katgotyourtongue

so why do you have empathy for him but not her?

it may sound ridiculous but the meaning behind it is what's important. it's ridiculous to you and me, i presume we are both of fine hearing and abled in that aspect. of course it's ridiculous to us! we hear someone sigh and we're able to ask if they're frustrated, we hear them yelp in pain, we hear them laugh etc. we get to be active in their lives. he unfortunately has moments where he cannot be active in her life. she has to purposefully say: i am in pain. i am hungry. i hurt myself. i found something funny. it's difficult to enter any new relationship let alone one with a different obstacle. it's not about her stomach growling and him not knowing she's hungry. it's about them being inherently torn apart by their circumstances and having to actively work against them. i can choose just now to not write in english. because i'm tired and i don't feel like translating my thoughts and i can never say them just right. but you will not understand me if i choose to not speak in english. now, i don't care about you as a random person online, but if i were in a romantic relationship with you, it would be different and this feeling would be frustrating and it would be an active divide. that was the point.

finally someone with a brain oh god

i honestly don't understand why you decided to watch until ep16 and come into this comment section when you have such inherent issues with the show lmao, go watch one that teaches you real love idk

yes you have all of these resources but how is that meant to amount to literally screaming out, fighting, yelling, communicating in a way you have been used to your whole life. she's an ACTRESS, too!

tell me you wouldn't be frustrated if your partner only spoke a language you did not know, or knew the bare bones of, and you had to use google translate to get them to understand what was bothering you. and do it in a way that doesn't hurt them, and do it without all other apects of our communication that amount for over half of our correspondence. i don't agree with running and hiding and avoiding issues, but is it not so very human? do other leads in abled relationships not do it too? did he also not keep his own emotions and secrets from her? didn't he also fail to communicate?

i have no love for the sfl but she went through a traumatic experience in which she realized the only person who could have helped her literally could not hear her. and she couldn't be angry at him, because it's not his fault, she had a wholeass stalker and she couldn't tell anyone about it, had to essentially gaslight herself.

everything she was explaining was normal trauma response yet you're villainizing her and for what?

please take one minute to understand the point there.

it's not ridiculous at all

i'm sorry but a lot of people here in the comments are acting like freaking saints. you can be angry at moeun and her actions but how do you not have at least a tiny bit of empathy or understanding? "she got angry bc he couldn't hear her stomach growling" are you media literate whatsoever? do you need things spelled out for you? "why was it so hard for her to argue over text/speech to text app exists" did you ever feel frustration at having to express yourself in a second language and lacking the ability to fully convey what you're thinking? even in sign language, the hand movements are a small part of it - it's about your facial expressions, there's a reason people will mouth things, body language accounts for so much of our, ABLED, day to day communication!!!!

for the majority of the show, moeun is almost saintlike with her patience, and understanding, and learning the language, and being almost a shield for him between the hearing world. and when she gets jealous, when she is affected by the misunderstandings and gets angry or frustrated, she feels bad for feeling that way because he is deaf, what are her feelings to someone continuously living in a world against them? she is HUMAN. ofc she can crave CONNECTION SHE IS USED TO. knowing someone is hungry because you hear their stomach growling is something she got from her parents, from her sibling, from her friends, from her other relationships, it's merely one single example of learning to come to terms with a completely different relationships.

many obstacles in communication exist in completely abled relationships now imagine being in one where someone speaks a second language? it's normal to have frustration and exhaustion! she wants to be HEARD and she's frustrated that she has to be able to put everything into words he'll have to READ. so much nuance gets lost, so much of what she may want to say. AND IT'S NOT HIS FAULT. IT'S NOT HERS EITHER. IT'S NO ONE'S. but it's still frustrating!!!

everyone here feels so superior as if they'd do any better in their relationship, or in one like this. we watch these shows to get a look into people's live yet everyone's lacking empathy for a certain half of the leads. it's sad.

i really didn't know people were so negative about this show, i'm actually loving it - one of my favorites this year and might be one of my favorites in this genre. i love the characters and their dynamic, i love the mystery, i love it all!

