Tonkla, you’ve just earned yourself a VIP spot on my hit list! I get it, but seriously, you’ve just snatched the crown from the Grandma. Congrats on being the number one villain for tearing my lovers apart. GET IN A CORNER.
Before the moral police come for me, relax—it's a joke, so take it with a grain of salt, alright? I know why he did it, but I’m still allowed to vent lmao.
Mimicat you're here! In this episode I felt like I was watching Vegas 2.0 :D
I felt it too—whenever his cocky side showed, my heart would leap because it reminded me so much of him. I really miss Vegas, so this definitely fed my soul.
Great's innocence, hidden beneath his darker side, is too endearing to overlook. Whenever he was with Tyme and acted like a child during that sweet date, my heart melted. Even though we know he's morally messed up, seeing those adorable moments surface around Tyme is just too cute.
Is anyone else really worried about how they are going to wrap this up in 3 episodes? I just feel like we have…
I've mentioned this before and I'll say it again: limiting this to 8 episodes was a big mistake. The story is too complex and really needs more time to develop. Bible did assure us that everything will be wrapped up nicely, but he’s also the one who considered "space less" a happy ending, so I’m not sure I can trust his judgment! 🐈
I can not wait to explore Great's mischievous side in full. Up until now, we've only seen brief glimpses of his darker tendencies, but we're about to delve much deeper into his character. Watching the spoiled rich kid make all the wrong choices is going to be fascinating. I'm especially interested in seeing how his arrogance and cockiness show on the screen
i have yet to dive into this series, but there is one thing i am eager to know first prior to doing so: are great…
Not all NC's are out yet, but I can say with 99 percent certainty that they are strictly top and bottom. After watching the scenes in the trailer and the NC that has already aired, I don't think there's any switching involved.
I realize I might be in the minority, but I genuinely ship Korn and Tonkla over Tonkla and Win. The dynamic between Tonkla and Win just doesn’t resonate with me. They’ve barely had any meaningful interactions, and it’s obvious Tonkla is manipulating Win. On top of that, Win’s reactions are baffling—he discovers Tonkla’s fingerprints at a crime scene, but instead of doing his duty, he’s suddenly moving in with him and getting emotional when he sees Tonkla with another man? It’s just not logical.
Part of my disconnect might be due to JJ’s acting. He tends to fall short in key moments, and while he has potential, I feel like he still needs more practice to truly deliver. That aside, I just don’t see the appeal in Tonkla and Win as a couple. I know they’re a popular ship and will likely be endgame, especially since BOC has clearly set up JJ and Fuaiz as a pairing. But for me, Korn and Tonkla bring something entirely different to the table. Their relationship is layered with complexity—a deep, messy history and an equally chaotic present. Yes, they’re undeniably toxic, but their chemistry is electric; it’s the kind that leaps off the screen. Both actors are on the same level, so the intensity between them feels balanced and authentic. Their story arc feels more coherent and compelling to me. Just my opinion
Bible mentioned that before filming any NC scenes, they hold a workshop the day before to discuss boundaries and determine how far each actor is comfortable going. I know there were concerns about Fuaiz on MDL since he's only 18, and it's true that not all companies take the necessary precautions. However, BOC made sure the actors had the final say on their limits. They also prioritize the actors' comfort by keeping the number of people on set to a minimum and always have discussions about boundaries with the people involved, not just Fuaiz but everyone who has those kind of scenes.
EXACTLY THIS. I think people might be having a hard time separating the actor from the character 😭😭
I can definitely see some power dynamics at play—not so much because of age like you said, but rather in how Tonkla seems somewhat dependent on Korn in certain ways. However, I don't see Tonkla as innocent at all. Yes, Title was a terrible person and a killer himself, so I understand why people might not view Tonkla's revenge as entirely wrong. But is it morally acceptable? Not really. Do I like that Tonkla killed him and think he deserved it? Absolutely. But I also recognize that this act makes Tonkla just as dark as the other characters.
