I really enjoyed this movie! It may be confusing if you aren't familiar with otaku culture and terminology. The singing numbers were a bit much, but overall, this movie was very funny and enjoyable! I didn't watch the anime because I'd rather watch a 2-hour movie than an entire anime series. The anime doesn't have Yamazaki Kento either! Takahata Mitsuki was great too and played her role very well. Don't be surprised if a movie or drama that is adapted from a drama is over the top.
I was really hoping this would be a good wlw drama. They are so rare. Meanwhile, there is always a new bl drama or movie (and mostly straight male actors becoming incredibly popular for starring in these roles). This drama was more about friendship and I agree with others when they say that the gl/lgbtq tag is misleading. Since some of the things Kairi said and did were so bizarre, I knew pretty early on that this drama would be a joke. There aren't that many episodes though so it wasn't a big deal to finish. Also, Yuri could've been bisexual. They never really explored that possibility.
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I said the ending was satisfying because it had a powerful message (choose yourself over a man) and it was great to see a woman opening up her own business involving something she was passionate about. I was also very relieved to see that they broke up with each other.
Your level of anger at me and a drama that is now 3 years old is embarrassing and I'm worried about your mental state. It is not normal to be so irate at a fictional piece of work. Again, if dramas like these make you feel triggered, then you should try to avoid them altogether. By the way, I recommend you read some books (any topic is fine) if you want to improve your grammar and spelling.
You're clearly much younger than me. I hope you grow up to be a better person than this and that you will find something that makes you happy :)
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I tried to explain myself as best as I can. Never did I condone, support, or ship their relationship. I am 22 years old, by the way, and if your grammar is any indication, you must be very very young and this drama is simply not for you. Leave it at that and go give your energy to something that you actually enjoy.
What do you gain by trying to blow me up? You won't change my mind. I watched the drama and made my initial comment over half a year ago. I've moved on and so should you. Again, this happens in real life, unfortunately, but this drama is fiction. You being angry at a fictional piece of work doesn't mean anything. Go volunteer somewhere or donate money if you want to help victims of abuse.
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I am in no way condoning pedophilia. Wako was not a pedophile and you are misusing the term. She did not constantly pursue underage boys and she liked Iko before she knew his age. A pedophile would like the minor BECAUSE of their age. This was an immoral relationship, that is a fact. I just found it fascinating to see the power imbalance between Iko and Wako. Although he is much younger, Iko controlled their relationship because he is a male. The pedophile/older person is typically the one that controls the relationship and manipulates the minor. This is not the case in this drama. That's one of the many things that make it interesting.
Why are you so triggered? I know these things, unfortunately, happen in real life, but it's just a drama, you know? If these kinds of sensitive things trigger you, then why did you watch this drama and read the comments on this page? You must have read the premise of this drama before you watched it. If you want a drama without a complex dynamic as this one has, then you should something lighter. Yes, there are plenty of dramas that are interesting and don't involve an outrageous age gap. Please go watch those.
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I'm glad we can agree! This drama conjured up many feelings in me as well and I'm happy with the different nuances involved that made this drama unique. It is indeed uncomfortable to watch such a troubling age gap relationship develop, but it was needed so the drama would be more interesting and unpredictable.
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I can see why you would think it is unnecessary for Iko's character to be underaged but I think think the story would have been drastically different if he were older. If they met while he was in college, I think he would have dropped out and found a job so he could support her. Since he wanted her to stay at home, he wouldn't have let her open her own business. They also would have probably gotten married and had kids. It would have been pretty hard for her to start her own business after she had children even if they broke up/got divorced. The whole point of the age gap just highlights how the two of them are alarmingly incompatible and overall, makes the drama more interesting to watch.
Also on your point about the lack of an investigation. I initially thought that they were going to arrest her, especially after Iko's school friend found out about their relationship. If they had arrested her, the story would have been pretty predictable after that. The fact that the story wasn't written that way makes it unique and made me more interested to see how things would play out. Also, I think it's more realistic that their relationship wasn't investigated by the police. Adults who engage in inappropriate relationships with minors usually go unpunished, unfortunately.
I personally saw a lot of growth in Wako. I think her growth was very subtle and realistic.
I really enjoyed how both Rina and Junpei each had their own spouses and children. Adding kids to affair stories always makes the affair more complex and consequential.
I can see why Azu stayed with Junpei. They had already built something together and they had Nanaka. It can be such a hassle to start over with someone new if they would've gotten divorced.
It really hurt to see Nanaka constantly asking where her dad was. I would feel guilty and pressured to forgive Junpei too for Nanaka's sake if I was Azu.
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I'm sorry you had to experience that horrible relationship. I hope you are in a more positive space now :)
This is how I interpreted the ending: They broke up, Saki went back to her hometown and had to rebuild herself, Nagata was unaffected by her leaving and used their entire relationship as inspiration for his play. The ending with Saki just sitting there was her realizing that he used her, from start to finish.
