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Just like those morning kisses you see in these dramas..
Try having those morning kisses and you would be puking in each other's mouths.

Some people here are fraudulently stating that FL and her husband had a business marriage.
NO, they did not have a business marriage. They had an arranged marriage, which is infinitely different from a business marriage.

https://seoullawgroup.com/marriage-contract-in-korea/

A business/contract marriage is one where both parties before the marriage come to an agreement as how the marriage and if inevitable, a divorce would proceed. This is standard practice not just in Korea but in most western nations. This is documented and signed by both partied and in this case it would have been the FL and her husband.
This drama does not show FL and her husband signing any agreement to that affect.

So, all they had was a normal marriage with normal expectations, obligations and responsibilities, even legal ones.

What this means is, if the wife on the day of marriage says 'no sex' to her husband and forces a divorce, the poor sod would part with up to 70% of his wealth to his newly wed wife refusing sex.

Now in this drama, even if the husband divorces the wife, he is pretty much fked.
He does not have business/contract to fall back on and the FL is known to be a sucker for money and power.

So, some of the members were pulling crap out of their posterior when they said this was a business marriage when it clearly was an arranged one.
And they are still pulling things out of their posterior to justify the kunt of a FL who has been a horrible wench not just to the person who loved her but also to the person who married her.

so, a man gets married and as part of his marriage, expecting sex makes him a rapist..

thanks for setting it straight.

And, just remind me which scenes in the drama shows FL telling her husband prior to the marriage that it's a deal and there wont be sex?
tell us.

by default if one is getting married they assume the responsibilities that comes with it.
You don't discuss defaults, you discuss EXCEPTIONS.
not having sex is an exception, wanting to suck other men's things is an exception. If FL wanted these as part of her marriage deal, she should have discussed this BEFORE the marriage.

there are horrible men in this world as well as horrible women.
the FL in this one is a horrible kunt and a borderline wh0re.

regarding war and conscription, WTF are you again talking about?
Men DID NOT make these rules. Few Men and Women made these rules for most of the men.
Most men 99.999% of men for all history had no rights, dont confuse few men having power to all men having it.
History and even today dragged men to their deaths without their agreement.
just go and watch videos of men being dragged to their deaths in Ukraine.
lol @ feminists wanting equality. Most ukranian women have run away. Men jailed and foced to fight.
the women had a choice and except few brave ones, all ran away.
men on the other hand had no option.

just asking, women who divorce men, get their hard earned wealth as part of it, are they wh0res? Afterall by your logic, sex is not an entitlement and expecting sex makes men rapists.
So, expecting weath out of marriage makes women what?
I think they are entitled wealth as part of divorce but your logic makes these women wh0res...

the right to fight is not the same as being conscripted and forced into war.
when men have the same right as woman where they can choose or not to fight, then your point has a leg to stand on.
Until then, it reeks of disgusting hypocrisy when in Ukraine it's only men who are conscripted and most deaths on frontlines are men.

grow up.

denying sex is cruelty is law in most countries. You can scream all you want but it is enshrined in law as base for divorce and is explicitly called 'cruelty'.
You should not saying 'get divorce'.
Instead you should be saying, don't get married if you don't want to have sex.
No one in this world is forcing you to marry some one. it's your choice. When it;s your choice, stop being cruel to your spouse.

No one is entitled for sex. sure but marriage entitles expectation of sex. It's like a man saying, we are married but I am not entitled to provide you food, shelter, security etc...and if you get pregnant, you and our kid is NOT my responsibility.
is the man entitled to do all these things? In my opinion, he MUST.
as per you. even though he is expected to do, he does not need to do and he is still a good decent man..

What a fked up logic!!

Bro, are you even watching the drama?
No one informed the husband that she was fking another man the morning of their marriage and it's purely a business marriage with zero sex and affection.
Unless I missed something, bro, show me the scenes where the husband was informed of all these stipulations?

Oh dear, the FL does not suck.
She is a filthy kunt.
The whole she 'sucks' and is a poor thing who wants revenge, business marriage etc etc are being used to downplay the filthy kunt of a FL in the drama.

Like I said, if this man that man would be trashed even worse than what I am doing now.

let me know which part of what is shown in the drama makes the husband as toxic?

Cool, someone forgot to say all this to the ONE PERSON THAT NEEDS TO KNOW...

The husband.

He should have known about all of this.

