QiuYan sometimes annoy me... but her sister QiuMin ... she is in another level ughhhpefect angel face devilish…
It's weird, Qiu Min is quite spineless in speaking for her self, but she's actually quite callous and doesn't think of the consequences when she throws other people under the bus.
Qiu Yan wants to get revenge on other people, but the way she does it isn't life-threatening—like exposing their dubious façade, getting them beaten up, etc. She only tries to pull them down a notch or two, but not in any way that would kill them or ruin the whole clan.
She has a bottom line. Currently in the earlier episodes she does seem selfish because she's in a mess (Qiu Family Fiasco number 1—Marriage Mess). So she's in a fight-or-flight mode and has a bit of a tunnel vision that makes her go I will survive no matter what.
But it is shown in the later episodes around the time the family gets into another mess (Qiu Family Fiasco number 2 — Money Matters, which is not related to her, but they want to use her again as a scapegoat) that she wants them to eat their piece of humble pie but she wouldn't go as far as ruin their lives, no matter how hell-bent the others are in ruining hers. And she doesn't spite her sister or tattle the questionable things her sister did to her to their parents, even though said sister throws her under the bus.
Also, when the Fiasco number 2 is concluded, she starts to question her motives about the second male lead.
FL is a strong courageous woman; tried to follow parents’ wishes & marry a general’s son, but got herself…
Somewhere after the Qiu family fiasco number 2 (I think...there are bound to be heaps of them I call the marriage mess fiasco number 1), she starts to question her dedication to her scheme, and also she starts to give credit more to the ML that he's not a complete jerk.
Does it make sense that the main legal wife/mom cares for fl more than the concubine (biological mom of fl)
2nd Madam is a rarity in that sense. It was confusing at first though. But the biological mum's actions are not unusual; normally, concubines want sons because sons give them an advantage in gaining a footing the household.
Currently watching this since I am waiting for other dramas to release subbed episodes. So far, the characters I like regardless of whether they are good or bad or in between, are first equals Yuwen Hu (Jeremy Tsui) and Dugu Banruo (Ady An), next are Dongqu, Zheng Rong, and Lady Wang. The FL for me is only so-so—she did improve towards the end, so I'll give her a pass. But let's not talk about the ML. I have issues with how stupid he can get? Argh. His right-hand man has more brain cells than he does. And I thought Gu Tingye takes the most gullible prize. But anyway.
My gripe is the way Dugu Mantuo (Li Yi Xiao) was written. She is annoying as hell, but I do wish they gave her moments of clarity and her motivations were made clearer so that we just don't end up purely hating her. Yes, she's good in making us hate her, but I feel that we do because we have to. And I think it's a disservice to the character.
The ending for me isn't happy or sad—it's just stating what happened. Quite frankly I wasn't expecting any saccharine they-ride-into-the-sunset type of ending. But hey, I survived 55 episodes (granted with fast-forwards and skips).
In EP15 or 16 I think (ah forgot which one!) When Mr Meng is talking to Mr Rong in the study, he hinted about…
Oh yeah, Meng did point that out his appearance isn't for revenge. And I'm like huh? He's obviously there for revenge (duh), but then he was being honest (ironically though) when he said he's there for a reunion. I'm going back and forth with this show because every now and then there's a hint thrown and they are again picked up later on, and some of the hints are very very subtle.
Can anybody who has watched EP15/16 (forgot which one exactly!) spoil me/enlighten me? Thanks in advance! :)
In EP15 or 16 I think (ah forgot which one!) When Mr Meng is talking to Mr Rong in the study, he hinted about the wife with two kids dying in an ambush, with the eldest child which should be about Jiashang's age by now. Does that mean that Jiashang isn't the eldest? I'm confused. Is he even Mr Rong's son? And also in the past episodes where Jiashang was in the Feng house, and he saw a photo of the fam, he commented that Shizhen and her brother don't resemble each other at all, which drama logic suggests there is some birth/family secret there.
Qiu Yan wants to get revenge on other people, but the way she does it isn't life-threatening—like exposing their dubious façade, getting them beaten up, etc. She only tries to pull them down a notch or two, but not in any way that would kill them or ruin the whole clan.
But it is shown in the later episodes around the time the family gets into another mess (Qiu Family Fiasco number 2 — Money Matters, which is not related to her, but they want to use her again as a scapegoat) that she wants them to eat their piece of humble pie but she wouldn't go as far as ruin their lives, no matter how hell-bent the others are in ruining hers. And she doesn't spite her sister or tattle the questionable things her sister did to her to their parents, even though said sister throws her under the bus.
Also, when the Fiasco number 2 is concluded, she starts to question her motives about the second male lead.
My gripe is the way Dugu Mantuo (Li Yi Xiao) was written. She is annoying as hell, but I do wish they gave her moments of clarity and her motivations were made clearer so that we just don't end up purely hating her. Yes, she's good in making us hate her, but I feel that we do because we have to. And I think it's a disservice to the character.
The ending for me isn't happy or sad—it's just stating what happened. Quite frankly I wasn't expecting any saccharine they-ride-into-the-sunset type of ending. But hey, I survived 55 episodes (granted with fast-forwards and skips).