Nagata is a true parasite. He came into Saki's life and swallowed her whole. She should've known he was trash when he asked her out and said he wouldn't pay. I would've kept walking. It's really easy to avoid types like Nagata. They make it clear the kind of people they are. It was really pathetic of Saki to stay in a relationship with him for so long. I rolled my eyes so hard when he gave her that basic ass wallet for her birthday and she cried. All of that emotion for minimal effort? I don't think so. This was such a frustrating movie to watch. The realism was great though.
This drama was beautiful and engaging from start to finish. Realism at its best. It is even better after a second viewing. I love how it is so incredibly detailed, every inch of this drama serves a purpose. The script, acting, casting, and cinematography are impeccable. These are my thoughts:
1. I love how this drama is presented as a drama about an age gap relationship, but I interpreted it as a journey of self-discovery for Wako. She initially did not know what she wanted for her future and was going along with what was expected of her (kids and marriage). She then realized through her relationships with Fu, Iko and the potential rekindling of romance with Tsuchiya, that none of them could offer something that she truly wanted.
2. I find it interesting that both Iko and Tsuchiya both offered Wako the same kind of life, a life that she initially thought she wanted. Quit your job, have my babies, wait on me to come home everyday, and let me take care of you. Their dreams were incredibly selfish and they did not consider Wako's dreams. As soon as Wako comprehended the true meaning of the life Iko and Tsuchiya had planned, she made the decision for herself to walk away from the goal of marriage and focus on a goal that she actually wanted. This was beautifully captured by the shot of her leaving her meeting with Tsuchiya as the young couple was in the background were taking wedding photos and Wako was in foreground, walking away from both marriage and Tsuchiya.
Fu is different however. Fu did not respect Wako and just liked how she fit into his life. and didn't want to carry too much of her weight (he wanted her to get a rEaL job). He's not necessarily a bad guy, he just did not know what he wanted, similar to Wako. In the end, they probably were not a good match for one another.
3. The point of Iko being so young was very necessary. Because he was still in high school (first year/10th grader), Wako realized she really was ruining his life and robbing him of normalcy. This was solidified when she sensed things were going south for him at school when he was adamant about dropping out. Had he been 21 or something, her needing to break up with him would not be so imperative because he would have been more independent and less malleable. They could have gotten married if he wasn't in high school. The jarring age gap helps Wako and Iko, as well as the audience, realize that they were simply not meant for each other and makes their relationship more consequential if they do not end things.
4. I also found the power imbalance within Iko and Wako's relationship very interesting. Society (pretty much all over the world tbh) decided that it is the man's place to have more power over "his" woman. Iko, although much younger than Wako, knew this and actively sought that kind of power over a woman twice his age. For example, Iko demanded sex from her when he wanted, he wanted to know her whereabouts, who she was with, and forbade her to speak to other men. It must have made Wako extremely uncomfortable to be dominated by a BOY. That had to have hurt her ego. If this were an older man younger woman dynamic, the same power balance would be at play. Only instead of ending their inappropriate relationship like Wako did, an older man would have manipulated his younger girlfriend into dropping out of high school, gotten her pregnant ASAP and kept her at home and under his total control (and threw her away when he got tired of her). Wako ended up doing the right thing, we can at least give her that.
5. I got to thinking when Sasaki mentioned to Iko what if Wako got pregnant when they were alone together in the church. Even though Iko is younger and Wako older, because Wako is a woman and can get pregnant, she is still more vulnerable in this relationship and has more to lose than him. The same could be said if this were a older man younger woman relationship. Men can ALWAYS walk away from risky relationships and be fine. The woman will be stuck with the baby and will be shat on by society for being a single mom and be seen as "used" goods and unworthy of a high quality man (if she wants one).
6. Finally what stood out to me was Iko's descent from sweet, innocent, and slightly awkward to obsessive and emotionally abusive. Kamio Fuju-san portrayed Iko beautifully. Everything was in his eyes. I honestly thought when he went to Wako's workplace after she quit, that he was going to shoot up the place. That scene was especially chilling.
This drama really stands out to me because it was unpredictable, thoroughly engaging and the ending was soooo emotionally satisfying (NEVER CHOOSE A MAN OFFERING YOU NOTHING, ALWAYS CHOOSE YOURSELF). I hope to find more dramas, no matter what country it is made in, that take themselves seriously as did this work of art. 10's across the board. Sorry for rambling and I know this is not that serious but, this drama really sparked something in me and my mind was racing as I watched it.
Your level of anger at me and a drama that is now 3 years old is embarrassing and I'm worried about your mental state. It is not normal to be so irate at a fictional piece of work. Again, if dramas like these make you feel triggered, then you should try to avoid them altogether. By the way, I recommend you read some books (any topic is fine) if you want to improve your grammar and spelling.
You're clearly much younger than me. I hope you grow up to be a better person than this and that you will find something that makes you happy :)
What do you gain by trying to blow me up? You won't change my mind. I watched the drama and made my initial comment over half a year ago. I've moved on and so should you. Again, this happens in real life, unfortunately, but this drama is fiction. You being angry at a fictional piece of work doesn't mean anything. Go volunteer somewhere or donate money if you want to help victims of abuse.
