Did you saw her having sex with her current husband?It is clearly they never had sex from the way they act and…
There are something called 'marriage vows'. Go through them, they are not legally binding but they are promises you make to each other when getting married.
A no is a no. and denial of sex is cruelty.
You lot keep professing only one half of it, conveniently side stepping the other half.
FL lied to ML. She was living with him when she was engaged to a guy she was ok to marry for shares. Like ML said…
That's exactly what I said. You kept assuming a position I never once agreed to. You should re-read my post I made above, let me post it for you so that you stop blowing yourself.
I suspect we agree on what i suspect is your main point, which is -> no matter what, no man should touch his wife or any woman who says No. At this point any man even a husband if he forces himself is just a rapist and must be castrated and then hanged.
Let's get that out of the way.
There are 3 scenarios that happen in life
Scenario 1 -> Married couple have sex regularly and wife says no, now and then. It is perfectly fine and zero issues. Husband should back off.
Scenario 2 -> Married couple who used to have sex regularly, now completely stopped. Wife says no constantly and consistently. husband should back off. Wife as per law in most countries, including all western countries, is committing cruelty against her husband and is a perfectly valid reason for divorce. The husband now has a choice to stay put or get a divorce. Even this scenario is acceptable. Love ran it's course and the wife does not want anything to with the man. Next step is divorce or an understanding.
Scenario 3 -> Man and a woman get married and the wife on the day of the marriage gives a middle finger to the husband and says there won't be sex, ever. In this scenario, the wife is a horrible person who just destroyed the poor sods life. The poor sod should still keep his hands to himself but the fact remains that the wife in this specific scenario is a huge B and deserves to be destroyed.
Coming to the discussion, I was NOT talking about scenario 1 or scenario 2. I was talking about only scenario 3.
THAT WAS what I POSTED.
The only point I was pointing to are the responsibilities that comes with agreeing to a marriage and one of them is sex. No man should ever force himself on a woman, ever, no matter the situation. And on flip side, if you marry someone and state an hour after the marriage that there will never be sex in the marriage, you are dumb retard Ahole who destroyed your spouses life.
Marital rape is a crime Denial of sex is cruelty. Go and check, both are in legal frameworks of most countries and all western nations.
saying only one half of it is something only DUMB RETARDED people would do.
She has no regrets.Even after marriage her grandfather asked her to choose shares or ML.He even said he would…
No she did not. Grandfather gave her the offer and she declined and went back to her husband to be a part time wife and full time cheater.
The only reason I am using this language for the FL to show the reality of this character. Lot of people were pretty much mild about what FL has done and made it look it she did nothing wrong.
Sometimes, a strong language is needed to show the reality.
FL lied to ML. She was living with him when she was engaged to a guy she was ok to marry for shares. Like ML said…
Sure, there are a lot of sexless marriages in the world. And as per law denying sex is cruelty in most countries of the world and ground for divorce. Let's revisit the word 'cruelty'. but usually this happens sometime into the marriage & it's understandable. The love and marriage ran it's course and like I mentioned it's either compromise or divorce - This scenario is perfectly fine.
Most marriages start with lot of sex, then the sex starts slowing down, then trickles....
But in this drama, the sex never happens. Even saying the wife does not owe sex means you are ok with a woman being cruel to man. It's not me saying it, it's the law saying it. As per law in most countries, willingly denying sex for long periods is CRUELTY..period. The person being denied sex suffers, it's not me saying it, it's the law. You are ok with a husband being subjected to cruelty by his wife?
The husband should divorce, I agree with you, but that does not absolve the cruelty of the FL. Not only is she cruel, she is always looking for ways to fk another man being married. That's just a pathetic hoe at this point.
FL lied to ML. She was living with him when she was engaged to a guy she was ok to marry for shares. Like ML said…
I suspect we agree on what i suspect is your main point, which is -> no matter what, no man should touch his wife or any woman who says No. At this point any man even a husband if he forces himself is just a rapist and must be castrated and then hanged.
Let's get that out of the way.
There are 3 scenarios that happen in life
Scenario 1 -> Married couple have sex regularly and wife says no, now and then. It is perfectly fine and zero issues. Husband should back off.
Scenario 2 -> Married couple who used to have sex regularly, now completely stopped. Wife says no constantly and consistently. husband should back off. Wife as per law in most countries, including all western countries, is committing cruelty against her husband and is a perfectly valid reason for divorce. The husband now has a choice to stay put or get a divorce. Even this scenario is acceptable. Love ran it's course and the wife does not want anything to with the man. Next step is divorce or an understanding.
