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If you head here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVw10B31GGs or search for "Modesty garments! #intimacycoordinator #actor" from "Jessica Steinrock | Intimacy Coordinator", she shows what's used in these types of scenes.

I mean, I remember Joong talking in BTS about how he got turned on during the scene when Dunk was (just) kissing his lower stomach in The Heart Killers... So I think if you stimulate the right sensitive areas or you rub your crotch against someone (barrier or no barrier), especially if you're young and hormonal... you will get turned on to some degree even if the person in front of you doesn't push your buttons because they're the wrong gender. Then again, I'm not a man so what do I know. 😅

On the other hand, I saw enough interviews with actors (in gay and heterosexual series) who did say that shooting NC scenes is not romantic or arousing at all because it's pretty much scripted with focus on angles, lighting, acting and actually selling the scene. +there are too many people lurking around... I also saw a video from an intimacy coach how you can pretty much fake chemistry even if there is literally none so you definitely can do a lot with very little if you want.

That being said, I think there are lot more gay and especially bi people running around than we might think. I saw some surveys that mentioned anywhere between 5-10 % of population and that's based on people's willingness to self-identify. So yeah, I think some of them are gay/bi, some of them are dipping their toes in bi waters Deep In-style with their co-stars (within their ships due to the forced proximity or outside of their ships because workplace romance) and I think some of these pairings are dating IRL. Not that it's my business. I can have opinions on specific pairings... but their business is not my business.

But yeah, I would love to see some documentary on workshops... because with some pairings, the chemistry is insane and if we talk statistics, it's very probable those two people are not attracted to the same gender, yet they sell their chemistry very well.

Obviously there was some kind of frontal modesty pouch (with or without additional barrier layer) or whatever intimacy coordinators call these socks, lol. Super interesting stuff actually. The actors sure do look fully naked in these types of scenes but they're usually not.

I just realized that the very first and very last scene of episode 8 are similar in terms of positioning of bodies (corner of the bed). Such great contrasting scenes. It really shows how Sun could have ended up if he met anyone else in that kind of environment rather than Jay.

Omg. I can't unsee this. 🤯 They sure were not just pretending to do those movements but were all in. Good for them, not many actors have a good NC scene that is actually memorable. 💗 Anyway... I think I will go rewatch Top Form. 😄

Happy to help! I have to check her channel out more... I am always interested when the actors talk about workshops and would love to get more info on that. I'm sure the information would be useful for romantic relationship or any relationships in general as well.

Honestly, as a woman myself, Mok's comment felt completely fine. I mean, women are physically weaker. The potential threats to Thee will probably come from men. It makes sense that his bodyguard is best suited to protect him from these threats. It's not misogyny. It's getting the best person for the job. Why employ a petite woman when you can employ a giant man and increase the odds of successfully protecting Thee? Pure practical thinking, imho.

I did krav maga for a few years and still remember how the men there were way stronger than I was - they were the same height, same weight, or even lower than mine, same skills. They restrained their strength (they didn't want to hurt a woman), I didn't (I was struggling to match their restrained strength). If they wanted to take me down, they would. So I take no offense in what Mok said. If I ever needed a bodyguard, I would hire a man and a big one too. Anyhoo, I'm looking forward to the next episode to see how Mira will do. 💗

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVw10B31GGs

Not sure if mdl has issues with links and will remove the one I posted... In case they do, search for "Jessica Steinrock | Intimacy Coordinator" on youtube. The specific video was "Modesty garments! #intimacycoordinator #actor".

I mean if he has no issues with a scene like that, I don't see why it couldn't be him. It really depends on the company's and actor's comfort levels. I guess we can try to compare bodies from this scene and others where Min is shirtless. 😅

Speaking of NC scenes, I recently saw a youtube short from an intimacy coordinator on how they handle privates and bariers between bodies in these types of nude scenes. Super interesting stuff!

I hope the 2nd episode has much better subtitles. I watched maybe half of the first episode and eventually gave up. 😑 I hear that youtube has much better subs but that will probably be cut version, right?

I know from watching some BTS (of a different series) that sometimes the director tells the actors when to do what so that probably gets picked up by the microphones and has to be covered by music... but here, there were natural sounds of breathing but they decided to drown it in music. It always irritates me. I don't really need anything explicit, but the natural sounds is what I like in these types of scenes. 😅 But yeah, I hope you are right and it gets better as the story progresses.

Another NC scene with obnoxiously loud music. Would it kill them to turn the music down a LITTLE bit? I think natural-sounding breathing/moaning is one of the things that helps to sell it way better than any music ever could. Still, a great NC scene. Too bad it wasn't a bit longer, but I guess they have a lot of material to squeeze into 10 episodes.

It does, thank you!

Is this airing only on youtube? No IQIYI?

Oh, it's definitely PondPhuwin. My guess is Phuwin specifically. I vaguely remember seeing some interview or something like that quite a while ago where he said that he's not ready for anything explicit and just wants to do his thing and have time to grow up (but don't quote me on this!).

Maybe in a few years when Phuwin is older and more comfortable with NC stuff. Or not, that's ok too. Though them being under GMM that is imho pretty tame and conservative, I doubt we will see anything more explicit even if PondPhuwin wants to. Then again, Only Friends were pretty wild considering so there's hope, I guess. 😅 Anyway, right now I'm just happy they got out of school BL and act in something more mature-themed.

Well, it's the internet, what did you expect? You are free to post whatever opinion you want (within limits defined by page Terms and/or the law in general) but you have to have a good helmet on. Either that or don't post. Unless you enjoy the drama, you do you; though I noticed people like to troll Karens extra hard.

Also, since JoongDunk is one of my favorite pairings, I am technically a part of the fanbase. I feel zero need to come after you. So maybe exaggerated phrases like "the entire fanbase" are one of the reasons why people come after you. Just food for thought. *shrug*

I think being on Netflix is a good thing for JoongDunk. I mean that's a pretty big platform with a decent reach and the recommendations for the series can pop up for a lot of people. Not sure if it will bring them more or less views (during airing and long term) compared to having it free on youtube... but my guess is it will.

I usually binge watch series after they air but I made an exception with The Heart Killers. I remember the rating was weird during airing (it was too low) and settled later. My guess is either MDL has bad algorithms that determine rating during airing or there are people intentionally manipulating it.

Anyway, keep in mind there are 3 ships involved in this (well I guess we'll see if we get WilliamEst) and I'd be surprised if the series had bad rating. Especially, if I understand it correctly, when GMM is big on the whole "engagement is super important and we can dissolve the pairing/not give them work if they don't deliver" so people will watch it and will probably give it higher rating than it actually deserves. I personally love the over-the-top acting and specific humor... but to each their own, it's definitely not for everyone.