The disgusting FL, her even more disgusting family and the villainous heinous uncle of the husband all knew FL was sucking another man dry even on the morning of the marriage.
They all lied to the poor sod who was under the impression he was actually getting married, rather than being cucked.

Again, reverse the gender and imagine if this an innocent girl who was lied to and got married to a b@stard who was shagging another women the morning and evening of the marriage.
And everyone knew except the poor girl knew that this man was a b@stard for a long time and still lied to get the girl married..

Don't make excuses for the dirty, foul, filthy kunt of the FL.
The more people try to make excuses for this wench, the worse the truth of her action come across as.

I am not abusing women. You are a liar and in these matters it's to disgusting to lie since it paints me as something I am not.

I am only abusing the FL.
Imagine this was a man instead of FL, who was fking another woman on the morning of his marriage to another innocent woman. Then deny any affection or normalcy to his newly wed wife, proceeds to cheat with his lover on his newly wed wife, I would calling that man a b@stard and an Asshole as well.
I am DAMN SURE you would be abusing such a despicable b@stard as well.

This FL in this drama is that despicable.

The fact that so many downplay, including you, what this kunt has done and want to hide behind the identity of woman is even more despicable.

you use the words like 'suck'.
No, this FL is a cheating kunt who for her own desires screwed one man and completely destroyed the man she married.
Like I said, if it were a man doing exactly the same thing FL has done, the tone and discussion about that man would be a worse than what I am calling the FL.

'everyone is taking issue at you abusing FL'.
These dramas have FL's abusing the ML in much filthier language. Stop playing holier than though when discussing dramas where the ML gets abused with words like Asshole, bastard etc etc in most dramas by the FL.

Don't complain about amnesia until you have watched 'Young Lady and Gentleman'. The ML in that one had triple amnesia and few other conditions that don't exist.

Husband caught the cheating hoe, confronted her. she probably gave him the finger and reaffirmed that she would keep sucking the other guy dry while blue balling the husband.

the slap from him and the kick from her followed.

WTF are you talking about.
Most modern countries have special rights for women.

If you got any doubts look at Ukraine, only men are being dragged to fight and die against their wishes. Women are not touched.

Denying sex is extreme cruelty.
Your logic is very similar to a rapist saying, fking wife against her wishes is not a crime.
It is a crime and on flip side denying sex is cruelty.

No one is entitled to sex but marriage comes with expectation of sex, unless before the marriage there is a contract for NO SEX.
Otherwise, you are entitled to have expectation of sex. It's not just the law but also social norm.

Look, if a kunt does not want to have sex, don't marry. Why marry and destroy the man?

Sure, the husband can dump the kunt and marry someone else. But, the woman who is denying sex is kunt. Both are true.

Finally, your last point is right.
This is usually discussed BEFORE MARRIAGE.
NOT dump on your husband AFTER MARRIAGE.

More importantly, in this case, this kunt of FL is happily fking another man, even the morning of her marriage. So, we are not talking about this case.

It's astounding to see people justifying that getting married and telling the husband that there won't be any sex is OK since the FL is a cheating KUNT.

Funnily there are kdramas where the exact same thing happens and the dramas justify public humiliation of husbands who cheated because the wife was not putting out.

Yes, even in scenario 3 the husband can get a divorce, where did I ever say he should not or cannot?

I was pointing to the fact any woman who marries and after that informs her husband she won't ever have sex & is fking another man is a KUNT.

And then I keep pointing to the fact that SEX IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF MARRIAGE.
The strange thing here is even in dating you lot are ok with sexual acts but because the FL is a cheap KUNT, you support no sex even in marriage..

Do you lot even know the meaning of word marriage and meaning of vows you take during marriage?

You know what, people can get married for any number of reasons. And if sex is not supposed to be part of it, you discuss it with your partner BEFORE MARRIAGE, not AFTER MARRIAGE.

You lot seem to intentionally pretend to be brain dead for some reason. I said even in my posts even if newly married couples have no sex it's still fine as long this was discussed before marriage.

And I repeatedly mentioned a specific scenario where the FL in this a cheating KUNT, who fked another man the night before the marriage and then goes about not having sex with her new husband.

THAT is the scenario I am talking about.

Yeah, husband can get divorce from this cruel KUNT anytime...but that still does not hide the fact that woman like these collosal KUNT's

sometimes you get a nice one.

in reality, most guys, especially if they are single, and especially if they are as good looking, rich and successful as Kdrama ML's would have shagged hundreds of women by the time they reach 20.