Scenario 3 -> Man and a woman get married and the wife on the day of the marriage gives a middle finger to the husband and says there won't be sex, ever. In this scenario, the wife is a horrible person who just destroyed the poor sods life. The poor sod should still keep his hands to himself but the fact remains that the wife in this specific scenario is a huge B and deserves to be destroyed.
Coming to the discussion, I was NOT talking about scenario 1 or scenario 2. I was talking about only scenario 3.
Your language is too explicit and frankly sexist. This is the 21st century and wether this is a tv character or…
This is the most insane take. You talk about a fked up FL in a drama, then it's about all women?!!
First, Go back to school.
It's shocking to see people supporting this filthy FL by equating this filth to all women, No dear, most women are nice and are not like the filthy FL.
regarding filthy language, these dramas have FL abusing ML with words like 'Ass Hole', 'b@stard', 'Son of a Bitch' etc etc..in almost every drama. So, it's par for course.
If you have problems with language, you need to start with these dramas and ensure the language is appropriate before preaching to viewers.
FL lied to ML. She was living with him when she was engaged to a guy she was ok to marry for shares. Like ML said…
Ok, let me know what do you think is the expectation when 2 people willingly marry?
I would think by default the expectation is sex. need not be on demand but the basic expectation is, both people are interested in each other and are willing to have sex.
If you have a different understanding of it, do share with us.
Again, it's perfectly fine if you want to marry and want to have ZERO sex, just let the person know BEFORE MARRYING about that very important fact.
It's a bit silly to have an argument that getting married implies green signal for willingness to have sex.
You seem to willingly ignore the main point. Yes, couples who marry sometimes don't have sex if one of them don't want to. That's normal, happens all the time and is perfectly fine. What's not normal is to get married and declare there won't be sex. If you think that is normal and right, then god bless your POV.
FL lied to ML. She was living with him when she was engaged to a guy she was ok to marry for shares. Like ML said…
You are missing the premise.
There is a difference between 'we are not having sex today' vs 'we are never having sex'.
No one should be forced to have sex, whether married or not. What's even more important is, if you don't want to have sex, don't get married. You can't be surprised if you marry and your spouse is expecting sex.
If you don't want to have sex, don't marry. Or, tell before marriage that there won't be sex. but after marrying to state ' we will never have sex', well, you just destroyed the other person's life.
the whole morality of forced sex does not remotely come into picture when you willingly marry and then tell your spouse that there won't be sex in their marriage. in that situation the person should have never married and if the marriage happens, buckle up and prepare for sex. After all, the marriage happened willingly.
FL lied to ML. She was living with him when she was engaged to a guy she was ok to marry for shares. Like ML said…
I agree with the concept of 'you do not submit to have sex when you do not want to have sex'. and that's how it should be. we are not discussing that part in the context of this drama.
Here it's a case of willingly marry and never have sex or show affection, that's completely another matter.
There is a world of difference between, 'I love you, i like you but we are not having sex today' vs 'I will never have sex with you, I only married you because of some xyz reason' and then turn around to show affection to some other person.
Again, if two people are willingly married, sex is implied. It may not have to be on demand but it also does not mean a life time of zero sex. That's not marriage and if one thinks it's ok to marry and deny a person sex for the whole of marriage, it is cruelty. Then that marriage should not have happened or the divorce must happen.
FL lied to ML. She was living with him when she was engaged to a guy she was ok to marry for shares. Like ML said…
it's the principle and basic decency of being married. If as a spouse you are denying your partner sex & affection, it's just cruelty.
It was shocking to me that so many here were casually glad that FL was not having sex with her husband. That's like the FL completely fked her husband in every sense. She does not like him, she does not have sex with her husband, she is fking another man but the husband is a creep....as per people here
You get kicked in the nuts & you willingly go and lick the ass of that same person.
yeah, you are a simp.
the wonderful thing about this is, there is not a single woman here who would suggest a woman chase a man who fked her and married another woman for money. Then the talk would be 'girl, have self respect & find another man'...
I am astonished to see so many people supporting what the FL did.
If it was a man who abandons a woman and marries another for money, then cheats on the wife he willingly married with another woman - we would be absolutely asking for his castration.
This FL does worse and it's ok since a girl needs money and dik?
this is truly some messed up thinking that this FL is an utter garbage and a piece of shit.
Some are even gleeful that she may not have had sex with her husband. What?! Since when is ok to deny the person you married sex, especially considering this kunt was spreading her legs everyday and thrice on a Saturday for another man.
there are millions of arranged marriages that happen across the world every week and they are as successful as love marriages.
its shocking to read some one say, even if its an arranged marriage that you agreed to, you have no responsibilities to your spouse!!