Why are you so triggered? I know these things, unfortunately, happen in real life, but it's just a drama, you know? If these kinds of sensitive things trigger you, then why did you watch this drama and read the comments on this page? You must have read the premise of this drama before you watched it. If you want a drama without a complex dynamic as this one has, then you should something lighter. Yes, there are plenty of dramas that are interesting and don't involve an outrageous age gap. Please go watch those.
Also on your point about the lack of an investigation. I initially thought that they were going to arrest her, especially after Iko's school friend found out about their relationship. If they had arrested her, the story would have been pretty predictable after that. The fact that the story wasn't written that way makes it unique and made me more interested to see how things would play out. Also, I think it's more realistic that their relationship wasn't investigated by the police. Adults who engage in inappropriate relationships with minors usually go unpunished, unfortunately.
I personally saw a lot of growth in Wako. I think her growth was very subtle and realistic.
I can see why Azu stayed with Junpei. They had already built something together and they had Nanaka. It can be such a hassle to start over with someone new if they would've gotten divorced.
It really hurt to see Nanaka constantly asking where her dad was. I would feel guilty and pressured to forgive Junpei too for Nanaka's sake if I was Azu.
This is how I interpreted the ending: They broke up, Saki went back to her hometown and had to rebuild herself, Nagata was unaffected by her leaving and used their entire relationship as inspiration for his play. The ending with Saki just sitting there was her realizing that he used her, from start to finish.
1. I love how this drama is presented as a drama about an age gap relationship, but I interpreted it as a journey of self-discovery for Wako. She initially did not know what she wanted for her future and was going along with what was expected of her (kids and marriage). She then realized through her relationships with Fu, Iko and the potential rekindling of romance with Tsuchiya, that none of them could offer something that she truly wanted.
2. I find it interesting that both Iko and Tsuchiya both offered Wako the same kind of life, a life that she initially thought she wanted. Quit your job, have my babies, wait on me to come home everyday, and let me take care of you. Their dreams were incredibly selfish and they did not consider Wako's dreams. As soon as Wako comprehended the true meaning of the life Iko and Tsuchiya had planned, she made the decision for herself to walk away from the goal of marriage and focus on a goal that she actually wanted. This was beautifully captured by the shot of her leaving her meeting with Tsuchiya as the young couple was in the background were taking wedding photos and Wako was in foreground, walking away from both marriage and Tsuchiya.
Fu is different however. Fu did not respect Wako and just liked how she fit into his life. and didn't want to carry too much of her weight (he wanted her to get a rEaL job). He's not necessarily a bad guy, he just did not know what he wanted, similar to Wako. In the end, they probably were not a good match for one another.
3. The point of Iko being so young was very necessary. Because he was still in high school (first year/10th grader), Wako realized she really was ruining his life and robbing him of normalcy. This was solidified when she sensed things were going south for him at school when he was adamant about dropping out. Had he been 21 or something, her needing to break up with him would not be so imperative because he would have been more independent and less malleable. They could have gotten married if he wasn't in high school. The jarring age gap helps Wako and Iko, as well as the audience, realize that they were simply not meant for each other and makes their relationship more consequential if they do not end things.
4. I also found the power imbalance within Iko and Wako's relationship very interesting. Society (pretty much all over the world tbh) decided that it is the man's place to have more power over "his" woman. Iko, although much younger than Wako, knew this and actively sought that kind of power over a woman twice his age. For example, Iko demanded sex from her when he wanted, he wanted to know her whereabouts, who she was with, and forbade her to speak to other men. It must have made Wako extremely uncomfortable to be dominated by a BOY. That had to have hurt her ego. If this were an older man younger woman dynamic, the same power balance would be at play. Only instead of ending their inappropriate relationship like Wako did, an older man would have manipulated his younger girlfriend into dropping out of high school, gotten her pregnant ASAP and kept her at home and under his total control (and threw her away when he got tired of her). Wako ended up doing the right thing, we can at least give her that.
5. I got to thinking when Sasaki mentioned to Iko what if Wako got pregnant when they were alone together in the church. Even though Iko is younger and Wako older, because Wako is a woman and can get pregnant, she is still more vulnerable in this relationship and has more to lose than him. The same could be said if this were a older man younger woman relationship. Men can ALWAYS walk away from risky relationships and be fine. The woman will be stuck with the baby and will be shat on by society for being a single mom and be seen as "used" goods and unworthy of a high quality man (if she wants one).
6. Finally what stood out to me was Iko's descent from sweet, innocent, and slightly awkward to obsessive and emotionally abusive. Kamio Fuju-san portrayed Iko beautifully. Everything was in his eyes. I honestly thought when he went to Wako's workplace after she quit, that he was going to shoot up the place. That scene was especially chilling.
This drama really stands out to me because it was unpredictable, thoroughly engaging and the ending was soooo emotionally satisfying (NEVER CHOOSE A MAN OFFERING YOU NOTHING, ALWAYS CHOOSE YOURSELF). I hope to find more dramas, no matter what country it is made in, that take themselves seriously as did this work of art. 10's across the board. Sorry for rambling and I know this is not that serious but, this drama really sparked something in me and my mind was racing as I watched it.