so you're telling me instead of getting the brother together with his already perfect secretary they had her leave off-screen and introduced him a new secretary??? omg this got me so angry I WANTED THEM TO KISS DAMMIT

reborn rich - the male lead is reborn as the youngest son of the wealthy family that caused his death. he remembers his past life and spends his life taking the perfect revenge. the ending was bit divisive, but i personally loved it! however, this one is much more focused on the male lead and his revenge than romance. but if you watch it and like it you might enjoy dramas like vincenzo, big mouth, flower of evil.

my perfect stranger - time travel drama, the leads go back in time to solve a murder. great mystery with some romance.

twinkling watermelon - a coda teenager travels back in time and connects with his father who he's surprised to find out still has his hearing as a teen. together, they start a band. very touching!

see you in my 19th life - the female lead remembers her past lives and decides to reconnect with her loved ones. this one was really good with a beautiful love story!

happiness - the leads have known each other since highschool and enter a contract marriage but this one has the twist that it's about zombies. so if that might be your cup of tea, i recommend it!

crazy love - boss/secretary, fake engagement, very funny and one of my favorites!

love in contract - the female lead made a business out of contractual marriages, but she ends up falling for a client. not park minyoung's best, but she's still the queen of romcoms to me and i enjoyed this one!

something about 1% - a very classic style kdrama, contract engagement, the lead is forced to marry the female lead in order to inherit. they fall in love.

as a beginner, you might enjoy dramas like what's wrong with secretary kim?, yumi's cells or a business proposal. now i do have some i haven't seen yet but they feature contract marriages: because this is my first life, her private life, crash landing on you (fake engagement i believe)

again, i think it's because he knew about both of them thus had more information, so i understand she could feel betrayed. another important bit of information she finds out at the same time is that he claims he's at fault for her death, that's a whole other shock i believe, and it's only natural to feel torn. because of her traumatic experiences lead her to believe he might just feel a sense of pity and obligation, and i think that breaks her heart. it's when she talks to her mother that she realises she can and deserves to be loved!

i agree with you on the second thing, but to add my two cents on the first is that i believe she felt more betrayed because HE knew SHE went back in time yet STILL didn't tell her. meanwhile, she only finds out about him at that moment. especially with how hard it was for her to trust people, i could understand her reaction. i really think it would have played out differently had they BOTH not known about the other and found out at the same time.

you say you might have missed when she "told him" but it's shown in the flashback when she's drunk in his hotel room: she says she had died, and she says she saw her life flash before her eyes. she also has information from the future and also quite suddenly wants to take down her family. ALSO, in a previous episode he goes through her drawings and sees images of the car accident. even if he didn't know that first night, he definitely knew then!

oh this drama is absolute PERFECTION. the story, the twists, the characters and the romance. such incredible, touching performances. all the best tropes wrapped into one solid experience. i was losing my mind, freaking out and falling in love with the leads. everyone has to watch this!!

that's the thing with a lot of media though, especially asian media i've noticed. even if your story features a corrupt law or police system, you'll still have the trusted copaganda working to showcase how you should trust and believe in the system anyways. 12 episodes with an abusive cop who used his connections and power, who was respected in the community so much they'd lead him to his runaway son he abused without a second thought, 12 episodes where we're told over and over again how they had to go to these lengths because nothing else would have been enough, yet in the end - we get the good prosecutor! we get the oh good thing the law's changed now! things are DIFFERENT! like they'll have corrupt cops then have the good leads still trust cops. it's hilarious.

absolutely none! i wouldn't even call this a love triangle necessarily, it's only really played up when the identity of the male leads (the question of which one could be kiho) is up in the air. but once that is resolved, it's very clearly always mokha/kiho and nothing else is entertained. the other brother does fall for her, however he never confesses, there aren't really any scenes to make you root for them romantically, she always regards him as a brother. definitely no angst or frustration.

this!! i really felt they just left a lot of characters and stories dangling, and the main story with RJ entertainment ended up being so pointless especially when it took up so much time.

not really. the other brother does fall for her but nothing ever comes of it, there's never angst there or a competition. it's always mokha and kiho, very clearly.

i'm still so angry about it but sadly it's a kdrama staple. the only downside of the drama!