Just watched this at JFF. Didn't know that it's already out online, but at least I can watch it again. Also I'm glad that I watch this on the big screen first, it was really stunning.
It was a really beautiful film. Amazing performance from the casts. I've been a fan of Kiyohara Kaya since Okaeri Mone, but this is my first time watching work with Yokohama Ryusei in lead role. I like the cinematography, and I can see that they tried to fit everything in the time that they have, but I actually didn't mind that.
Is it really bad? Why is it only 1 star so far? It makes me want to watch it just to find out if it is really…
I wouldn't say it's that bad, but this drama focus a lot on the technical aspect of TV shopping, so if you are not interested, it will be boring. It doesn't have much to offer if you want to see romance and such. IMO their workplace drama isn't that hostile either.
I think the description and genre tags make people thought that it will focuses more on drama and romance instead of TV shopping.
I have only watched a bit of the previous version (with Yamada Ryosuke) so this probably wouldn't be a good comparison, but it feels like Kindaichi's explanation this time isn't that long-winded compared to the previous one(?), so I really like that.
Somehow managed to watch the drama on dtv, but the process was a hassle. IMO the spinoff doesn't really add anything…
Episode 1: Set during high school. Kazuha was a playboy who dated 2 girls at the same time (which kind of explain his behavior in the main story) while Kaede couldn't move on from Mitsu. Apparently he only dated Nina because she is Kazuha's cousin. Kaede was lamenting about Mitsu the whole time, but he couldn't even greet her when he found her by coincidence. In the end, Kazuha got discovered and slapped by his girlfriends lol, and Kaede decided to find a new love in university. Also seeing how serious Kaede is about her feelings on Mitsu makes him decide to stop playing around and find his 'one true soulmate'.
Episode 2: Cover the earlier part of the main story. Instead of reconciling with Mitsu, Kaede wanted to take revenge because he thought Mitsu dumped him back then because he failed to become a regular in his baseball team. Even lashed out at Kazuha when he tried to rationalize him. When it turns out it's all a misunderstanding, Kaede realised he still really loved her.
Note: Also similar to Professor Watanuki lesson in the main story, the spinoff has a 'sauna master' (Tomoya Maeno) who frequently gave advice to Kaede, sauna style.
Somehow managed to watch the drama on dtv, but the process was a hassle. IMO the spinoff doesn't really add anything to the main story, but we are given an insight on the guys high school life and Kaede's perspective on his breakup. Also a LOT of sauna scenes. Quite a good deal for Kaede and Kazuha fans, since pretty much half of this drama is filled with fanservice. (Long) spoiler on the drama below:
It's a standard healthy romance manga (with bunch of mature scene thrown in). The conflicts can be repetitive…
- Kazuha is actually pretty tame compared to others. Yes, he kissed Mitsu, but he also stopped pursuing her soon after he confessed what he did to Kaede, even though it's obvious that he still likes her. - Nina is more aggressive, she actually has two arc on her still pursuing Kaede (latest episode (episode 6) squeezed it all in in one episode, but in the manga her conflict was longer than Kazuha). - This probably wouldn't be adapted, but there's an arc about an international student who loves to break up couple for no reason. Also another conflict about club members. - They are also in long distance relationship in the end, and it was hinted that Kazuha is still trying to pursue her, but he didn't do anything in the end.
Two episode spinoff (Motokare ￩ retry ~ Kanojo ga Shiranai Bokutachi no Hon'ne ~) has been announced, to be released exclusively on the dTV streaming platform. The spinoff will be focusing on the boys' side, particularly Kaede and Kazuha high school days. It will start on 27th May.
It's a standard healthy romance manga (with bunch of mature scene thrown in). The conflicts can be repetitive though (I think the mangaka wanted to show us that nothing can disrupt their relationship(?)). But it sold 1 million copies in Japan, so it's quite popular.
IMO it's better for people to go in blind in watching the drama instead of reading the manga first.
Just finished the movie. It was ok.. I thought the project that they were doing was cool. You know, about those…
Coming from someone who has read the novel and watched the anime film, no, the painting's project doesn't exist (the original novel was darker when it comes to Makoto's life and personality).
Akira's character doesn't exist in the original either, but it was probably very loosely based on the girl who was from the art club in the original, who was described as 'unattractive'. Of course, that doesn't apply to this adaptation or towards Akira.
I'm a fan of original novel, though the movie only kept a few aspect from it (it's easier to list out things that they didn't change compared to what they have changed).
I don't have the problem with how they changed things, and liked how they kept "Makoto's" monologue. That aspect alone makes me prefer this version compared to the anime.
Though I would prefer if they didn't change the father's character, or removing the male friend he made in the original story.
