I've just tried to clarify the timelines in episodes 13 and 14. We know from some dialogue that the mother dies…
Wow! That is some complicated stuff... I don't reckon it's that difficult to follow the timeline as I remember a few scenes where the years are clearly shown to the audience.
For example, in the Dad's workshop, when Gu and Yeom Dad are working together during that hothot summer a wall calender dated 2019 is clearly shown a few times. Then, we already had scenes of Gu back to his job at the club/casino in Seoul and we saw him leaving a New Years' Party for 2022...
So, I think the "summer of Gu" for the Yeom family was 2019, he left them before winter was over bec. Mi Jung repeatedly mentioned she and Gu were going to be "transformed" by the end of winter through their practice of adoring each other-- and we never got to see that... Gu's return then is in 2022 - it's again very cold, he's freezing waiting for Mi Jung in front of the train station, so it could be early 2022.
Question: Is Dad really married again? I must've missed that reference. I thought that lady could just be a house-keeper or hired domestic helper..... (?)
Nope. She has expectations from him. Like, he will understand her, he will never let her down.They are living…
I'm surprised nobody actually comments or picked up on the fact that Mr Gu acts like a bit of a jerk (or gae seki ?) by returning to the family who welcomed him and helped him recover from something akin to a mental/physical breakdown a few years ago. Now he is trying to visit them again; after breaking off all contact completely , he seems to have arrived at the same point of breakdown again, he seems tired, run down, alcoholic, depressed. Isn't it utterly selfish to only now think about Mi Jung and the Yeom family again when he might need them again for another recovery??
Wow, there were a few unexpected developments in episode 13 and 14. This was a very moving and realistic depiction of grief in this last episode. Mi Jung and her father - dry eyed, stoic, but probably screaming on the inside, and the two older siblings - more outwardly emotional, crying their eyes out and overcome with tears at any given time during the day - waiting for the bus or eating breakfast with Dad..... This resonated very much with me and I found it realistic and beautiful.
It's so sad that the father cannot find any words to communicate his feelings. He is more open and talkative with Mr Gu than with his own family... That breakfast of father and son was devastating, when Chang Hee is suddenly overcome with tears and doesn't dare to cry openly in front of his father, but gets up from the table to sob and cry somewhere else...... This is so sad... I wonder if we will get a few more scenes with Dad that could explain his extremely taciturn character and emotional unavailability... But there's not much time left!!!
Btw- has anyone noticed the jaunty, imaginative camerawork recently? In one scene with Ki Jung the camera is positioned inside a laundry basket (!)and we see her looking and reaching inside it, and in another similar shot, the camera looks up at her from inside some kind of cupboard/refridgerator from which she heaves out some kimchi (? I think..) containers . Those were some unusual, cool shots and camera angles...
I felt so sad for the Dad when Mr Gu left. ;-( He had finally found someone he could work with and was clearly hoping for more - a future with Gu there permanently. He was even teaching him about how to handle customers' orders and how not to be defrauded of his money when they suddenly cancel orders .... Gu's uncomfortable, guilty expression spoke volumes about his intentions to leave soon....
Back in 2017, I remember falling in love with Son Seok Koo's character in Sense8 (an absolute goddamn dreamboat…
You could try "Matrimonial Chaos"... (I went in search of other shows featuring him and this one was the first I watched.) It's very good series about marriage and grown-up relationships featuring him, Bae Doo Na, Cha Tae Hyun and his co-star from My Liberation Notes, Lee El!! Though a bit of a cad at the start, his character goes through some major changes. There are some very touching scenes in this show, and his character is very adorable and cute. There's lots of funny bits, too, and the comic timing and physical comedy of Bae Doo Na and Cha Tae Hyun is really something to behold! She is perfect as the clumsy, disorganised, 30-something without a plan. Very entertaining but also thought-provoking show!
Though the dialogue among the cast remains top tier, have to admit the pacing of the plot itself has been losing…
Very good comment, I agree with most of what you said. I find it strange that whenever someone meets somebody they have these incredibly deep, intense conversations revealing some incredible insights into their soul and/ or the nature of romantic relationships... Usually it takes years of therapy to come to that kind of understanding about yourself and here the characters just blithely expose their darkest, strangest character traits to others while eating a meal or going for a walk.... I find that a bit repetitive and strange...
I also worry for Gu's backstory in Seoul... Looks like it's going to be the usual gangster/crook background... I don't understand this obession with these Yakuza-type of gangs in Kdrama. I've seen this plot device so many times already, it isn't original or interesting to me. There could have been so many other cool stories lurking in Mr Gu's background, but I'm afraid the writer will stick to the same the same old tried and tested storyline....
Still, the actors are so phenomenally good, they just sell the story perfectly, so I'm still hooked on this show.
