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On We Are All Trying Here 11 days ago
Another moral message from this excellent drama is that initially, both Eun A and DM thought they were both self-destructive, ie Eun A for not retaliating in kind against those who hurt her = got nosebleeds, ... and DM for retaliating in kind = got bullied/banned by HJ Gang (or "gangsters") and beaten up by his brother.
....... Only later did they realized that DM was on the right path by retaliating in kind against evildoers/sinners, ie those who hv hurt or offended them. So, Eun A started to retaliate in kind against her enemies = evildoers/sinners, eg she threw a rock at Agit pub, against her mother, CEO Choi, Ma Jaeyeong, etc.

Another indication that DM was right was their emotion watch's "Unknown" emotion which was later found to mean "Help Me", ie DM helped Eun A to overcome her nosebleed episodes by her listening to his retaliatory stories and by her starting to retaliate in kind.

According to the Bible, Christians should love their neighbors/friends and hate their enemies, except when persecuted (Matthew5:43-44), like how Jesus was persecuted and crucified by powerful entities (= non-retaliation), bc God will avenge (Romans12:19-21).
....... In Ep 2, in one of Eun A's nosebleed episodes in the office, she could somehow use her mind to hurt back her enemies, ie the fat 8 Club director suffered coughing bouts and CEO Choi suffered headaches. This may allude to "God will avenge" on behalf of Eun A and other victims.
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Replying to leyah 11 days ago
This is not a romcom where the male lead saves the female lead with 30 different camera angles and slow mo effects…
... In that case, you are saying the other directors in 8 Club are also cowards and have no empathy for not criticizing HDM's talentlessness of 20 years to his face.

Do you criticize your acquaintances' or work colleagues' or school/college alumnis' bad habits or bad behaviour or talentlessness or other bad things to their face.?
....... Normally, we do so only to our family members and close friends, ie criticize them to their face.
....... In East Asia, it's called the "give face" or "save face" culture by not criticizing others' bad things to their face.
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Replying to leyah 12 days ago
This is not a romcom where the male lead saves the female lead with 30 different camera angles and slow mo effects…
... Initially, both Eun A and DM thought they were both self-destructive, ie Eun A for not retaliating in kind = nosebleeds, and DM for retaliating in kind = got bullied or banned by HJ Gang (or "gangsters") and beaten up by his brother.
....... Only later did they realized that DM was on the right path by retaliating in kind against evildoers/sinners. So, Eun A started to retaliate in kind against evildoers/sinners, eg she threw a rock at Agit pub, against her mother, CEO Choi, Ma Jaeyeong, etc.

Another indication that DM was right was their emotion watch's "Unknown" emotion which was later found to mean "Help Me", ie DM helped Eun A to overcome her nosebleed episodes by her listening to his retaliatory stories and by her starting to retaliate in kind.
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Replying to leyah 12 days ago
This is not a romcom where the male lead saves the female lead with 30 different camera angles and slow mo effects…
... In Ep 2, HDM told off CEO Choi in his office for criticizing him to his face, ie Choi had previously criticized HDM to his face for being talentless bc he has yet to debut after 20 years. The others in the 8 Club dared not say so to his face.
... .... HDM also told Choi that he only criticized other directors' bad films behind their backs, not to their face, bc he respected them. Doesn't this show HDM has empathy.?
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Replying to Michael louwe 12 days ago
... Fyi, in the 8 Club of college alumni of film majors, HDM began to mouth off his life stories, esp in criticizing…
... You are at Ep 5 while most of the latest commenters here are up-to-date at Ep 10. Hence the conflicts in your opinions.
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Replying to nikXD 12 days ago
Hey all,I really wish to read the poetry book composed by Dong Man's brother. Is there a reference link?
... Can you read Korean/Hangul.? ( :
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Replying to Maria8633 12 days ago
“I know very well that the woke agenda will never allow this drama to receive a high rating. It talks about…
Some of the low ratings can be by Byeon Woo Seok's besotted fangirls watching Perfect Crown that is in the same time slot.

Hence, their hate for Byeon Eun A. ( :
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Replying to Michael louwe 12 days ago
... Fyi, in the 8 Club of college alumni of film majors, HDM began to mouth off his life stories, esp in criticizing…
... In the context of the Bible, "childish" hate in the heart can bear fruit into the sin of bullying (eg HJ banning HDM from the 8 Club gathering at her Agit pub just bc he spoke unwelcome facts/truths abt her husband's latest movie), sabotage, murder, etc.
....... Similarly, "childish" sexual lust in the heart --> the sin of stalking/harassment, sasaeng fans, molest, peeping Tom, rape, adultery, sexual immorality, HIV/AIDS (= self harm), etc - Mark7:21.
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Replying to Michael louwe 12 days ago
... Fyi, in the 8 Club of college alumni of film majors, HDM began to mouth off his life stories, esp in criticizing…
... IRL, the guilty or evil party is the one who first started doing evil to the other, not the one (= victim) who then retaliated in kind. IOW, the law of ni4ni or a tooth 4 a tooth or a life 4 a life.
....... Eg in the court of law, the convicted murderer first murdered another; then the judge imposes a severe punishment on him in retaliation or revenge/vengeance and in the name of justice for the murder victim.

