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Replying to lovindrama Sep 27, 2023
cuz basically the whole significance of the drama was already mentioned from the start where duk im wants to be…
I don't see how going to the market once a month (and on all other days having very strictly assigned tasks at the penalty of death) means "having your freedom".
Replying to Sageuk Lover Sep 27, 2023
King taking Deok Im as concubine, Deok Im being a court lady prior to being a concubine, Deok Im and all her children…
I thought the supposed queen was only mentioned a single time, in EP16 or 17?
Replying to Ms Jackson Sep 27, 2023
Stop at episode 16. Got it 👍
Depends on whether you want a Wikipedia article with some (emotional) bonuses or not.
Replying to iateapanda Sep 27, 2023
Title The Red Sleeve Spoiler
Really like the start, but it got draggy in the middle. Although I knew FL's reasoning, it still annoyed me how…
What confused you precisely?
The EP17 ending is ML deciding not to "come back to life" and instead stay with FL "in that moment".
Replying to Lilly Sep 27, 2023
I've never seen a more annoying and stupid FL in my entire history of watching Asian dramas. The plot itself is…
King the Land is modern-day "Jun-ho lording over hundreds of maids", thus pretty similar really.

Both have the ML focusing on work & making sweeping changes for the better largely off-screen.

And both shows have his bad drunk acting, in King the Land it just looks worse side by side to better drunk acting.
Replying to scientiae Sep 24, 2023
One of my biggest problems with K-dramas is how they offer ahistorical portrayals of the Chinese to suit the geopolitical…
Surely you don't expect a client state to portray its controlling/occupying state nicely later on?
Historical K content seems to paint Japan in a much worse light, anyway.
Replying to 9306151 Sep 24, 2023
Title The Crowned Clown Spoiler
I do think they could've done the last 20 minutes much better, the additional conflict and death seem so unnecessary…
The stupid fight ("dying for my king") is taken from the movie, where it's not as absurd but perhaps still bothersome.
Replying to Bi_Myself Sep 24, 2023
I think that the Queen Dowager's search for revenge is very justifiable. I don't know why they keep disregarding…
At the very outset of the show it is.
This quickly changes.
Replying to 9999775 Sep 24, 2023
Title The Crowned Clown Spoiler
I'm not going to lie, this drama started off really great. But it got sooo draggy and had to skip all the romantic…
How the villains could not decide if they want to kill the Mad King or the Clown King made them extremely unconvincing. You can either be angry about the baby-killing, or about a lowborn ruling, but not both.

Killing Lee Guy / Yi Kyu is the silly "if a good character has committed a grave sin, they must die by the end" K-drama law.

The concubine being killed as well as the king/bodyguard being 'killed' is the also-overdone "the good guys might be super smart, but nonetheless they won't take precautions against assassination" that was already in full force with the FL's father.
Replying to kyamisarin Sep 24, 2023
Title The Crowned Clown Spoiler
how is the romance here? no spoilers please
A lot of declarations of forever-together, but it's not convincing.
Replying to luckz Sep 24, 2023
Title The Crowned Clown Spoiler
It's basically intrigue on repeat until the end.
A lot of it illogical too, because the bad guys' motivations to kill King A don't fit King B, and vice versa.
Replying to GRIM Sep 24, 2023
Can I drop it? I am on ep4 and bored…if I drop it will I be missing something spectacular…I think I am bored…
It's basically intrigue on repeat until the end.
Replying to luckz Sep 24, 2023
Title The Crowned Clown Spoiler
Not too much chemistry between the leads. Very repetitive declarations, too.One of the weaker "evil prime minster"…
Every single cup of water served in Joseon was poisoned. After binging this, I'm almost afraid to consume any myself.

Disagree substantially with in what way (and how pointlessly) 'good' characters are killed, especially the very unnecessary re-creation of a scene near the end of the original.

Since the leads stayed forever-virginal, the infertility plotline is left unresolved.

The music often didn't fit the scenes, or appeared to be co-opted from another production with a vastly different theme.
On The Crowned Clown Sep 24, 2023
Not too much chemistry between the leads. Very repetitive declarations, too.

One of the weaker "evil prime minster" performances.