I laughed so hard during the chase sequence .... Sooooo funny.... And then when Chang Hee's friend comes driving on his motor scooter and offers *both* some water....!!!! I howled with laughter..... :-))))
At last, I found my favourite osthttps://youtu.be/CR68ddXL908
Wow! Thanks for the link. I never really noticed the music that much before, I'm far too concentrated on the subtitles and the action on screen but I really really love this song! A perfect pop song-- very summery and mood-lifting....
I pegged him as a star when first I saw him in Designated Survivor: 60 Days but honestly he's exceeded my expectations…
OMG - this is such a good description for the whole show! Brilliant! A male alcoholic Mary Poppins (with emotional baggage) drops in on a family and we get to see how their interactions affect everybody ...
How will I ever get that image out of my mind...? Mr Gu descending from the sky holding on to a huge umbrella.....!????? :-)
You forgot another person who likes Gu - the mom. She has a soft corner for him. 😀
That's true! She is the one who actually said that Gu and her husband must have been partners (business or marriage-wise ???????) in a former life since they get along so very well and that no one ever got along with her husband before.......
Oh my.... just when I thought what is the Yeom family going to do if Mr Gu decides to leave them - we get a glimpse of the future with him back to his old life in Seoul???? Or what were those scenes at the end? I am confused, but pleasantly confused. I have no idea where this story is going to go and I am loving the mystery.
I love how Mr Gu is such an intriguing character and just attracts the affection, interest, friendship of different members of the Yeom family - without him wanting to . He has conquered the hearts of Mi Jung, Chang Hee (sooooo funny in episode 10 when he is basically starting to worship Mr Gu as well!) and their silent father - who has become very close and dependent on him as the perfect working partner....
It's really hard not to compare the dialog with Mr. Mister, since it's the same writer. I read a comment somewhere…
This is a very interesting observation you've made and although this hasn't bothered me so far, now that you've mentioned it, I wonder whether the weird ramblings of the siblings will bother me in future episodes. .. I did find Mi Jung*s comment about the nail on the floor, the frog story and the brother's oversharing of his bowel movements somewhat weird - but also very funny, esp. poor Mr. Gu's reaction, as he is often the chosen victim/audience having to listen to the siblings' verbal diarrhoea... I guess the writer is trying to show that Mi Jung is finally starting to loosen and open up a bit more since she's started hanging out with Mr Gu. She is beginning to just voice random thoughts in her head, too, just like her older sibs who have always gone off on weird rambling stories nobody really wants to listen to from the start. It's such a stark contrast to the extremely taciturn father... Veeeery intriguing...
wow... i know things like these are subjective but i felt TOTALLY different about this episode... i rly saw no…
All these scenes were so predictable and unoriginal. Clichés as old as time itself all neatly rattled off one after the other.... I read fan fiction 30 years ago that was more original than these teenage pregnancy tropes... Sorry... Maybe I have been watching too much television and/or I am too old... ;-) Speaking of predictability: I bet we are going to get a significant time jump into the future sometime soon.... There is this little girl on the promo posters, and so far no children have been featured in any of the episodes. Therefore I bet she is the future child of the two teens and everybody on the island will join together to raise her in one big happy ending... (Sigh...)
OMG - episode 8 was so terrible! How can the writing descend to such depths of cliché and tired old tropes so quickly???? Secret illnesses, terrible accidents, guilt and old wounds that have no surprise element whatsover abound in this episode.
I am sooooo disappointed.
I could not watch most of the scenes with the ditsy young couple and had to fast forward a lot since most of the goings-on were so annoyingly predictable. . I dread to think how many more times we are going to have to watch the pregnant girl suffer pains in her belly, be ill or otherwise utterly pitiful -until the Dads tearfully come around to help the young couple sort out their mess . Oh - and I bet she will be in mortal danger during the birth, so that the Dads can finally change their minds.....
If I have to see one more scene of the adoration of the pregnant belly .... Oh dear, I think I am going to have to stop watching this show.......
This storyline is sooooooooooooooooo trite! Why oh why did the writer go there? When I compare this with the earlier beautiful Eun Hee and Han Soo episode this is in a totally different league... I thought this was going to be an ensemble show with multiple characters' history being displayed. But this focus on the teenagers is too much for my taste. Terrible terrible terrible.
lol the teenage story is realistic too. might not be the case in your country but i can tell you in mine it is…
Ok - interesting to hear that... I guess you are right... that there are cultural differences. I am trying to learn and be more understanding of these differences but some things just provoke a gut reaction in me...