Watching their practice (I'll link it below) truly tugged at my heartstrings. Even in rehearsal, they manage to convey the two timelines so brilliantly. The way they search for each other, even when they’re just feet apart, captures that aching sense of longing and desire perfectly. Their movements, so simple yet powerful, speak volumes to me. And when they finally find each other, it’s like witnessing Tyme trying to escape, only for Great to catch him and pull him close, until Tyme surrenders—just for time to tear them apart again. It’s sooo deep.
TonKla is definitely a dark character, he is a murderer and he is using Win as a consolation prize.However he…
I’m not sure if Korn is the sole reason, honestly. It seems like he was always a bit dark from the start. The dead cat felt like a clue to me—some theories suggest he killed it, but that hasn’t been confirmed yet. I’m certain Korn’s broken promises made him even darker, but I doubt they alone could mess him up this badly unless he was already messed up to begin with, and Korn’s actions just amplified it.
And seriously, Win is so suspicious to me. How do you just move in after one assclap? 😭
I’ve noticed that many people tend to view Tonkla as an innocent victim, which is a valid interpretation, but I see it differently. In some ways, he might even be more troubling than Korn. After all, Tonkla is the one who’s actually taken a life with his own hands—something we haven’t seen from Korn.
Tonkla’s behavior is also quite dark; he treats Win as a mere object for comfort, not as a person. He’s far from innocent, and at 26, the age difference between him and Korn is minimal—just 2 or 3 years—so there’s no significant power dynamic based on age. Their relationship is complex and dark on both sides.
Moreover, Tonkla engages in drug use and other questionable activities behind Korn’s back, so it’s not as if Korn is leading him down a dark path. Tonkla is already there.
Given all this, I find it a tiny bit funny 😭 that people debate who’s better for Tonkla between Korn and Win, when perhaps the real issue is that Tonkla may not be good for either of them as well.
I have a different take on their situation. At first, I really thought that Korn is trying to shield his brother.…
I think that Korn’s greed for the company has totally taken over his life. What started as a way to gain power so he could be with Tonkla has spiraled into an obsession. Over time, his desire for more power has completely overshadowed his original intentions, hence why he was ready to give up on tonkla at the end
I'm not so keen to fully believe Korn and Great's brotherly bond just yet since what we see of them may just be…
Korn is an incredibly complex character; it’s often difficult to discern when he’s being genuine and when he’s putting on an act. His true intentions are so hard to tell but I like to believe he cares for his brother
Before the moral police come for me, relax—it's a joke, so take it with a grain of salt, alright? I know why he did it, but I’m still allowed to vent lmao.
Part of my disconnect might be due to JJ’s acting. He tends to fall short in key moments, and while he has potential, I feel like he still needs more practice to truly deliver. That aside, I just don’t see the appeal in Tonkla and Win as a couple. I know they’re a popular ship and will likely be endgame, especially since BOC has clearly set up JJ and Fuaiz as a pairing. But for me, Korn and Tonkla bring something entirely different to the table. Their relationship is layered with complexity—a deep, messy history and an equally chaotic present. Yes, they’re undeniably toxic, but their chemistry is electric; it’s the kind that leaps off the screen. Both actors are on the same level, so the intensity between them feels balanced and authentic. Their story arc feels more coherent and compelling to me. Just my opinion
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And seriously, Win is so suspicious to me. How do you just move in after one assclap? 😭
Tonkla’s behavior is also quite dark; he treats Win as a mere object for comfort, not as a person. He’s far from innocent, and at 26, the age difference between him and Korn is minimal—just 2 or 3 years—so there’s no significant power dynamic based on age. Their relationship is complex and dark on both sides.
Moreover, Tonkla engages in drug use and other questionable activities behind Korn’s back, so it’s not as if Korn is leading him down a dark path. Tonkla is already there.
Given all this, I find it a tiny bit funny 😭 that people debate who’s better for Tonkla between Korn and Win, when perhaps the real issue is that Tonkla may not be good for either of them as well.
All three have some fucked up behaviors.
A season 2 would be nice but bible said everything will wrap in the 8 episodes so I do not think that is a plan they have yet