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The husband absolutely innocent.
The only thing he should have done is expose the kunt of the FL and kick her out of the house and hold his ground.
All Kdramas have ML crying after the FL.
would ever be ok with a woman chasing after a man who screwed her and married some other women?
Go through them, they are not legally binding but they are promises you make to each other when getting married.
A no is a no.
and denial of sex is cruelty.
You lot keep professing only one half of it, conveniently side stepping the other half.
That's DUPLICITY
That was one of the themes explored in the drama.
No one ever made ML of the drama as a paragon of virtue and sang his peons.
You kept assuming a position I never once agreed to. You should re-read my post I made above, let me post it for you so that you stop blowing yourself.
I suspect we agree on what i suspect is your main point, which is -> no matter what, no man should touch his wife or any woman who says No. At this point any man even a husband if he forces himself is just a rapist and must be castrated and then hanged.
Let's get that out of the way.
There are 3 scenarios that happen in life
Scenario 1 -> Married couple have sex regularly and wife says no, now and then. It is perfectly fine and zero issues. Husband should back off.
Scenario 2 -> Married couple who used to have sex regularly, now completely stopped. Wife says no constantly and consistently. husband should back off. Wife as per law in most countries, including all western countries, is committing cruelty against her husband and is a perfectly valid reason for divorce. The husband now has a choice to stay put or get a divorce.
Even this scenario is acceptable. Love ran it's course and the wife does not want anything to with the man. Next step is divorce or an understanding.
Scenario 3 -> Man and a woman get married and the wife on the day of the marriage gives a middle finger to the husband and says there won't be sex, ever.
In this scenario, the wife is a horrible person who just destroyed the poor sods life. The poor sod should still keep his hands to himself but the fact remains that the wife in this specific scenario is a huge B and deserves to be destroyed.
Coming to the discussion, I was NOT talking about scenario 1 or scenario 2.
I was talking about only scenario 3.
THAT WAS what I POSTED.
The only point I was pointing to are the responsibilities that comes with agreeing to a marriage and one of them is sex.
No man should ever force himself on a woman, ever, no matter the situation.
And on flip side, if you marry someone and state an hour after the marriage that there will never be sex in the marriage, you are dumb retard Ahole who destroyed your spouses life.
Marital rape is a crime
Denial of sex is cruelty.
Go and check, both are in legal frameworks of most countries and all western nations.
saying only one half of it is something only DUMB RETARDED people would do.
Grandfather gave her the offer and she declined and went back to her husband to be a part time wife and full time cheater.
The only reason I am using this language for the FL to show the reality of this character.
Lot of people were pretty much mild about what FL has done and made it look it she did nothing wrong.
Sometimes, a strong language is needed to show the reality.
I will trash him even worse.
Just making assumptions that I would not trash a similar ML is poor taste.
In fact, I trashed ML of this drama for being a pathetic wimpy simp.
The only person I have sympathies for is the poor sod of that husband.
Don't say 'if ML was like that' ever.
Just point me to a drama where the ML is like this and I will trash that character for being bad.
Again, don't mistake me trashing these characters as not liking them.
I like them and I will trash them because that's what these forums are for.
And as per law denying sex is cruelty in most countries of the world and ground for divorce.
Let's revisit the word 'cruelty'.
but usually this happens sometime into the marriage & it's understandable. The love and marriage ran it's course and like I mentioned it's either compromise or divorce - This scenario is perfectly fine.
Most marriages start with lot of sex, then the sex starts slowing down, then trickles....
But in this drama, the sex never happens.
Even saying the wife does not owe sex means you are ok with a woman being cruel to man. It's not me saying it, it's the law saying it.
As per law in most countries, willingly denying sex for long periods is CRUELTY..period.
The person being denied sex suffers, it's not me saying it, it's the law.
You are ok with a husband being subjected to cruelty by his wife?
The husband should divorce, I agree with you, but that does not absolve the cruelty of the FL.
Not only is she cruel, she is always looking for ways to fk another man being married. That's just a pathetic hoe at this point.
they were a breath of fresh from my usual consumption. Then they got stale.
But, horror, action, political and revenge genres in Kdramas shine a lot now a days.
Romance Kdramas are absolute trash compared to other genres.
usually I FF a lot of these romance Kdramas, you know exactly how most of the storylines go anyway.
You think self-respect is only for women and not for men?
Would you also suggest a woman chase after a man who screwed her and married another woman? You know, for love?
Let's get that out of the way.
