I still think Seokyung's feelings about the fire incident don't make sense... like what do you mean ma'am?Don't…
yes you have all of these resources but how is that meant to amount to literally screaming out, fighting, yelling, communicating in a way you have been used to your whole life. she's an ACTRESS, too!
tell me you wouldn't be frustrated if your partner only spoke a language you did not know, or knew the bare bones of, and you had to use google translate to get them to understand what was bothering you. and do it in a way that doesn't hurt them, and do it without all other apects of our communication that amount for over half of our correspondence. i don't agree with running and hiding and avoiding issues, but is it not so very human? do other leads in abled relationships not do it too? did he also not keep his own emotions and secrets from her? didn't he also fail to communicate?
I don't think that even writers know how SFL was supposed to feel after fire. First she said he didn't do anything…
i have no love for the sfl but she went through a traumatic experience in which she realized the only person who could have helped her literally could not hear her. and she couldn't be angry at him, because it's not his fault, she had a wholeass stalker and she couldn't tell anyone about it, had to essentially gaslight herself.
everything she was explaining was normal trauma response yet you're villainizing her and for what?
i'm sorry but a lot of people here in the comments are acting like freaking saints. you can be angry at moeun and her actions but how do you not have at least a tiny bit of empathy or understanding? "she got angry bc he couldn't hear her stomach growling" are you media literate whatsoever? do you need things spelled out for you? "why was it so hard for her to argue over text/speech to text app exists" did you ever feel frustration at having to express yourself in a second language and lacking the ability to fully convey what you're thinking? even in sign language, the hand movements are a small part of it - it's about your facial expressions, there's a reason people will mouth things, body language accounts for so much of our, ABLED, day to day communication!!!!
for the majority of the show, moeun is almost saintlike with her patience, and understanding, and learning the language, and being almost a shield for him between the hearing world. and when she gets jealous, when she is affected by the misunderstandings and gets angry or frustrated, she feels bad for feeling that way because he is deaf, what are her feelings to someone continuously living in a world against them? she is HUMAN. ofc she can crave CONNECTION SHE IS USED TO. knowing someone is hungry because you hear their stomach growling is something she got from her parents, from her sibling, from her friends, from her other relationships, it's merely one single example of learning to come to terms with a completely different relationships.
many obstacles in communication exist in completely abled relationships now imagine being in one where someone speaks a second language? it's normal to have frustration and exhaustion! she wants to be HEARD and she's frustrated that she has to be able to put everything into words he'll have to READ. so much nuance gets lost, so much of what she may want to say. AND IT'S NOT HIS FAULT. IT'S NOT HERS EITHER. IT'S NO ONE'S. but it's still frustrating!!!
everyone here feels so superior as if they'd do any better in their relationship, or in one like this. we watch these shows to get a look into people's live yet everyone's lacking empathy for a certain half of the leads. it's sad.
i really didn't know people were so negative about this show, i'm actually loving it - one of my favorites this year and might be one of my favorites in this genre. i love the characters and their dynamic, i love the mystery, i love it all!
so you're telling me instead of getting the brother together with his already perfect secretary they had her leave off-screen and introduced him a new secretary??? omg this got me so angry I WANTED THEM TO KISS DAMMIT
This is my firs K-drama and I fell in love with it. Everything was just perfect. I would be happy if you could…
reborn rich - the male lead is reborn as the youngest son of the wealthy family that caused his death. he remembers his past life and spends his life taking the perfect revenge. the ending was bit divisive, but i personally loved it! however, this one is much more focused on the male lead and his revenge than romance. but if you watch it and like it you might enjoy dramas like vincenzo, big mouth, flower of evil.
my perfect stranger - time travel drama, the leads go back in time to solve a murder. great mystery with some romance.
twinkling watermelon - a coda teenager travels back in time and connects with his father who he's surprised to find out still has his hearing as a teen. together, they start a band. very touching!
see you in my 19th life - the female lead remembers her past lives and decides to reconnect with her loved ones. this one was really good with a beautiful love story!
happiness - the leads have known each other since highschool and enter a contract marriage but this one has the twist that it's about zombies. so if that might be your cup of tea, i recommend it!
crazy love - boss/secretary, fake engagement, very funny and one of my favorites!
love in contract - the female lead made a business out of contractual marriages, but she ends up falling for a client. not park minyoung's best, but she's still the queen of romcoms to me and i enjoyed this one!