The ending / last episode was ???. Can't decide if they ran out of budget and screen time, had to cram in K-drama morality mandates, or had to 're-align with actual history'.
Replying to Viviana99 Sep 19, 2023
Title Masquerade
Is the same eunuch from the drama remake? :O
He also plays the chief eunuch in Love in the Moonlight.
On Moon Embracing the Sun Sep 15, 2023
Moon Embracing the Sun and Love in the Moonlight are very much the same thing, except:
- since it is far newer, LitM looks modern/watchable rather than like something filmed in the dark ages, and some people won't give MEtS a chance at all because of that
- the young actors for flashbacks are much lower budget in LitM (they were excellent in MEtS and are mediocre in LitM)
- the adult leads are way better in LitM (outside of Kim Soo Hyun vs Yeo Jin Goo all child/teen actors in MEtS are superior to the characters' adult versions, especially Kim Yoo Jung and Yim Si Wan), but since LitM isn't focused on the teen origins at all, it's not really surprising that the main cast is the highlight
- while they each lose steam after a few episodes, when they do they're different forms of unspectacular television
- the really offensive stuff that happens at the end is slightly different and a tiny bit more forgivable in LitM
- conversations with imaginary people, as frequent as they are in both, have much more heart and are better made in MEtS
- the supernatural element plays more of a role and is better in MEtS
- a MEtS royal can't walk a step without fifty servants in tow, while the LitM prince is constantly off alone somewhere or 'out in disguise', and I guess the general abundance of hard to believe scenes is why some commenters call LitM the Disney version of MEtS
- the main bad guy, even though it's the essentially same character doing the very same thing, is far more threatening as personified by Kim Eung Soo (MEtS); Chun Ho Jin (LitM) can't portray the required menace and looks too absent-minded
- Kim Yoo Jung is sure good as the FL of LitM, but even better as the FL of MEtS
- MEtS has a more fleshed out ending, whereas even with over two hours of extra footage compared to the TV broadcast, LitM ends "just like that" with open questions
On Love in the Moonlight Sep 15, 2023
Moon Embracing the Sun and Love in the Moonlight are very much the same thing, except:
- since it is far newer, LitM looks modern/watchable rather than like something filmed in the dark ages, and some people won't give MEtS a chance at all because of that
- the young actors for flashbacks are much lower budget in LitM (they were excellent in MEtS and are mediocre in LitM)
- the adult leads are way better in LitM (outside of Kim Soo Hyun vs Yeo Jin Goo all child/teen actors in MEtS are superior to the characters' adult versions, especially Kim Yoo Jung and Yim Si Wan), but since LitM isn't focused on the teen origins at all, it's not really surprising that the main cast is the highlight
- while they each lose steam after a few episodes, when they do they're different forms of unspectacular television
- the really offensive stuff that happens at the end is slightly different and a tiny bit more forgivable in LitM
- conversations with imaginary people, as frequent as they are in both, have much more heart and are better made in MEtS
- the supernatural element plays more of a role and is better in MEtS
- a MEtS royal can't walk a step without fifty servants in tow, while the LitM prince is constantly off alone somewhere or 'out in disguise', and I guess the general abundance of hard to believe scenes is why some commenters call LitM the Disney version of MEtS
- the main bad guy, even though it's the essentially same character doing the very same thing, is far more threatening as personified by Kim Eung Soo (MEtS); Chun Ho Jin (LitM) can't portray the required menace and looks too absent-minded
- Kim Yoo Jung is sure good as the FL of LitM, but even better as the FL of MEtS
- MEtS has a more fleshed out ending, whereas even with over two hours of extra footage compared to the TV broadcast, LitM ends "just like that" with open questions
Replying to luckz Sep 15, 2023
Does anyone know if the "director's cut" bluray is worth it? Are the episodes longer, etc?
To answer my own question: it's more than two hours longer!
(My guess is around 135 minutes.)
There are many longer scenes / inserted deleted scenes, and some are also moved around. For example, in episode 14, the "reveal" that the TV version starts with is delayed until 12 minutes later in the DC blu-ray.
On Moon Embracing the Sun Sep 12, 2023
It starts out really well, until suddenly the actors are swapped out with mostly-worse ones.
Then there's a lot of uneventful episodes, some towards boring, and a bunch of really unpleasant stuff at the end.
Oh well, at least no product placement, no real second lead syndrome, and I guess no Netflix cuts.
Replying to ohudushi Sep 12, 2023
It was all a bit juvenile and lacked any interesting subplots which would've added some substance. Han Gain is…
BabyKimSohyun wasn't very good either, of course at a very very young age here (and IIRC already better in productions from a few months after this one).
Besides the ML, the older actors in this show generally felt like downgrades from the young ones seen in the first ~6 eps.