The problem is not that itâs a makjang. The issue is that it started of as a thriller romance. Which is what Netflix categorizes it as. It ended as a makjang which is false advertising so youâll see the issue that people are having is in feeling betrayed, not in the show being a makjang
I was enjoying it until Hee Joo fell off that cliff along with any sense of plot or logic that was holding the show together. Itâs sad because they could have spent the last 3 episodes making Hee Joo or SaEon a BETTER character, or idk sent them on a vacation to Malta to get away from trauma. But they choose to make it crap with hot cringe.
Honestly up until episode 4 I was enjoying it despite the janky logic but the the lawyers deliberately trying…
Just got to the part where he installs a tracker on her phone without her consent or even telling her?!???!!
I mean I get heâs concerned for her safety but this is demented! Theyâre priming him up to be the romantic interest and with that in mind, how CREEPY is this behaviour?! Nothing has technically happened to her yet, he hasnât noticed anything askew around Mijin either so this is just him behaving as he would in any given situation. Massive red flags for toxic romance. NO THANK YOU, NEXT
Honestly up until episode 4 I was enjoying it despite the janky logic but the the lawyers deliberately trying to physically wear down someone older by punishing her for being effective though she is perfectly capable is cruel and an aâŹâŹhole move. Despicable, even. No respect for WhatsHisFace Lawyer #1 and Minion Lawyer #2.
This show needs to get its crap together and actually pay attention to its messaging and character development. Gonna watch one more episode before and hope Despicable Lawyer #1 learns his lesson and gets a better character arc because I hate him rn.
Watched episode one and there were some really cute bits with mijin but there is WAY too much crying and pouting already. Like, she wears misery like a blanket. Iâll watch episode 2 and see if her character feels less like a stinky wet towel.
Im not against CP and Haena. Kings have a habit of marrying girls who havenât even bled yet, so why is it an…
It doesn't make sense to you because you're not actually focusing on what the show is trying to say. Could it have handled things better? Yes, they could have taken other routes, but the point was that 'age gaps are nbd when it comes to love' --- except they forgot that it can be predatory so I do understand your feelings of discomfort as well.
Im not against CP and Haena. Kings have a habit of marrying girls who havenât even bled yet, so why is it an…
You know, I'm kind of loving this discussion actually. I think its really interesting how people are taking morality standpoints in this scenario.
I definitely understand the "didn't need to include it" perspective because there is a thread of discomfort with 'normalizing' the idea of a 14 year old and 24 year old and painting it as romantic. They could have aged him to 17 or 18 or whatever. I appreciated the comment that said it IS NOT a historical retelling and did NOT need to add it in, so the choice to add in the romance is deliberately provoking feelings of discomfort.
However, maybe its because usually, actors in the 17-18 year age range tend to be "idol"-types and thus bring out their army of fans who refuse to see their idol be paired with an older woman. In my experience, this is regularly the case with kdramas with older female leads. I've been in MANY discussions with rabid fangirls crying about how its SO GROSS that a woman is 30 and the boy is 20. It's SO GROSS that he's 25 and she's 50. I think the point the creators of the show might be trying to make is "So what?"
Unfortunately, they did not take a very holistic approach and left out the fact that age gaps are not the problem, it's the predatory nature and power imbalances of age gaps. They've highlighted how Hana is a companion and friend to the CP but have not yet acknowledged the power dynamic. I mean, CP and Hana just don't have enough screen time together for us to understand their relationship.
All in all, I think its useless to argue about the morality of two fictional characters and maybe think more deeply about what message the show creators are trying to convey, which is far more important than "Is it okay for these two fictional characters to be together" -- I mean who is the authority on that anyway? What moral baseline are we working with? So MY CONCLUSION IS, its far more constructive to be discussing the show's message.
Omg guys. Iâm loving it. I love the direction itâs all going in. I love that Shim Jung Woo did not fight and…
Im not against CP and Haena. Kings have a habit of marrying girls who havenât even bled yet, so why is it an issue if the Prince is 15 and sheâs 25? Itâs not predatory, even though heâs 15, he literally has all the power and force to subjugate her, even if she is 10 years older. If youâre thinking about them doing the deed, then donât. Lol. Like bruh, take your mind out of the gutter. He doesnât have to impregnate her to marry her.
Omg guys. Iâm loving it. I love the direction itâs all going in. I love that Shim Jung Woo did not fight and basically had to be saved, but this did not diminish his value. I love that theyâre so candid about him being an agent of love. I love Soon Dukâs conniving but somehow still very righteous mother in law and her involvement with her husbandâs affairs. She has power and she knows it. This is how feminism should look like in media. This is K-media feminism taking a whole new angle. Move over Hollywood, youâre stale bread.
What the hell is happening with this story?! Like, figure out which genre you want to be in, ffs. The new villains are so effin stupid, theyâre making the main characters act stupidly too. The Yul story was cute and funny but Hae Na was basically useless background wallpaper through episode 6 and 7! She went from being cute and spunky to dumb and directionless.
Just caught up and I gotta say, thereâs a lot of weird things happening tonally. Weâre spending WAY too much time with the grandma romance. I hope this is going to actually be part of the character arcs and hopefully grandmaâs romance is not just a joke. Also the brotherâs romance? Idk. I kind of want the plot to come back to this whole drug thing theyâre dealing with which is like, a HUGE story on its own.
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I mean I get heâs concerned for her safety but this is demented! Theyâre priming him up to be the romantic interest and with that in mind, how CREEPY is this behaviour?! Nothing has technically happened to her yet, he hasnât noticed anything askew around Mijin either so this is just him behaving as he would in any given situation. Massive red flags for toxic romance. NO THANK YOU, NEXT
This show needs to get its crap together and actually pay attention to its messaging and character development. Gonna watch one more episode before and hope Despicable Lawyer #1 learns his lesson and gets a better character arc because I hate him rn.
I definitely understand the "didn't need to include it" perspective because there is a thread of discomfort with 'normalizing' the idea of a 14 year old and 24 year old and painting it as romantic. They could have aged him to 17 or 18 or whatever. I appreciated the comment that said it IS NOT a historical retelling and did NOT need to add it in, so the choice to add in the romance is deliberately provoking feelings of discomfort.
However, maybe its because usually, actors in the 17-18 year age range tend to be "idol"-types and thus bring out their army of fans who refuse to see their idol be paired with an older woman. In my experience, this is regularly the case with kdramas with older female leads. I've been in MANY discussions with rabid fangirls crying about how its SO GROSS that a woman is 30 and the boy is 20. It's SO GROSS that he's 25 and she's 50. I think the point the creators of the show might be trying to make is "So what?"
Unfortunately, they did not take a very holistic approach and left out the fact that age gaps are not the problem, it's the predatory nature and power imbalances of age gaps. They've highlighted how Hana is a companion and friend to the CP but have not yet acknowledged the power dynamic. I mean, CP and Hana just don't have enough screen time together for us to understand their relationship.
All in all, I think its useless to argue about the morality of two fictional characters and maybe think more deeply about what message the show creators are trying to convey, which is far more important than "Is it okay for these two fictional characters to be together" -- I mean who is the authority on that anyway? What moral baseline are we working with? So MY CONCLUSION IS, its far more constructive to be discussing the show's message.