OMG. I don't know if this a comedy skit in China, but it was hilarious when applied to this video.https://twitter.com/tlmssusu/status/1696890494003843305?s=20Consolation…
Slow clap 👏👏 👏Maybe everyone should first get an internship on the CX ship, since the amount of character…
Yeah, it's fair game. We see something, we react to it. Sometimes the reaction is positive, sometimes it isn't. Disliking something doesn't automatically make someone a hater. I'm not in any way obligated to like a character just because people keep telling me he's the best one there is, or because it's the "endgame". We can still appreciated the work even if we dislike aspects of it. Same with any character. Poor CX was dragged into this hahaha, sorry CX.
Okay, I keep reading some things being written over and over, and I wanted to weigh in. It’s just my opinion, so feel free to bash it at will, but I don't really see the problem with criticizing fictional characters, just the same as showing appreciation for them.
These are, I repeat, FICTIONAL CHARACTERS, not real people. These characters are written to evoke a reaction from the audience, and whether it's a positive or negative reaction, it's not up to us to shut people down. Now if we were talking about the actors, then that's where I draw the line. As long as there are no attacks on real people who are just doing their jobs (I'll admit, sometimes I need to bite my tongue, 'cause the frustration is real), praising or criticizing a fictional character is a normal consequence of consuming media. Don’t forget that this is a product, like any other.
This drama will continue to gain an even wider audience, especially when it hits Netflix in many countries, and no, most people will not (nor should they have to) read the novel. People don't need to read the original work to understand this or that character's motivation or to refrain from judging a character harshly simply because “they haven't read the novel". The drama is the drama; the book is the book; and should there ever exist a Bollywood musical adaptation, then Indian Xiang Liu will have nothing to do with his novel or Cdrama counterparts (except for the dancing skills, but I digress). If an adaptation needs to be accompanied by the obligatory reading of the original work it’s based on, then it’s not doing what’s supposed to do. I don’t need to read Ian Fleming’s novels to understand the 007 movies.
So it's not unreasonable to think that people will continue to have favorites and will continue to express their dissatisfaction with this or that character or with the plot as a whole, based on what they see in the drama. It has been this way for centuries and it will continue to be like this whether people like it or not, even more so in the age of social media.
I'm sure many of you know this, but anyway here's a little piece of history. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle also tried to be very edgy in December 1893, when The Final Problem was published and he decided to kill Sherlock Holmes (he was kind of tired of the character and wanted to go back to writing more “serious” work). There was a never-seen-before backlash and the pressure from the public was so powerful that The Strand Magazine almost went bankrupt with the huge amount of sudden cancellations of their subscriptions.
Ok Nathanna, so what is your point? My point is that audiences have been voicing their opinions since time immemorial and it’s not something unfathomable to express dissatisfaction about any piece of media, its plot, or characters. There are plenty of universally despised characters, such as Dolores Umbridge from Harry Potter and Joffrey Baratheon from Game of Thrones. We don't see people up in arms when there are harsh comments about characters such as these. So why should people be walking on eggshells when it’s a “nice” character being the cause of frustration from a portion of the audience? Are nice characters immune to criticism? I do not care if this or that character is the best “husband material” or if the other is “abusive or toxic”. I’m interested in the story I’m watching, and there are things in this story that bore me to tears. I do not care who the endgame is, I haven’t read the novel and even if I had, I have the right to like it just as much as the right to loathe it. Saying this is not a capital crime. Also, no need to be worried about the author’s feelings because she’s laughing all the way to the bank thanks to all the heated discussions her work is causing.
Novel readers know this better than anyone because I’ve read plenty of your explanations and comments, and it’s been said more than once that this particular character has not been written with as much care as the other more popular ones. It has also been said that the actor was able to elevate it to the point of actually making people care more about him than what was expected, so this argument of “you have to read the novel” falls flat. Lulupony below said it perfectly: "the convos here are already mixing up drama and novel like they're one and the same". They're not.