There are 3 scenarios that happen in life
Scenario 1 -> Married couple have sex regularly and wife says no, now and then. It is perfectly fine and zero issues. Husband should back off.
Scenario 2 -> Married couple who used to have sex regularly, now completely stopped. Wife says no constantly and consistently. husband should back off. Wife as per law in most countries, including all western countries, is committing cruelty against her husband and is a perfectly valid reason for divorce. The husband now has a choice to stay put or get a divorce.
Even this scenario is acceptable. Love ran it's course and the wife does not want anything to with the man. Next step is divorce or an understanding.
Scenario 3 -> Man and a woman get married and the wife on the day of the marriage gives a middle finger to the husband and says there won't be sex, ever.
In this scenario, the wife is a horrible person who just destroyed the poor sods life. The poor sod should still keep his hands to himself but the fact remains that the wife in this specific scenario is a huge B and deserves to be destroyed.
Coming to the discussion, I was NOT talking about scenario 1 or scenario 2.
I was talking about only scenario 3.
You seem to offended by the word 'kunt'.
You should be.
question is, there are 10 dramas this year where the FL calls the ML 'AssHole' and 'b@stard'.
I don't see anyone offended by that?
Care to explain why?
The dramas in question are 'my dearest nemesis' and 'Potato Lab'.
FL's in both dramas call the ML an 'AssHole' and 'b@stard' in ep1.
care to comment?
You talk about a fked up FL in a drama, then it's about all women?!!
First, Go back to school.
It's shocking to see people supporting this filthy FL by equating this filth to all women,
No dear, most women are nice and are not like the filthy FL.
regarding filthy language, these dramas have FL abusing ML with words like 'Ass Hole', 'b@stard', 'Son of a Bitch' etc etc..in almost every drama.
So, it's par for course.
If you have problems with language, you need to start with these dramas and ensure the language is appropriate before preaching to viewers.
I would think by default the expectation is sex.
need not be on demand but the basic expectation is, both people are interested in each other and are willing to have sex.
If you have a different understanding of it, do share with us.
Again, it's perfectly fine if you want to marry and want to have ZERO sex, just let the person know BEFORE MARRYING about that very important fact.
It's a bit silly to have an argument that getting married implies green signal for willingness to have sex.
You seem to willingly ignore the main point.
Yes, couples who marry sometimes don't have sex if one of them don't want to. That's normal, happens all the time and is perfectly fine.
What's not normal is to get married and declare there won't be sex. If you think that is normal and right, then god bless your POV.
There is a difference between 'we are not having sex today' vs 'we are never having sex'.
No one should be forced to have sex, whether married or not.
What's even more important is, if you don't want to have sex, don't get married. You can't be surprised if you marry and your spouse is expecting sex.
If you don't want to have sex, don't marry. Or, tell before marriage that there won't be sex.
but after marrying to state ' we will never have sex', well, you just destroyed the other person's life.
the whole morality of forced sex does not remotely come into picture when you willingly marry and then tell your spouse that there won't be sex in their marriage.
in that situation the person should have never married and if the marriage happens, buckle up and prepare for sex. After all, the marriage happened willingly.
and that's how it should be.
we are not discussing that part in the context of this drama.
Here it's a case of willingly marry and never have sex or show affection, that's completely another matter.
There is a world of difference between, 'I love you, i like you but we are not having sex today'
vs
'I will never have sex with you, I only married you because of some xyz reason' and then turn around to show affection to some other person.
Again, if two people are willingly married, sex is implied. It may not have to be on demand but it also does not mean a life time of zero sex.
That's not marriage and if one thinks it's ok to marry and deny a person sex for the whole of marriage, it is cruelty.
Then that marriage should not have happened or the divorce must happen.
If as a spouse you are denying your partner sex & affection, it's just cruelty.
It was shocking to me that so many here were casually glad that FL was not having sex with her husband.
That's like the FL completely fked her husband in every sense.
She does not like him, she does not have sex with her husband, she is fking another man but the husband is a creep....as per people here
yeah, you are a simp.
the wonderful thing about this is, there is not a single woman here who would suggest a woman chase a man who fked her and married another woman for money.
Then the talk would be 'girl, have self respect & find another man'...
If it was a man who abandons a woman and marries another for money, then cheats on the wife he willingly married with another woman - we would be absolutely asking for his castration.
This FL does worse and it's ok since a girl needs money and dik?
this is truly some messed up thinking that this FL is an utter garbage and a piece of shit.
Some are even gleeful that she may not have had sex with her husband.
What?!
Since when is ok to deny the person you married sex, especially considering this kunt was spreading her legs everyday and thrice on a Saturday for another man.