something about 1% - a very classic style kdrama, contract engagement, the lead is forced to marry the female lead in order to inherit. they fall in love.
as a beginner, you might enjoy dramas like what's wrong with secretary kim?, yumi's cells or a business proposal. now i do have some i haven't seen yet but they feature contract marriages: because this is my first life, her private life, crash landing on you (fake engagement i believe)
i agree with you on the second thing, but to add my two cents on the first is that i believe she felt more betrayed…
again, i think it's because he knew about both of them thus had more information, so i understand she could feel betrayed. another important bit of information she finds out at the same time is that he claims he's at fault for her death, that's a whole other shock i believe, and it's only natural to feel torn. because of her traumatic experiences lead her to believe he might just feel a sense of pity and obligation, and i think that breaks her heart. it's when she talks to her mother that she realises she can and deserves to be loved!
This was a near perfect drama. They gave us the good, the bad, and the ugly and for 98% of the drama, they did…
i agree with you on the second thing, but to add my two cents on the first is that i believe she felt more betrayed because HE knew SHE went back in time yet STILL didn't tell her. meanwhile, she only finds out about him at that moment. especially with how hard it was for her to trust people, i could understand her reaction. i really think it would have played out differently had they BOTH not known about the other and found out at the same time.
you say you might have missed when she "told him" but it's shown in the flashback when she's drunk in his hotel room: she says she had died, and she says she saw her life flash before her eyes. she also has information from the future and also quite suddenly wants to take down her family. ALSO, in a previous episode he goes through her drawings and sees images of the car accident. even if he didn't know that first night, he definitely knew then!
oh this drama is absolute PERFECTION. the story, the twists, the characters and the romance. such incredible, touching performances. all the best tropes wrapped into one solid experience. i was losing my mind, freaking out and falling in love with the leads. everyone has to watch this!!
All i think about wen the abusive dad comes on the screen is tht, they (i.e the kids) can easily take him down.…
that's the thing with a lot of media though, especially asian media i've noticed. even if your story features a corrupt law or police system, you'll still have the trusted copaganda working to showcase how you should trust and believe in the system anyways. 12 episodes with an abusive cop who used his connections and power, who was respected in the community so much they'd lead him to his runaway son he abused without a second thought, 12 episodes where we're told over and over again how they had to go to these lengths because nothing else would have been enough, yet in the end - we get the good prosecutor! we get the oh good thing the law's changed now! things are DIFFERENT! like they'll have corrupt cops then have the good leads still trust cops. it's hilarious.
Hey, can somebody tell me if there is any bad scenes with love triangle for somebody like me who hates love triangles…
absolutely none! i wouldn't even call this a love triangle necessarily, it's only really played up when the identity of the male leads (the question of which one could be kiho) is up in the air. but once that is resolved, it's very clearly always mokha/kiho and nothing else is entertained. the other brother does fall for her, however he never confesses, there aren't really any scenes to make you root for them romantically, she always regards him as a brother. definitely no angst or frustration.
Maybe this drama was just too short and doing too much because I genuinely think this had potential to be great…
this!! i really felt they just left a lot of characters and stories dangling, and the main story with RJ entertainment ended up being so pointless especially when it took up so much time.
not really. the other brother does fall for her but nothing ever comes of it, there's never angst there or a competition. it's always mokha and kiho, very clearly.
should have just ended the show with one season tbh
idk if you finished ep17 by now but imo they could have wrapped it up and instead chose to have characters go from taking three steps forward to suddenly jumping a MILE back just to create fodder for s2 and i am absolutely disappointed. s2 seems to bring only more of the same and unless we get some major movements with gitak and mdh actually causing damage and some of those vile people finally getting their dues or a twist the size of dami being alive i'm afraid it will be very very boring and useless.
should have just ended the show with one season tbh
i agree! like maybe a 20ish ep season at the most... like is there material? yeah i could see stuff they kinda just.. dropped but imo a lot of the major things are done. not to mention unless they bring back some of the good players or have dami be alive who are we to really root for?