You seem to think just because a man is in love with a woman he won't have sex with other women.
men don't even need to like anything about a woman to have sex. They will just have it because they are horny and at young age, they will shag any woman who is willing.

If you think men are like Kdrama ML's who are aloof and don't look at women lustily, you are living in some other universe.

if any of you think there are men who are different and are like Kdrama ML's, let me bust your bubble.
All men are horn dogs. Unless they are tied in a relationship, they will fk any woman who is willing.

Another Kdrama romcom that has gone to shitters by the usual Kdrama tropes.
This one had potential but as drama progressed, the tropes are reaffirmed and reconfirmed multiple times.

It's just cringe to watch this shit as an adult.

Let's get to ML and FL characters..

ML is confirmed pure virgin who never looked at any woman except the FL. he loved her as young boy and then as adult even he did not know her identity. Basically the drama confirms ML's purity by showing us that his pecker only moved for the FL in his life.
This man never wanked, never for a moment had another woman in his mind.

The FL on the hand has no compulsions, she is now going on dates.

It's just the same crappy pure virgin ML and the same Fl who has options when it comes to men.

These characters can't seriously be written by adults at this point.
Which adults writes these same cringy ML and FL in each and every drama?!!

yard stick should be all dramas coming out of the same industry.

Isn't that how we measure how a drama is? Against other ones?
The tropes in Kdrama cutting across dramas are same, including this one.

The most important trope in each and every kdrama is -> the ML is madly in love with FL. The FL loves ML but she has other important people and things to do.
This is basically every Kdrama.

not having right away is absolutely fine and normal.
That's NOT what we are discussing or what's happening in the drama.

Not only is she not putting out for the husband, she is putting out for another guy. She is what we call a cheating kunt.

The husband may be a creep but until now there is nothing that shows the husband as nothing but a good person albeit the inability to let a cheating hoe go.

being an ass in high school is not the same as being a bad person now.

Most kids are assholes in school. That's just kids being kids.
If that is the case, ML is a bigger ass, he even beats up people, including the husband.

The problem I have is people looking at FL and coming to the conclusion that she is anything but a cheating kunt is beyond me.
If this was a man who was cheating on his newly wed wife, we would be asking for his neck.
The duplicity just because it;s a woman doing it is astounding.

there are some who keep portraying the false notion that being married to has implicit understanding that the couple become one but sex is not an implicit part of it.
The very meaning of marriage is becoming one in body and mind. While that's an ideal position which many couple strive to achieve and few actually achieve, married couples give it a try.

By default if you are marrying someone of free will, it is absolutely implied that having sex with the person you are marrying to is a basic expectation.
It is not just a position but an actual requirement in law. A marriage can exist without sex if there is an understanding but if one party expects and another does not give, it is cruelty and basis for divorce.
The law is very explicit, 'denial of sex in marriage is cruelty'. There have been comprehensive studies of what happens to the person who has been been denied sex, the trauma they go through and negative impact it has on their mental and physical health.

By default, unless explicitly agreed before marriage, ala a fake marriage where boundaries set, a marriage is an implicit agreement to have sex and procreate.
In fact the meaning of the word marriage implies 'procreation' amongst a host of other things. Unless you have sex you can't procreate.

There is no country and no social norm that blurs the meaning of marriage as an union without sex.

If anything, it's the other way around. Even dating implies sex now a days. If you are on few dates, in most scenarios you are expected to show some physical intimacy, if not outright sex, as example a kiss.

If dating expects intimacy, then marriage expects intimacy by default, especially if you are entering a marriage willingly.

This does not mean a man can force himself upon his wife, that is a crime.
It also means a wife on the day of the marriage tells his husband there will be no sex in their marriage is being cruel to the husband and possibly cheating.

Both are wrong, not just socially but also legally.

love.
History is proof that even the most badass men tend to screw themselves because of love

What blows a hole in your theory is that most romance Kdramas have CEO rich guy as the ML.
And these men are all very firm in their love for the FL in these dramas.
They don't waver, always simp for the FL even if she is with someone else etc etc. They will wait and wait and wait without ever looking at any other women.

You can build characters how ever you want.
You can make a rich heiress like the FL be madly in love with FL to the point of willing to give up everything for him, like most kdrama romance ML's do for the FL.