Found Episode 5 disappointing. The teenage relationship and the girl's ambitions, future plans and inner thoughts were very nicely developed at first - but then when the pregnancy got more into focus, the story descended into cliché... For example: The boy/father claiming "it's my baby, too", sudden discovery of pregnancy being much much farther advanced than previously thought, a doctor (!WTF!!!) showing two teenagers who attend hospital to inquire about an abortion ultrasound pictures and making them listen to the heartbeat of the fetus......!!!! This is where the writer lost me.... This was too unrealistic, full of age-old tropes and very clichéd... Sorry... Episode 6 was much better. I'm simply much more interested in the grown-ups world.... The depiction of depression is very impressive. Pretty much spot-on, in my opinion. I love how the character's sadness and the effects of depression are expressed visually, in sudden time shifts (one moment she's getting ready to go out in the bathroom and by the time she's finished she notices that it's already dark outside and evening), her being drenched in water/rain/tears, looking around herself on that jetty and seeing only darkness.... And that interview with the little boy - his answer to the social worker's question about his Mum and how this scene keeps repeating in her mind and affecting her ---- BRILIIANT!!!!!!!!!
how can a simple drama be so relatable with my introvert life ! " there is no single person who I like "
I love the three introvert outcasts who are forever pressured into joining a club at work... Until they 'liberate' themselves... These scenes add some perfect light-hearted comic relief while still being moving and relatable. I've wondered before how introverts cope in a collectivistic society like in SKorea...
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I don't reckon it's that difficult to follow the timeline as I remember a few scenes where the years are clearly shown to the audience.
For example, in the Dad's workshop, when Gu and Yeom Dad are working together during that hothot summer a wall calender dated 2019 is clearly shown a few times.
Then, we already had scenes of Gu back to his job at the club/casino in Seoul and we saw him leaving a New Years' Party for 2022...
So, I think the "summer of Gu" for the Yeom family was 2019, he left them before winter was over bec. Mi Jung repeatedly mentioned she and Gu were going to be "transformed" by the end of winter through their practice of adoring each other-- and we never got to see that... Gu's return then is in 2022 - it's again very cold, he's freezing waiting for Mi Jung in front of the train station, so it could be early 2022.
Question: Is Dad really married again? I must've missed that reference. I thought that lady could just be a house-keeper or hired domestic helper..... (?)
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Now he is trying to visit them again; after breaking off all contact completely , he seems to have arrived at the same point of breakdown again, he seems tired, run down, alcoholic, depressed.
Isn't it utterly selfish to only now think about Mi Jung and the Yeom family again when he might need them again for another recovery??
This was a very moving and realistic depiction of grief in this last episode.
Mi Jung and her father - dry eyed, stoic, but probably screaming on the inside, and the two older siblings - more outwardly emotional, crying their eyes out and overcome with tears at any given time during the day - waiting for the bus or eating breakfast with Dad.....
This resonated very much with me and I found it realistic and beautiful.
It's so sad that the father cannot find any words to communicate his feelings. He is more open and talkative with Mr Gu than with his own family... That breakfast of father and son was devastating, when Chang Hee is suddenly overcome with tears and doesn't dare to cry openly in front of his father, but gets up from the table to sob and cry somewhere else...... This is so sad... I wonder if we will get a few more scenes with Dad that could explain his extremely taciturn character and emotional unavailability... But there's not much time left!!!
Btw- has anyone noticed the jaunty, imaginative camerawork recently? In one scene with Ki Jung the camera is positioned inside a laundry basket (!)and we see her looking and reaching inside it, and in another similar shot, the camera looks up at her from inside some kind of cupboard/refridgerator from which she heaves out some kimchi (? I think..) containers . Those were some unusual, cool shots and camera angles...
He had finally found someone he could work with and was clearly hoping for more - a future with Gu there permanently. He was even teaching him about how to handle customers' orders and how not to be defrauded of his money when they suddenly cancel orders .... Gu's uncomfortable, guilty expression spoke volumes about his intentions to leave soon....
(I went in search of other shows featuring him and this one was the first I watched.)
It's very good series about marriage and grown-up relationships featuring him, Bae Doo Na, Cha Tae Hyun and his co-star from My Liberation Notes, Lee El!!
Though a bit of a cad at the start, his character goes through some major changes.
There are some very touching scenes in this show, and his character is very adorable and cute.
There's lots of funny bits, too, and the comic timing and physical comedy of Bae Doo Na and Cha Tae Hyun is really something to behold! She is perfect as the clumsy, disorganised, 30-something without a plan. Very entertaining but also thought-provoking show!
I find it strange that whenever someone meets somebody they have these incredibly deep, intense conversations revealing some incredible insights into their soul and/ or the nature of romantic relationships...
Usually it takes years of therapy to come to that kind of understanding about yourself and here the characters just blithely expose their darkest, strangest character traits to others while eating a meal or going for a walk....
I find that a bit repetitive and strange...