Am i the only one who roots for Mone & MDH? idk maybe bcs im someone who usually only watches romance genre (so…
i mean i personally have not seen any development with her? just bc she seems attached to her daughter doesn't make up anything for me. for once in 16 episodes she shows a smidge of remorse for her mother but i can't be sold a romance with someone who is quite literally ready to die for his mother and sibling.
i get that she's meant to be evil what i'm saying is she has no tie with mdh other than her being pretty. even helping him, she did it for her own interests. even with k, she didn't care about taking him down when she believed she could control him/remain safe from him. maybe they could have shown her as a character you could root for if they actually developed her family more or worked on her ptsd/trauma/seeming regret. but still every step of the way even when she was famous and when she could have been better, she wasn't. she kept being evil. so i can't see her with mdh who chooses to be good.
imo the only character i didn't despise out of the horrendous bunch is yjm. he had consistancy about madame no and it showed a sense of morality underneath. when she confessed she did have feelings, it was believable.
tell me you wouldn't be frustrated if your partner only spoke a language you did not know, or knew the bare bones of, and you had to use google translate to get them to understand what was bothering you. and do it in a way that doesn't hurt them, and do it without all other apects of our communication that amount for over half of our correspondence. i don't agree with running and hiding and avoiding issues, but is it not so very human? do other leads in abled relationships not do it too? did he also not keep his own emotions and secrets from her? didn't he also fail to communicate?
everything she was explaining was normal trauma response yet you're villainizing her and for what?
for the majority of the show, moeun is almost saintlike with her patience, and understanding, and learning the language, and being almost a shield for him between the hearing world. and when she gets jealous, when she is affected by the misunderstandings and gets angry or frustrated, she feels bad for feeling that way because he is deaf, what are her feelings to someone continuously living in a world against them? she is HUMAN. ofc she can crave CONNECTION SHE IS USED TO. knowing someone is hungry because you hear their stomach growling is something she got from her parents, from her sibling, from her friends, from her other relationships, it's merely one single example of learning to come to terms with a completely different relationships.
many obstacles in communication exist in completely abled relationships now imagine being in one where someone speaks a second language? it's normal to have frustration and exhaustion! she wants to be HEARD and she's frustrated that she has to be able to put everything into words he'll have to READ. so much nuance gets lost, so much of what she may want to say. AND IT'S NOT HIS FAULT. IT'S NOT HERS EITHER. IT'S NO ONE'S. but it's still frustrating!!!
everyone here feels so superior as if they'd do any better in their relationship, or in one like this. we watch these shows to get a look into people's live yet everyone's lacking empathy for a certain half of the leads. it's sad.
my perfect stranger - time travel drama, the leads go back in time to solve a murder. great mystery with some romance.
twinkling watermelon - a coda teenager travels back in time and connects with his father who he's surprised to find out still has his hearing as a teen. together, they start a band. very touching!
see you in my 19th life - the female lead remembers her past lives and decides to reconnect with her loved ones. this one was really good with a beautiful love story!
happiness - the leads have known each other since highschool and enter a contract marriage but this one has the twist that it's about zombies. so if that might be your cup of tea, i recommend it!
crazy love - boss/secretary, fake engagement, very funny and one of my favorites!
love in contract - the female lead made a business out of contractual marriages, but she ends up falling for a client. not park minyoung's best, but she's still the queen of romcoms to me and i enjoyed this one!
something about 1% - a very classic style kdrama, contract engagement, the lead is forced to marry the female lead in order to inherit. they fall in love.
as a beginner, you might enjoy dramas like what's wrong with secretary kim?, yumi's cells or a business proposal. now i do have some i haven't seen yet but they feature contract marriages: because this is my first life, her private life, crash landing on you (fake engagement i believe)
you say you might have missed when she "told him" but it's shown in the flashback when she's drunk in his hotel room: she says she had died, and she says she saw her life flash before her eyes. she also has information from the future and also quite suddenly wants to take down her family. ALSO, in a previous episode he goes through her drawings and sees images of the car accident. even if he didn't know that first night, he definitely knew then!
i get that she's meant to be evil what i'm saying is she has no tie with mdh other than her being pretty. even helping him, she did it for her own interests. even with k, she didn't care about taking him down when she believed she could control him/remain safe from him. maybe they could have shown her as a character you could root for if they actually developed her family more or worked on her ptsd/trauma/seeming regret. but still every step of the way even when she was famous and when she could have been better, she wasn't. she kept being evil. so i can't see her with mdh who chooses to be good.
imo the only character i didn't despise out of the horrendous bunch is yjm. he had consistancy about madame no and it showed a sense of morality underneath. when she confessed she did have feelings, it was believable.