I like both actors.... but why ML giving gay vibes all the time.... his walk and gestures. As a girl, I'm confused because I can't ship them at all. But looking forward to it. I hopes he does something masculine.
I agree with you!With all the wisdom LanXiang was giving others in the form of poems, songs, stories, etc she…
It feels as if his 20 years of marriage with her was not enough for you. He should have asked her permission before wrapping the red thread and lock down his marriage to LX in next life. I think you simply despise love or your definition of love is completely different from mine.
Character development from my point of view is something that changes over the span of drama ... like when you make decision, you are reluctant in starting but gradually become brave and make those decisions... those small changes that shows positive changes in a person. like XiuRu, YuChan, and many other characters.
FL never showed any shortcomings in her character that was later fixed in the series. She was always right and made right decisions on her own. She always had positive attitude and content nature. She never changed, not in front of power... not in front of money.
I don't want to fight on who is right or who is wrong. We all have different opinions. And not everyone have to agree with me.
As a women, I got a lot of positive energy from this drama and I really enjoyed it.
I watched this drama 5 years ago and really liked it. But now watching it again I felt FL speaks awfully slow.…
More about FL character.... She met his ex, his annoying parents on her own and somehow make a decision for herself that marriage is not sacred but love is SO its better to divorce and end this so-called marriage. Even though you know the other person is going to confess, you are so much immersed in yourself that you don't even see the person you love in front of you or his feelings. You only care about your feelings and want to go to trip to clear you mind and see if you actually miss him. When you do, you come back as if nothing happened with a cake. She could have listened to him, she knows that he does not want to be hindrance in her life so he might not say about what HE want when she clearly ask him for divorce. It felt that she was self obsessed, while saying all those classy monologues about love and marriage.
All she wanted was lover/girlfriend phase without other aspects of marriage where in-laws or kids come into the picture. Just husband, wife and love, nothing else.
I watched this drama 5 years ago and really liked it. But now watching it again I felt FL speaks awfully slow. She was speaking at 0.25x speed. Also because now as I have became more mature, I find her character a little bit delusional.
Dream was to become the writer, so didn't do anything else in her 20s > gave up on it because of SA incident > got contract married for security and home > started part time job to pay rent and other cost > fall in love with landlord/husband > got offer to become writer again (I mean seriously, was that realistic!? no at all ) > gave up that opportunity because her love is priority.
It was CEO who actually recommended her at other company, she herself didn't have any backup plan for her so called dream. How can she be so delusional when the writing world did not even treat her nicely for all her 20s? Somehow she become a great writer suddenly and everyone was ready to give her a chance?
Everything worked perfectly because Go Jung Min character was an angel sent from heaven. She solved all her problem > career life sorted, love life sorted
Otherwise FL is bit delusional for all this to be true.
So.. why did she leave him when he was at his lowest?
I think after so much time together, they were kind of stuck with no source of happiness. Sometimes just love is not enough. He was so addicted to gaming to even have a meal with her, she was eating alone. That's why she left him. She was there for him throughout but she also need the love and support back. He thought she needed a house and only that could make her happy but she needed his time. But when he was at his lowest, he was too busy trying to distract himself from his suffering that he forgot she was there.
I think that's why she couldn't accept him back. When he was at lowest, he brought their relationship at its lowest too. Maybe afraid to go through it again, I don't know!?
But I really have no idea what they want. They were yearning for each other but still let go of each other.
Excellent series. I can hardly watch series with 30+ episodes but I finished this one (even though it still felt…
0.5 deducted for 1. showing all women as initially victims to man, power, greed while FL was only exception and she was so smart that it was unrealistic at times. 2. showing no romance within FL towards ML when everybody knows women are very emotional being. Even though everything was about Shen JiaLan, she never shared her secret about her identity with JinQi. even after knowing his respect towards Shen family and his love towards her. Not even when he specifically asked. It shows lack of trust and love between them.
