Absolutely love the series but can someone help me understand what was Mhok's mistake that they were all taking…
they don't say it bluntly so i will: mhok's lying was rooted in ableism. and that was what day couldn't forgive, because what if they're back together and he resorts to these ableist prejudices once again. yes, it was out of good intentions, but it was still negative. as he says, he fell into the thinking that day NEEDED him in order to have a full, happy life and that he essentially couldn't be without mhok - which is rooted in ableism, bc these would not have been his reasons if day could see. it wasn't "i don't want to leave you bc i love you" it was actually "i don't want to leave you bc you're blind".
imo, the ending cheapens this whole thing a bit, but that was the mistake
a truly perfect show except i am saddened that once again another story with disability at its center has to conclude by "magically fixing" the disability. i worried this would happen and thought they had pleasantly surprised me and had decided against this trope, only to be proven right in the end. i just feel like it's so harmful to send this message that true happiness is only achieved when you're back to living without a disability. seeing comments like "omg day can FINALLY see again" is actually disheartening. they did try to diffuse this by having him have a happy, fulfilled life as a person with a disability in the three years he was living blind, but it feels cheapened by the ending. luckily, they had shown us happy blind characters, so the damage isn't distressing, i did appreciate many qualities the show brought and how it handled this subject - but this element of the ending is disheartening. you can be blind AND get your fairytale ending!
Thank you! The amount of people in these comments lacking media literacy and basic empathy is concerning. Plus,…
a lot of misogyny and a lot of ableism for sure: she needs to be villainized but he needs to be babied. i'd like those people to ask themselves why? at the end of the day, moeun wasn't responding to nothing...
yes you have all of these resources but how is that meant to amount to literally screaming out, fighting, yelling,…
tbh i find it to be a serious issue of his bc we're talking about a man who went away to seclude himself for years. he has a deep failure of communication bc he has never HAD to communicate these things to anyone who didn't already know them. he built up walls around himself, with two friends and his students and made a somewhat solid life out of it but that lack of communication (not just an obstacle but a genuine LACK on his side) contributed to a lot of his issues with moeun. and i think if we give her some grace we find that she continuously gave him time and chances to fix that and he didn't.
i also hate this standard third act break-up and time skip but here i do think she needed to grow and mature to a secure space of firmly deciding what was enough for her in a relationship instead of constantly comparing it to an abled one (not necessarily her fault just the fault of societal norms and what we're used to imo) and he needed to push himself out of his shell and actually force himself to the states, to do lectures to HEARING students, to put himself out there as worthy of being heard and communicating. so i understood its purpose here although i felt like they could have still achieved all those plot points without the cliches.
Great post. Thanks a lot). Real world is not black&white. And no one is a saint. We all come with good and bad…
i get where you're coming from, but i just think it's "normal" to make mistakes and want to do better - that's all our life is anyways, regardless of whether or not you believe in divine reward/punishment at the end of the road. the point is to extend grace and compassion as we have all been in places to need it ourselves.
I did! I wrote about it little below. It's ridiculous. Isn't it?
it may sound ridiculous but the meaning behind it is what's important. it's ridiculous to you and me, i presume we are both of fine hearing and abled in that aspect. of course it's ridiculous to us! we hear someone sigh and we're able to ask if they're frustrated, we hear them yelp in pain, we hear them laugh etc. we get to be active in their lives. he unfortunately has moments where he cannot be active in her life. she has to purposefully say: i am in pain. i am hungry. i hurt myself. i found something funny. it's difficult to enter any new relationship let alone one with a different obstacle. it's not about her stomach growling and him not knowing she's hungry. it's about them being inherently torn apart by their circumstances and having to actively work against them. i can choose just now to not write in english. because i'm tired and i don't feel like translating my thoughts and i can never say them just right. but you will not understand me if i choose to not speak in english. now, i don't care about you as a random person online, but if i were in a romantic relationship with you, it would be different and this feeling would be frustrating and it would be an active divide. that was the point.
Yeah, but you know, in the real life if someone tells you, I will love you until I hate you, which one day may…
i honestly don't understand why you decided to watch until ep16 and come into this comment section when you have such inherent issues with the show lmao, go watch one that teaches you real love idk
I still think Seokyung's feelings about the fire incident don't make sense... like what do you mean ma'am?Don't…
yes you have all of these resources but how is that meant to amount to literally screaming out, fighting, yelling, communicating in a way you have been used to your whole life. she's an ACTRESS, too!
tell me you wouldn't be frustrated if your partner only spoke a language you did not know, or knew the bare bones of, and you had to use google translate to get them to understand what was bothering you. and do it in a way that doesn't hurt them, and do it without all other apects of our communication that amount for over half of our correspondence. i don't agree with running and hiding and avoiding issues, but is it not so very human? do other leads in abled relationships not do it too? did he also not keep his own emotions and secrets from her? didn't he also fail to communicate?