Initially, Eun A was foolish to not retaliate in kind to those who hated or offended her. Hence, her nosebleeds. HDM's actions against CEO Choi in her office helped her to realize that she should retaliate in kind and not be a pushover.

According to the Bible, Christians are to love their neighbor/friend and hate their enemy, except when persecuted, like how Jesus was (= non-retaliation), bc God will avenge - Matthew5:43-44, Romans12:19-21.
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Replying to danny_ang 12 days ago
Dong Man is really pain to watch.There is always that one friend in our circle.at ep03, He witnessing Eun-A almost…
... Fyi, in the 8 Club of college alumni of film majors, HDM began to mouth off his life stories, esp in criticizing others based on facts, bc he was anxious about the other 7 alumnis hating or disliking him. Eg PGS started to hate HDM after basing his successful debut film on HDM's personal love story bc he feared HDM finding out abt his secret "stealing" of his love story. PGS even wished HDM dead, so that his secret would never be revealed.
... HDM told PGS he hated him bc PGS hated him first.

IRL, fear or anxiety/worries can cause a person to hate and do evil, eg in love relationships, office politics.
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Replying to gig911 12 days ago
I don't think HL want to divorce her husband, it was more like a warning to his co-writer. She is still trying…
The co-writer has been flattering her husband in her presence, ie in her office and Agit pub, which I believe annoyed her/HJ. That may be why she asked the co-writer whether she wanted her husband.
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Replying to gig911 12 days ago
I don't think HL want to divorce her husband, it was more like a warning to his co-writer. She is still trying…
IIRC, at ard Ep 4's quarrel between HDM and her husband, PGS, when her husband asked HJ if she still loved him, she did not say Yes or No. This already showed she has fallen out of love with him, ie she treated him just as a business partner or work colleague in siding with him against HDM.

In Ep 10, she is now siding with HDM against her husband bc she is producing his debut film. IOW, if HDM's film becomes a box office hit, she will reap billions of won. In comparison, her husband has become a losing business proposition to her = it may be better for her to divorce him, eg if his new TV series become a flop.
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Replying to gig911 13 days ago
I also didn't liked Liberation Notes , it was to depressing to me. I can say that this drama is getting better.…
I liked My Liberation Notes very much.
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Replying to gig911 13 days ago
I don't think HL want to divorce her husband, it was more like a warning to his co-writer. She is still trying…
No. IIRC, HJ was rude to CEO Choi when he stole her film production of KnockX3 from her. She was also rude to HDM when banning him from her Agit pub, eg by posting the sign publicly. So, it would not be out of character for her.
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Replying to gig911 13 days ago
I don't think HL want to divorce her husband, it was more like a warning to his co-writer. She is still trying…
I don't think that's how such a warning by a jealous wife would be issued, ie by asking her, "Do you want him.?" Would you have warned the same if it were you.?
....... If issued as a warning, HJ would hv likely told her, "Please stop flattering my husband and do your job properly, or else ...".
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Replying to etoks21 13 days ago
Title We Are All Trying Here Spoiler
The mother is not as evil as we like to believe she is.I believe in redemption.
She lets Eun A use her credit card for her grandma bc she hopes Eun A will reconcile with her so that she can get good PR as not being an evil mother.
....... Remember, her movie, Mother, tanked at 6 million viewers right after socmed exposed her as an evil mother to her bio-daughter, ie the then 9-yo Eun A.
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Replying to etoks21 13 days ago
The mother is not as evil as we like to believe she is.I believe in redemption.
Oh Jeong Hui just told Eun A she was justified in her sin or evildoing of abandoning her daughter, 9-yo Eun A, and her husband in pursuit of fame and fortune with her acting talent. Similarly for those who do victim blaming to justify their crimes. Usually such a person is unrepentant and beyond redemption.
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Replying to Michael louwe 13 days ago
Take heart that as per Wikipedia, this drama is ranked No.1 in South Korea since Ep 3 by Nielsen rating company.
AFAIK, the other dramas in the same or similar weekend time slot are Perfect Crown, Filing For Love, My Royal Nemesis, Recipe For Love, etc.

https://www.mk.co.kr/en/hot-issues/12030835 - 'We Are All Trying Here’ Battles 2% Ratings Instead of Irrelevance [Breakthrough] - 29 April 2026
= this drama started slow with low ratings.

https://www.soompi.com/article/1841877wpp/we-are-all-trying-here-heads-into-final-week-on-its-highest-ratings-yet - 18 May 2026
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Replying to rinadrama 13 days ago
PHY's style is to usually end her dramas a bit ambiguously so I have nooo idea how this will end next week but…
Yes, open ending but ended positively for the main characters overcoming their shortcomings, eg in My Liberation Notes.
....... So, the ending will likely have HDM overcoming his sense of worthlessness after being helped by Eun A and Almighty "Weatherman", up above in the clouds.
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