Excellent series. I can hardly watch series with 30+ episodes but I finished this one (even though it still felt draggy when Du CuiQue reappears). A solid 9.5/10 for all its women empowerment plot, acting and execution.
I just finished the series, and I can say that, to me, the red thread scene was one of the most heartless and…
I agree with you! With all the wisdom LanXiang was giving others in the form of poems, songs, stories, etc she could have said something romantic in that scene. She is very smart so she knows he is going to die soon. Even then she only said only one sentence. I don't care if she said "one lifetime with him is enough and he doesn't need another life to repay for all the bad happened to Shen JiaLan" In all 47 episodes, she never said anything romantic at all.
She could've said something more meaningful or that shows at least some gratitude for how well JinQi treated her as his wife. But nothing. She answered with one sentence but didn't add anything that shows her feelings. It is not as if she didn't had feelings in her, when her mother died, she was grateful but not to him.
For all the people defending her, JinQi has far more character development then her. Her life is "live well and help other living well even in hardest times". while JinQi life is "Respect the family and become a loving husband, son, father and brother. Serve his duty to the king and fight for the people" He lead as an example and you can see the changes that LanXiang wanted in the world were actually shown in him. Even then his love was not correctly reciprocated by LanXiang.
The series could have been 10 episodes shorter. The plot felt unnecessarily dragged out, and some scenes were…
She has always resented him because in her eyes he is blinded by power as he has took something that was out of his reach by using his power "like getting imperial decree to marry her" which would not have possible otherwise. Now she can't say no or divorce him.
BUT the changing point was JinQi taking her to Shen family grave(EP 38). Its not just "another time jump". He told her that he is not a gentlemen and did both good and bad things but from now on he will never fail her. He also asked her how their ways were different so that he can work on those. She started accepting him then. He later left the capital (which shows he no longer run after power) and came back to Jinling. Only then she fully accepted him and truly start loving him.
It was definitely rushed, we never got the FL point of view of how she feels about ML. Resentment was there for 10+ episodes but their loving phase was not even shown for 1 episode. Even at the end when ML dies, only he did the talking and she didn't even say good stuff to him, not even some gratitude. She did not resent him but she was not shown as a romantic person.
I would have liked if she married Han Liang and become wife of scholar who then write plays as well as help her husband . But Han Liang was already a wise man so he didn't need her help. While almost everyone needed LanXiang help in Lin household.
When does Lin JinQi find out that she is actually the Shen daughter?
When she gave birth to their daughter, she said her mother was in labour for 1.5 days while Lan Xiang mother said she was in labour for 4 hours. This makes him suspicious that LanXiang is not actually LanXiang. He then went and check realise that LanXiang had so many talents (reading, writing, embroidery, music and even painting) which is impossible for a servant. JinQi then went to his grand father old master who then told that the painting which Lan Xiang father sold to him was actually Shen family asset and only LanXiang father could only see its real worth. That gave him the hint that it was LanXiang that knew the painting's real worth because she herself is Shen JiaLan. He then confirmed with his grandfather about the character of Shen Jialan and grandfather told him that Shen old master cherished Shen JiaLan as a grandson and taught her himself and hence all the talents.
Poor Luke, he was never treated as a boyfriend, the FL was just too immature, didn't understand what real relationships…
Even Luke was not good either. Called her on her birthday but didn't even wish her Called her on new year, Didn't wish her Happy new year Never said he likes her. Only liked how she was growing in the company and her work.
It like 2 immature people showing off they are mature by doing some HOT intimate scenes
I'm on ep 12, I don't know about Novel but I think this show is based on real people behaviours rather than "perfect" love. After watching half of the series, I can tell this is most common case where A girl like a red flag because of his certain qualities but when they started dating, she expect him to change and becomes green flag. Lumi has been telling FL that he is not dating material but he is good at his job. We get all the hint that he is a bad choice for partner. But FL still decide to hope for the impossible. They definitely like and love each other but their personalities makes it harder for them.