I don't think that even writers know how SFL was supposed to feel after fire. First she said he didn't do anything…
i have no love for the sfl but she went through a traumatic experience in which she realized the only person who could have helped her literally could not hear her. and she couldn't be angry at him, because it's not his fault, she had a wholeass stalker and she couldn't tell anyone about it, had to essentially gaslight herself.
everything she was explaining was normal trauma response yet you're villainizing her and for what?
i'm sorry but a lot of people here in the comments are acting like freaking saints. you can be angry at moeun and her actions but how do you not have at least a tiny bit of empathy or understanding? "she got angry bc he couldn't hear her stomach growling" are you media literate whatsoever? do you need things spelled out for you? "why was it so hard for her to argue over text/speech to text app exists" did you ever feel frustration at having to express yourself in a second language and lacking the ability to fully convey what you're thinking? even in sign language, the hand movements are a small part of it - it's about your facial expressions, there's a reason people will mouth things, body language accounts for so much of our, ABLED, day to day communication!!!!
for the majority of the show, moeun is almost saintlike with her patience, and understanding, and learning the language, and being almost a shield for him between the hearing world. and when she gets jealous, when she is affected by the misunderstandings and gets angry or frustrated, she feels bad for feeling that way because he is deaf, what are her feelings to someone continuously living in a world against them? she is HUMAN. ofc she can crave CONNECTION SHE IS USED TO. knowing someone is hungry because you hear their stomach growling is something she got from her parents, from her sibling, from her friends, from her other relationships, it's merely one single example of learning to come to terms with a completely different relationships.
many obstacles in communication exist in completely abled relationships now imagine being in one where someone speaks a second language? it's normal to have frustration and exhaustion! she wants to be HEARD and she's frustrated that she has to be able to put everything into words he'll have to READ. so much nuance gets lost, so much of what she may want to say. AND IT'S NOT HIS FAULT. IT'S NOT HERS EITHER. IT'S NO ONE'S. but it's still frustrating!!!
everyone here feels so superior as if they'd do any better in their relationship, or in one like this. we watch these shows to get a look into people's live yet everyone's lacking empathy for a certain half of the leads. it's sad.
imo, the ending cheapens this whole thing a bit, but that was the mistake
i also hate this standard third act break-up and time skip but here i do think she needed to grow and mature to a secure space of firmly deciding what was enough for her in a relationship instead of constantly comparing it to an abled one (not necessarily her fault just the fault of societal norms and what we're used to imo) and he needed to push himself out of his shell and actually force himself to the states, to do lectures to HEARING students, to put himself out there as worthy of being heard and communicating. so i understood its purpose here although i felt like they could have still achieved all those plot points without the cliches.
tell me you wouldn't be frustrated if your partner only spoke a language you did not know, or knew the bare bones of, and you had to use google translate to get them to understand what was bothering you. and do it in a way that doesn't hurt them, and do it without all other apects of our communication that amount for over half of our correspondence. i don't agree with running and hiding and avoiding issues, but is it not so very human? do other leads in abled relationships not do it too? did he also not keep his own emotions and secrets from her? didn't he also fail to communicate?
everything she was explaining was normal trauma response yet you're villainizing her and for what?
for the majority of the show, moeun is almost saintlike with her patience, and understanding, and learning the language, and being almost a shield for him between the hearing world. and when she gets jealous, when she is affected by the misunderstandings and gets angry or frustrated, she feels bad for feeling that way because he is deaf, what are her feelings to someone continuously living in a world against them? she is HUMAN. ofc she can crave CONNECTION SHE IS USED TO. knowing someone is hungry because you hear their stomach growling is something she got from her parents, from her sibling, from her friends, from her other relationships, it's merely one single example of learning to come to terms with a completely different relationships.
many obstacles in communication exist in completely abled relationships now imagine being in one where someone speaks a second language? it's normal to have frustration and exhaustion! she wants to be HEARD and she's frustrated that she has to be able to put everything into words he'll have to READ. so much nuance gets lost, so much of what she may want to say. AND IT'S NOT HIS FAULT. IT'S NOT HERS EITHER. IT'S NO ONE'S. but it's still frustrating!!!
everyone here feels so superior as if they'd do any better in their relationship, or in one like this. we watch these shows to get a look into people's live yet everyone's lacking empathy for a certain half of the leads. it's sad.