The agency stated that she passed away suddenly, so no one knows the reason 😔
Please don't tell me to "get a life" when you latched onto a comment that had nothing to do with you, throwing insults at someone who has never spoken to you.
Yes, I live here, so yes I do know better than someone who never has lived here. It's called lived experience. I don't know why that makes you angry or more likely jealous, but it's really pathetic on your end.
Also, people need to realize "bitch" isn't an insult, and is only used as such by misogynists.
The agency stated that she passed away suddenly, so no one knows the reason 😔
Oof. You can write words in all caps, but can't defend against them.
One of us started calling names, and it wasn't me. But congrats on your projections and your continued consumption of media that benefits a system you apparently hate.
I hope all the oppars you love marry gorgeous women and that it frustrates the hell out of you :)
The agency stated that she passed away suddenly, so no one knows the reason 😔
Dude, you are actually insane. Go get help. You are obsessed with shame and I'm guessing you live a really sad life, and much like a standard internet bully, need others to experience the shame you feel to help yourself feel better.
I'm not Korean, I live and work here and have actually spoken to Koreans (unlike you because what Korean person would talk to you) so stop all that racist nonsense you're spewing.
You clearly have no understanding of Korea funeral customs and paid absolutely no attention to the memorial set up at SM for Jonghyun. You think the family should've moved Jonghyun into the hurst in a garage? Do you understand how disrespectful you sound, or do you just not care? Google "wake", "funeral", and "memorial", maybe you'll learn something.
Any actual idol fan knows idols essentially give up their career and risk huge push-back from fans if they reveal they're dating, regardless of who it is. And because you're so obsessed with shame, let's clarify that's because of capitalism. But you'd know that, wouldn't you? You just don't care because it doesn't suit your xenophobic, racist agenda.
It must be nice to have never lost someone to understand how all-consuming grief can be. Your determination that every Korean is obsessed with shame is disgusting, and makes me wonder why you participate in kpop and kdrama when you're so angry at the country they come from. And calling me a SJW isn't the insult you think it is.
If it is a suicide, they are not allowed to announce it in Korean media since celebrities suicides lead to an…
I think one of major issues in the original comment is the clear outside perspective, the "let me educate the Koreans" mindset, the "west is best" without any clear experience in the country being discussed.
It might not be ideal or what western people view as best, and obviously the ideal situation is everyone having a happy, successful, fulfilled life. But that will never, ever happen, no matter how much changes. This is the solution that Korea and the Korean government is using, and rolling in and demanding change is never going to work.
I live and work here, and know so many Korean people impacted by the suicides here. Anyone who has been to Korea knows that any foreign idea will never be accepted by Koreans to the same extent that internal change would be. And a foreigner coming in saying "everything about you is wrong" is definitely not the approach that will change anything. The mentality being expressed by this frosty person is the exact thing that would make the situation worse, without question.
The agency stated that she passed away suddenly, so no one knows the reason 😔
Please don't speculate on the sexual orientation of people you don't know. Of course some idols are gay, but you have absolutely no clue who and the idea that anyone can "tell" based on a public persona is absolutely ridiculous and borderline homophobic. You cannot tell if a person you don't know is gay or straight or anything in between unless they say so. Your perceived "deception" might be your unwillingness to admit that your idols aren't actually gay, just comfortable in femininity that in the west is ascribed a "gay" label.
Any actual SHINee fan knows what the entire country went through with Jonghyun's death, and would know why families want privacy, and why they aren't screaming from the rooftops about suicide. Hell, at absolutely zero of the many funerals I have attended where the cause of death was suicide, was it EVER shouted during eulogies. It's not shame, it's grief. Did you ever think in your mass hysteria that maybe, just maybe, the companies are conveying the actual wishes of families? Do you seriously think Jonghyun's family wanted to send him away with the flicker of paparazzi cameras?
This mentality of "f Koreans they don't know what they're talking about with issues that affect their own country" is insanely toxic.
Says passed away suddenly...only thought that comes to mind is suicide. But I have no idea.
Dude what is your vendetta with the industry... the family wants privacy because someone they loved just died. Grow up, show some respect, and stop creating conspiracies where there are none.