So no, I do not have to read the novel in order to appreciate this or that character. If I decide to read the novel one day, it’s because I want to immerse myself more in this universe, not because I need it to understand the show. Yes, we have different views about plenty of things in this story, and expressing those diverging views should not be considered hate, animosity, or negativity. How boring it would be if everyone liked the same things and this was just a huge echo chamber of cheers and praises. I guess we already have enough boredom as it is.
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Saw it completely by chance. It's not like I have the notification bell on. I don't. What?
These are, I repeat, FICTIONAL CHARACTERS, not real people. These characters are written to evoke a reaction from the audience, and whether it's a positive or negative reaction, it's not up to us to shut people down. Now if we were talking about the actors, then that's where I draw the line. As long as there are no attacks on real people who are just doing their jobs (I'll admit, sometimes I need to bite my tongue, 'cause the frustration is real), praising or criticizing a fictional character is a normal consequence of consuming media. Don’t forget that this is a product, like any other.
This drama will continue to gain an even wider audience, especially when it hits Netflix in many countries, and no, most people will not (nor should they have to) read the novel. People don't need to read the original work to understand this or that character's motivation or to refrain from judging a character harshly simply because “they haven't read the novel". The drama is the drama; the book is the book; and should there ever exist a Bollywood musical adaptation, then Indian Xiang Liu will have nothing to do with his novel or Cdrama counterparts (except for the dancing skills, but I digress). If an adaptation needs to be accompanied by the obligatory reading of the original work it’s based on, then it’s not doing what’s supposed to do. I don’t need to read Ian Fleming’s novels to understand the 007 movies.
So it's not unreasonable to think that people will continue to have favorites and will continue to express their dissatisfaction with this or that character or with the plot as a whole, based on what they see in the drama. It has been this way for centuries and it will continue to be like this whether people like it or not, even more so in the age of social media.
I'm sure many of you know this, but anyway here's a little piece of history. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle also tried to be very edgy in December 1893, when The Final Problem was published and he decided to kill Sherlock Holmes (he was kind of tired of the character and wanted to go back to writing more “serious” work). There was a never-seen-before backlash and the pressure from the public was so powerful that The Strand Magazine almost went bankrupt with the huge amount of sudden cancellations of their subscriptions.
Ok Nathanna, so what is your point? My point is that audiences have been voicing their opinions since time immemorial and it’s not something unfathomable to express dissatisfaction about any piece of media, its plot, or characters. There are plenty of universally despised characters, such as Dolores Umbridge from Harry Potter and Joffrey Baratheon from Game of Thrones. We don't see people up in arms when there are harsh comments about characters such as these. So why should people be walking on eggshells when it’s a “nice” character being the cause of frustration from a portion of the audience? Are nice characters immune to criticism? I do not care if this or that character is the best “husband material” or if the other is “abusive or toxic”. I’m interested in the story I’m watching, and there are things in this story that bore me to tears. I do not care who the endgame is, I haven’t read the novel and even if I had, I have the right to like it just as much as the right to loathe it. Saying this is not a capital crime. Also, no need to be worried about the author’s feelings because she’s laughing all the way to the bank thanks to all the heated discussions her work is causing.
Novel readers know this better than anyone because I’ve read plenty of your explanations and comments, and it’s been said more than once that this particular character has not been written with as much care as the other more popular ones. It has also been said that the actor was able to elevate it to the point of actually making people care more about him than what was expected, so this argument of “you have to read the novel” falls flat. Lulupony below said it perfectly: "the convos here are already mixing up drama and novel like they're one and the same". They're not.
So no, I do not have to read the novel in order to appreciate this or that character. If I decide to read the novel one day, it’s because I want to immerse myself more in this universe, not because I need it to understand the show. Yes, we have different views about plenty of things in this story, and expressing those diverging views should not be considered hate, animosity, or negativity. How boring it would be if everyone liked the same things and this was just a huge echo chamber of cheers and praises. I guess we already have enough boredom as it is.