I also worry for Gu's backstory in Seoul... Looks like it's going to be the usual gangster/crook background... I don't understand this obession with these Yakuza-type of gangs in Kdrama. I've seen this plot device so many times already, it isn't original or interesting to me. There could have been so many other cool stories lurking in Mr Gu's background, but I'm afraid the writer will stick to the same the same old tried and tested storyline....
Still, the actors are so phenomenally good, they just sell the story perfectly, so I'm still hooked on this show.
I laughed so hard during the chase sequence .... Sooooo funny.... And then when Chang Hee's friend comes driving on his motor scooter and offers *both* some water....!!!! I howled with laughter..... :-))))
A perfect pop song-- very summery and mood-lifting....
Brilliant!
A male alcoholic Mary Poppins (with emotional baggage) drops in on a family and we get to see how their interactions affect everybody ...
How will I ever get that image out of my mind...?
Mr Gu descending from the sky holding on to a huge umbrella.....!?????
:-)
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She is the one who actually said that Gu and her husband must have been partners (business or marriage-wise ???????) in a former life since they get along so very well and that no one ever got along with her husband before.......
He really "worshipped" that car!!! (and Mr Gu, who gave it to him)....:-)
I have no idea where this story is going to go and I am loving the mystery.
I love how Mr Gu is such an intriguing character and just attracts the affection, interest, friendship of different members of the Yeom family - without him wanting to . He has conquered the hearts of Mi Jung, Chang Hee (sooooo funny in episode 10 when he is basically starting to worship Mr Gu as well!) and their silent father - who has become very close and dependent on him as the perfect working partner....
I did find Mi Jung*s comment about the nail on the floor, the frog story and the brother's oversharing of his bowel movements somewhat weird - but also very funny, esp. poor Mr. Gu's reaction, as he is often the chosen victim/audience having to listen to the siblings' verbal diarrhoea...
I guess the writer is trying to show that Mi Jung is finally starting to loosen and open up a bit more since she's started hanging out with Mr Gu. She is beginning to just voice random thoughts in her head, too, just like her older sibs who have always gone off on weird rambling stories nobody really wants to listen to from the start.
It's such a stark contrast to the extremely taciturn father...
Veeeery intriguing...
Clichés as old as time itself all neatly rattled off one after the other....
I read fan fiction 30 years ago that was more original than these teenage pregnancy tropes...
Sorry...
Maybe I have been watching too much television and/or I am too old... ;-)
Speaking of predictability:
I bet we are going to get a significant time jump into the future sometime soon....
There is this little girl on the promo posters, and so far no children have been featured in any of the episodes. Therefore I bet she is the future child of the two teens and everybody on the island will join together to raise her in one big happy ending...
(Sigh...)
Secret illnesses, terrible accidents, guilt and old wounds that have no surprise element whatsover abound in this episode.
I am sooooo disappointed.
I could not watch most of the scenes with the ditsy young couple and had to fast forward a lot since most of the goings-on were so annoyingly predictable.
.
I dread to think how many more times we are going to have to watch the pregnant girl suffer pains in her belly, be ill or otherwise utterly pitiful -until the Dads tearfully come around to help the young couple sort out their mess . Oh - and I bet she will be in mortal danger during the birth, so that the Dads can finally change their minds.....
If I have to see one more scene of the adoration of the pregnant belly .... Oh dear, I think I am going to have to stop watching this show.......
This storyline is sooooooooooooooooo trite! Why oh why did the writer go there? When I compare this with the earlier beautiful Eun Hee and Han Soo episode this is in a totally different league... I thought this was going to be an ensemble show with multiple characters' history being displayed. But this focus on the teenagers is too much for my taste.
Terrible terrible terrible.
For example: The boy/father claiming "it's my baby, too", sudden discovery of pregnancy being much much farther advanced than previously thought, a doctor (!WTF!!!) showing two teenagers who attend hospital to inquire about an abortion ultrasound pictures and making them listen to the heartbeat of the fetus......!!!!
This is where the writer lost me.... This was too unrealistic, full of age-old tropes and very clichéd...
Sorry...
Episode 6 was much better. I'm simply much more interested in the grown-ups world.... The depiction of depression is very impressive. Pretty much spot-on, in my opinion. I love how the character's sadness and the effects of depression are expressed visually, in sudden time shifts (one moment she's getting ready to go out in the bathroom and by the time she's finished she notices that it's already dark outside and evening), her being drenched in water/rain/tears, looking around herself on that jetty and seeing only darkness....
And that interview with the little boy - his answer to the social worker's question about his Mum and how this scene keeps repeating in her mind and affecting her ---- BRILIIANT!!!!!!!!!
These scenes add some perfect light-hearted comic relief while still being moving and relatable. I've wondered before how introverts cope in a collectivistic society like in SKorea...