I haven't seen all the episodes yet, but have been keeping up with the spoiler and theory released, so I would…
Yeah, Issei's actions throughout the drama is suspicious too, many are suspecting his fundraising for his mother's cafe renovation (like he's trying to erase the evidence)
Ok, I have officially come to terms with typical "evil twin" trope. It might very well be the case here. The dad…
I haven't seen all the episodes yet, but have been keeping up with the spoiler and theory released, so I would like to give my two cents on this:
Apparently, there's a lot of information that is lost in between Japanese and international viewers (also not helped by the fact that the videos being region-blocked and none of the contents outside the drama itself was subbed), so what is officially confirmed is that:
- There is more than one case - the kidnappings are done by a different person, a lot of Japanese fans believe that all of the disappearances/kidnappings are done by a different person (or maybe Hikari and Atsuto were kidnapped together) - According to Ninomiya's actress, the 'true' culprit already appeared in episode 1, so it's not a new character that will appear in the end (bonus hint: Only Ninomiya and Issei knew the culprit)
The theory that constantly appeared among Japanese viewers are:
- The evil twin theory - it did appear, but it's not the dad. It's Issei and Motoki Haruka (the funeral director, and the woman who 'mistook' Sagara in the first episode. There are multiple reasons for this (their naming convention, same age, Proxima company name is basically their name, etc). Viewers tracked back to episode 5 after the latest episode to discover that Motoki is probably part of his online salon (she wasn't shown, but the voice was unmistakably hers). Issei is probably the real culprit and Motoki is the accomplice (there are probably not twins, but they are most probably related in some way).
- The reason for the crime is also believed to be revenge, but it's because of something that happened 10 years ago that was constantly being hinted at throughout the show. The body of the frozen child sent to Sagara is probably also related to them in some way.
- Maho and Ninomiya was also suspected, especially since Ninomiya's past is yet to be revealed, and Maho link with the religion.
It was a really beautiful film. Amazing performance from the casts. I've been a fan of Kiyohara Kaya since Okaeri Mone, but this is my first time watching work with Yokohama Ryusei in lead role. I like the cinematography, and I can see that they tried to fit everything in the time that they have, but I actually didn't mind that.
Episode 1: https://youtu.be/JrvUkOCoIT8
Episode 2: https://youtu.be/ldKe9JMkQcU
I think the description and genre tags make people thought that it will focuses more on drama and romance instead of TV shopping.
https://youtu.be/usmVGoax7-k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhacoSyNRzQ
Ending song - なんとなく最低な日々 (Momoiro Clover Z):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUDFwiqOr8A
Episode 2: Cover the earlier part of the main story. Instead of reconciling with Mitsu, Kaede wanted to take revenge because he thought Mitsu dumped him back then because he failed to become a regular in his baseball team. Even lashed out at Kazuha when he tried to rationalize him. When it turns out it's all a misunderstanding, Kaede realised he still really loved her.
Note: Also similar to Professor Watanuki lesson in the main story, the spinoff has a 'sauna master' (Tomoya Maeno) who frequently gave advice to Kaede, sauna style.
- Nina is more aggressive, she actually has two arc on her still pursuing Kaede (latest episode (episode 6) squeezed it all in in one episode, but in the manga her conflict was longer than Kazuha).
- This probably wouldn't be adapted, but there's an arc about an international student who loves to break up couple for no reason. Also another conflict about club members.
- They are also in long distance relationship in the end, and it was hinted that Kazuha is still trying to pursue her, but he didn't do anything in the end.
Source: https://news.dwango.jp/tv/70075-2204
IMO it's better for people to go in blind in watching the drama instead of reading the manga first.
Akira's character doesn't exist in the original either, but it was probably very loosely based on the girl who was from the art club in the original, who was described as 'unattractive'. Of course, that doesn't apply to this adaptation or towards Akira.
I don't have the problem with how they changed things, and liked how they kept "Makoto's" monologue. That aspect alone makes me prefer this version compared to the anime.
Though I would prefer if they didn't change the father's character, or removing the male friend he made in the original story.
Theories involving Motoki always connects her with Issei, so I'm not sure if they knew each other.
Apparently, there's a lot of information that is lost in between Japanese and international viewers (also not helped by the fact that the videos being region-blocked and none of the contents outside the drama itself was subbed), so what is officially confirmed is that:
- There is more than one case - the kidnappings are done by a different person, a lot of Japanese fans believe that all of the disappearances/kidnappings are done by a different person (or maybe Hikari and Atsuto were kidnapped together)
- According to Ninomiya's actress, the 'true' culprit already appeared in episode 1, so it's not a new character that will appear in the end (bonus hint: Only Ninomiya and Issei knew the culprit)
The theory that constantly appeared among Japanese viewers are:
- The evil twin theory - it did appear, but it's not the dad. It's Issei and Motoki Haruka (the funeral director, and the woman who 'mistook' Sagara in the first episode. There are multiple reasons for this (their naming convention, same age, Proxima company name is basically their name, etc). Viewers tracked back to episode 5 after the latest episode to discover that Motoki is probably part of his online salon (she wasn't shown, but the voice was unmistakably hers). Issei is probably the real culprit and Motoki is the accomplice (there are probably not twins, but they are most probably related in some way).
- The reason for the crime is also believed to be revenge, but it's because of something that happened 10 years ago that was constantly being hinted at throughout the show. The body of the frozen child sent to Sagara is probably also related to them in some way.
- Maho and Ninomiya was also suspected, especially since Ninomiya's past is yet to be revealed, and Maho link with the religion.