None of them are perfect but since the story has been told from FL point of view (with her monologue here and there), she is shown as victim. But she is one who is more flawed. If someone ask her who would like to take hard new task she be like ME 🙋🏻♀️. Who is like to talk to his boyfriend "Ah nevermind"
A girl who falls so hard that even the small amount of affection from ML felt more than enough as she does not feel worthy herself, because he is too good in terms of work/career. She knows this from the starting that a relationship like this won't be normal but still went ahead with the decision. Someone who would confine in her best friend rather than talking to the person involved. we as a user would want her to date someone better who deserve her love but thats not the point, she only wants his love
A male lead that is cold, rude, egoistic and takes very proud of his talent and what he is. he does not know how to express his thoughts or feelings in words or how to deal with sincere feelings. He mostly take action only when a friend advice him what to do "A friend who has fair idea of how to love someone normally". He himself said that normal dating is too much for him since beginning. We can tell he is not the typical male lead.
I'm sure this story gonna end when female lead have enough of his non-talking, non-caring personality and leaving him for good, And male lead realising how much he love her, care about her and miss her. Maybe he will take action -> happy ending OR maybe not -> sad ending
Ahhh the sexual tension between the couple in their intimate scenes 😈. the male lead is serving his looks and aura like a pro! And female lead giving that "its my first time "innocent vibe.
I think you simply despise love or your definition of love is completely different from mine.
Character development from my point of view is something that changes over the span of drama ... like when you make decision, you are reluctant in starting but gradually become brave and make those decisions... those small changes that shows positive changes in a person. like XiuRu, YuChan, and many other characters.
FL never showed any shortcomings in her character that was later fixed in the series. She was always right and made right decisions on her own. She always had positive attitude and content nature. She never changed, not in front of power... not in front of money.
I don't want to fight on who is right or who is wrong. We all have different opinions. And not everyone have to agree with me.
As a women, I got a lot of positive energy from this drama and I really enjoyed it.
She met his ex, his annoying parents on her own and somehow make a decision for herself that marriage is not sacred but love is SO its better to divorce and end this so-called marriage. Even though you know the other person is going to confess, you are so much immersed in yourself that you don't even see the person you love in front of you or his feelings. You only care about your feelings and want to go to trip to clear you mind and see if you actually miss him. When you do, you come back as if nothing happened with a cake.
She could have listened to him, she knows that he does not want to be hindrance in her life so he might not say about what HE want when she clearly ask him for divorce.
It felt that she was self obsessed, while saying all those classy monologues about love and marriage.
All she wanted was lover/girlfriend phase without other aspects of marriage where in-laws or kids come into the picture. Just husband, wife and love, nothing else.
Also because now as I have became more mature, I find her character a little bit delusional.
Dream was to become the writer, so didn't do anything else in her 20s > gave up on it because of SA incident > got contract married for security and home > started part time job to pay rent and other cost > fall in love with landlord/husband > got offer to become writer again (I mean seriously, was that realistic!? no at all ) > gave up that opportunity because her love is priority.
It was CEO who actually recommended her at other company, she herself didn't have any backup plan for her so called dream. How can she be so delusional when the writing world did not even treat her nicely for all her 20s? Somehow she become a great writer suddenly and everyone was ready to give her a chance?
Everything worked perfectly because Go Jung Min character was an angel sent from heaven. She solved all her problem > career life sorted, love life sorted
Otherwise FL is bit delusional for all this to be true.
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Why can't they release all episodes together!?
He is so talented, I have to thanks TES to bring me across such a good actor and his so many works
But when he was at his lowest, he was too busy trying to distract himself from his suffering that he forgot she was there.
I think that's why she couldn't accept him back. When he was at lowest, he brought their relationship at its lowest too. Maybe afraid to go through it again, I don't know!?
But I really have no idea what they want. They were yearning for each other but still let go of each other.
1. showing all women as initially victims to man, power, greed while FL was only exception and she was so smart that it was unrealistic at times.
