then acting indignant that the husband would defend himself because how dare him marry the woman he divorced?? And then she asks her husband to calm down and takes a moment to talk with her ex and explain her personal life to him (which she doesn't have to do) to which he responds with not even looking at her, shaking his head at her and questioning her decision. He looks almost disgusted at her.
She didn't say "you shouldn't have let me go" she's clearly happy that he did and is leading a blessed life now, she actually was trying to comfort him saying she's sure he would have made a great father and her change of heart about kids has nothing to do with him, in fact she knows if they had stayed together, this would have been his kid she was carrying. This woman literally made 6months reserve of his favorite cologne for him and y'all are trying to paint to be resentful when he is.
And you are absolutely right, it's selfish to stay with someone in hopes that they would change their mind on kids, so he really should have told her he didn't want to be childfree before an unwanted pregnancy forced the truth out.

No one is disputing the fact that a discussion should have happened but let's try to understand why it didn't. After all this is a couple who have already agreed to be child free, so you must ask yourself why this woman would hide the obvious choice from her husband? Hm? Why did she feel that she needed to conceal this choice that would have been perfectly in line with their chosen childfree lifestyle? Why did she feel that she couldn't ask to rely on her partner while she went trough a tough procedure so they can continue to lead the lifestyle they both wanted to have? Isn't it because she knew she was with a man who already decided on a different path for them and would leave her if he knew she didn't want the same thing? That she wanted to end that possibility before it happened? Is that who you want to tell you're getting an abortion?

Getting an abortion doesn't make you a shitty person. The discussion happened before the marriage where she told him no kids and he agreed. Should she have told him about the pregnancy? Sure. But it's obvious why she didn't isn't it? This man knows his wife doesn't want kids and yet when he saw the pregnancy test he just bounded over happily to her like yay! I'm gonna be a dad! If he actually respected her wishes to not have kids or cared what she wanted, he would have seen that test and known that a tough discussion will have to be had. I can't blame her for doing what she had to do, without his guilting and judging her for it. She knew he would end the marriage over it and he did, he divorced her over it and he's still guilting and judging her for her choice to this day so that's the sort of person he is. Imagine telling him "I'm having an abortion". She's not a villainess, they were both unkind to each other. The difference is she's moved on and he's still willowing in resentment.

I'm wondering if the new partner is his ex mother in law. I also wonder what he whispered into the other attorneys ear? Must have been a threat of some sort, I'm curious so I hope they go back to that next episode

His entire reaction to her pregnancy was disrespectful and taunting. She was incredibly patient with him. She's trying to explain something to him that's very normal and reasonable and he answers with a disdainful face and reproaches as if she owes him something. It's ridiculous truly that he still feels entitled to a pregnancy from her and feels wronged that the woman he divorced would become pregnant but not from him. I felt that her remark was necessary and came from a place of truth. If he hadn't let her go, if he has respected her decision, they would have had no reason to break up and she would have eventually felt secure and safe enough in the relationship to try and take on the responsibility of pregnancy and child rearing. He really needs to let go.

This drama would be so great if the revenge wasn't half baked.
I can understand that the FL's plan is get close to the king and wait for an opportunity to strike but I cannot deal with her joining hands with Kim Myung Ha?? Hellooo this is the man who wrote a false testimony that fucked your life over? You are happily offering to help him avenge his dad? you mean the person who tortured your friend and the reason why she died eventually??
It makes no sense at all for her to be seeking revenge on the king exclusively whilst being chill with the people who had the biggest hand in her friend's death. Mind you these people also tried to frame her dad as a traitor!
The king is the best thing about this show, I'm on episode 7 and I still haven't figured him out. Did he really have his eyes on the crown from the start or did he just step into this role to protect the kingdom/his brother's son? very captivating character!

This show falls short of being great.
I had relatively high expectations since many called this a hidden gem, unfortunately I think what saves the show are the acting chops of the leads and Nam Ki Ae.
The story could have been told in 10 episodes, so many empty scenes and twists that do nothing but retell us what has already been established. The story itself is not so bad, its just not told efficiently.
The chemistry is great between the leads. I kept watching just because I was rooting for them and wanted so badly for them to find comfort in each other. Maybe I'm in the minority but I didn't care for the secondary couple at all.
This show has one of the hottest kissing scenes in a drama ever, it almost makes up for the lack of affectionate scenes between the leads all throughout the show.
My advice would be give it a shot but maybe use the 1.5 speed sometimes.

Huang Xuan's incredible acting elevates this series an incredible amount. I'm amazed at how much sense and soul he managed to infuse into what is essentially an average plot and story.
This is the first work I've seen of his and well I'm a fan now.

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