Essentially Korean age counts the number of years you have existed, not the number of birthdays. She was in her 31st year of life including her birth year of 1992, but would have completed, for lack of a better word, 30 birthdays. That's why everyone in Korea "ages" on the first day of the new year.
If it is a suicide, they are not allowed to announce it in Korean media since celebrities suicides lead to an…
Clearly you are clueless to the epidemic that is suicide in Korea. The media honouring this literally saves lives, since most suicides in Korea are youth under the age of 25. In addition to insane school, work, and family pressure, the mentality of "if a celebrity who made it has nothing to live for, why should I keep fighting" is insanely prevalent. Add the pandemic onto that, and the situation is really dire. The government will never funnel money into lowering the suicide rate because it would mean a complete overhaul of the school system, hiring system and capitalism as a whole, plus Korean hierarchical structure all the way down to naming traditions and the continued pressure placed on first born sons to "represent the family well" and for daughters to "marry well". Plus, Korea is capitalist. It doesn't truly matter to the government who lives or dies, as long as the economy and the rich survive. If you've lived in Korea at all, especially during the pandemic, you would know that.
Please do more research before speaking ignorantly about what Korean media should or should not do.
On Netflix this drama is listed as 20 episodes (each about 1hr in length). Was it aired on MBC with more episodes? Or were the 1hr episodes split, and that's why here it says 40 episodes?
Yes, I live here, so yes I do know better than someone who never has lived here. It's called lived experience. I don't know why that makes you angry or more likely jealous, but it's really pathetic on your end.
Also, people need to realize "bitch" isn't an insult, and is only used as such by misogynists.
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One of us started calling names, and it wasn't me. But congrats on your projections and your continued consumption of media that benefits a system you apparently hate.
I hope all the oppars you love marry gorgeous women and that it frustrates the hell out of you :)
I'm not Korean, I live and work here and have actually spoken to Koreans (unlike you because what Korean person would talk to you) so stop all that racist nonsense you're spewing.
You clearly have no understanding of Korea funeral customs and paid absolutely no attention to the memorial set up at SM for Jonghyun. You think the family should've moved Jonghyun into the hurst in a garage? Do you understand how disrespectful you sound, or do you just not care? Google "wake", "funeral", and "memorial", maybe you'll learn something.
Any actual idol fan knows idols essentially give up their career and risk huge push-back from fans if they reveal they're dating, regardless of who it is. And because you're so obsessed with shame, let's clarify that's because of capitalism. But you'd know that, wouldn't you? You just don't care because it doesn't suit your xenophobic, racist agenda.
It must be nice to have never lost someone to understand how all-consuming grief can be. Your determination that every Korean is obsessed with shame is disgusting, and makes me wonder why you participate in kpop and kdrama when you're so angry at the country they come from. And calling me a SJW isn't the insult you think it is.
It might not be ideal or what western people view as best, and obviously the ideal situation is everyone having a happy, successful, fulfilled life. But that will never, ever happen, no matter how much changes. This is the solution that Korea and the Korean government is using, and rolling in and demanding change is never going to work.
I live and work here, and know so many Korean people impacted by the suicides here. Anyone who has been to Korea knows that any foreign idea will never be accepted by Koreans to the same extent that internal change would be. And a foreigner coming in saying "everything about you is wrong" is definitely not the approach that will change anything. The mentality being expressed by this frosty person is the exact thing that would make the situation worse, without question.
Any actual SHINee fan knows what the entire country went through with Jonghyun's death, and would know why families want privacy, and why they aren't screaming from the rooftops about suicide. Hell, at absolutely zero of the many funerals I have attended where the cause of death was suicide, was it EVER shouted during eulogies. It's not shame, it's grief. Did you ever think in your mass hysteria that maybe, just maybe, the companies are conveying the actual wishes of families? Do you seriously think Jonghyun's family wanted to send him away with the flicker of paparazzi cameras?
This mentality of "f Koreans they don't know what they're talking about with issues that affect their own country" is insanely toxic.
Please do more research before speaking ignorantly about what Korean media should or should not do.