2. showing no romance within FL towards ML when everybody knows women are very emotional being. Even though everything was about Shen JiaLan, she never shared her secret about her identity with JinQi. even after knowing his respect towards Shen family and his love towards her. Not even when he specifically asked. It shows lack of trust and love between them.
A solid 9.5/10 for all its women empowerment plot, acting and execution.
With all the wisdom LanXiang was giving others in the form of poems, songs, stories, etc she could have said something romantic in that scene. She is very smart so she knows he is going to die soon. Even then she only said only one sentence. I don't care if she said "one lifetime with him is enough and he doesn't need another life to repay for all the bad happened to Shen JiaLan" In all 47 episodes, she never said anything romantic at all.
She could've said something more meaningful or that shows at least some gratitude for how well JinQi treated her as his wife. But nothing. She answered with one sentence but didn't add anything that shows her feelings. It is not as if she didn't had feelings in her, when her mother died, she was grateful but not to him.
For all the people defending her, JinQi has far more character development then her. Her life is "live well and help other living well even in hardest times". while JinQi life is "Respect the family and become a loving husband, son, father and brother. Serve his duty to the king and fight for the people" He lead as an example and you can see the changes that LanXiang wanted in the world were actually shown in him. Even then his love was not correctly reciprocated by LanXiang.
BUT the changing point was JinQi taking her to Shen family grave(EP 38). Its not just "another time jump". He told her that he is not a gentlemen and did both good and bad things but from now on he will never fail her. He also asked her how their ways were different so that he can work on those. She started accepting him then. He later left the capital (which shows he no longer run after power) and came back to Jinling. Only then she fully accepted him and truly start loving him.
It was definitely rushed, we never got the FL point of view of how she feels about ML. Resentment was there for 10+ episodes but their loving phase was not even shown for 1 episode. Even at the end when ML dies, only he did the talking and she didn't even say good stuff to him, not even some gratitude. She did not resent him but she was not shown as a romantic person.
I would have liked if she married Han Liang and become wife of scholar who then write plays as well as help her husband . But Han Liang was already a wise man so he didn't need her help. While almost everyone needed LanXiang help in Lin household.
Called her on her birthday but didn't even wish her
Called her on new year, Didn't wish her Happy new year
Never said he likes her. Only liked how she was growing in the company and her work.
It like 2 immature people showing off they are mature by doing some HOT intimate scenes
After watching half of the series, I can tell this is most common case where A girl like a red flag because of his certain qualities but when they started dating, she expect him to change and becomes green flag. Lumi has been telling FL that he is not dating material but he is good at his job. We get all the hint that he is a bad choice for partner. But FL still decide to hope for the impossible. They definitely like and love each other but their personalities makes it harder for them.
None of them are perfect but since the story has been told from FL point of view (with her monologue here and there), she is shown as victim. But she is one who is more flawed. If someone ask her who would like to take hard new task she be like ME 🙋🏻♀️. Who is like to talk to his boyfriend "Ah nevermind"
A girl who falls so hard that even the small amount of affection from ML felt more than enough as she does not feel worthy herself, because he is too good in terms of work/career. She knows this from the starting that a relationship like this won't be normal but still went ahead with the decision. Someone who would confine in her best friend rather than talking to the person involved. we as a user would want her to date someone better who deserve her love but thats not the point, she only wants his love
A male lead that is cold, rude, egoistic and takes very proud of his talent and what he is. he does not know how to express his thoughts or feelings in words or how to deal with sincere feelings. He mostly take action only when a friend advice him what to do "A friend who has fair idea of how to love someone normally". He himself said that normal dating is too much for him since beginning. We can tell he is not the typical male lead.
I'm sure this story gonna end when female lead have enough of his non-talking, non-caring personality and leaving him for good, And male lead realising how much he love her, care about her and miss her.
Maybe he will take action -> happy ending OR maybe not -> sad ending