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Anyone questioning the shit FL's are shown doing in Kdramas is misogyny.

Got it. After using the word basically you are trying to browbeat anyone from having any discussion on this.

The point is simple, would we as viewers be as understanding if ML was peeping on young girls being nude in their personal space?

Either you answer the question or you don't.
Rest everything is pure BS.

wow, I am not assuming her sexuality.
Unless you are reading posts made by others, it's absolutely clear I was using that as point to show FL likes men and was watching the man and NOT the woman.

All this talk of misogyny is getting old and stale, especially in Kdrama romance land.
The question is apt.
ML's in Kdramas would never be shown doing things FL's do in almost every drama.

If you think questioning FL committing pervert acts against men is misogyny, may feminism help you.

Imagine a man peeping at woman, naked lying on bed with a smile on his face & her husband was sleeping next to her.

Is the man peeping at the woman? Or both the man and the woman?
technically both but we all know he is only interested in the woman and her naked body.

Same way, the FL is interested in wanking off to the naked body of the man, she is not interested in women.
Unless I am missing something and the FL is Bi-sexual.

the FL was not peeping at the woman.
She was looking at the man. Anything thinking FL was peeping to watch the woman are really from different universe.

And yes, you are partially right that the FL violated the woman's dignity as well but the whole was pointing at a specific scenario, a horny FL looking at the body of a man with a smile on her face.

I am shocked at making light of hypothetical scenario of a ML peeping at naked body of woman with a smile on his face.
really!
There is not a single Kdrama romance in last 3 years where the ML has put his pinky wrong. Forget peeping at naked woman and waking off, these ML's pretty much don't make eye contact with any woman and keep themselves very very pure for the FL.

The smile on her face says she was,
The only reason perverts watch someone naked is to wank off. THAT is the single reason why anyone would watch someone else naked through a hole.

Sorry but where is the argument?

I am just juxtaposing a scene with ML in picture and asking what the response from audience would be?
Would the audience accept ML doing similar act the FL is shown doing? Or not?

It's a simple question with a simple answer or a simple explanation.

From my POV, the drama makes it look like FL doing these perverts sexual acts against men is perfectly fine.
So, the opposite where a ML is watching naked girls through a peep hole with a smile on his face - Would that be ok and acceptable?

Or do people here really think the same act is ok when women do it but not ok when men do it?

We get the FL peeping at naked men,
wonder how the narrative amongst viewers would be if ML was shown peeping at naked women and is shown wanking off..

ML's in Kdramas loving FL for decades and saving their pure virginity while the FL is shagging around - "What a green ML, we love him"

FL searches for ML because both love each other - "We don't want FL to ever chase ML, it's demeaning to feminism".

Clearly something seems messed up.

ML's in Kdrama romances don't have their own aspirations, lives or character arks.
They only exist for the FL. They live breathe to make the FL happy and that's about it.

See the description for the FL in this drama
and
compare it to the description for the ML...

FL want's to be a poet & the ML is pouring all his love into the FL.
WTF is this shit...in each and every Kdrama romance, same simpy wimpy dogshit ML.

This show is just a variation of the standard trope.

What is she even doing with the 2ML?
And compare that with how ML interacts with 2FL.

She practically has 2ML who she knows wants to bang her inside her behind.

regarding her history, just read the synopsis of the drama.
First love Vs Only love.

It's pretty much self explanatory at this point.
Oh yeah, the very first interaction FL has with 2ML...she asks his if she fked him before...casually.
Ever seen any ML in any Kdrama ask any woman that?

Samdal had not one but 2 men, ML and 2ML who saved their purity and virginity for the FL for decades,
all the while the FL was happily fking half a dozen men & these 2 men knew it but they still saved their purity and virginity for the FL.

kewlllll....such pure green green men.

When every Kdrama has a FL fking men & the ML is a pure virgin simp waiting decades for the FL..

What else do you expect me to comment on?

Anyhow, it's these perverted Kdramas that want their ML's to be pure virgins.
And people like you have no problems with these perverted kdrama makers but have problems with me pointing to these facts?

Are you one of them perverts who like their FL to fk around and the ML to be a pure virgin simp who only ever loved the FL?!!!

ewwwwww..

You are just providing analysis for the grotesque representation of relationship between the FL and ML in these dramas.

Imagine if cdramas always showed ML shagging multiple men, in every drama & the FL is a pure virgin who only ever loved the ML and waits for him...in every cdrama
And then people start giving reasons..

How do you think the people giving reasons for those kinds of dramas come across?

How does ML having women friends or ex-girlfriends or having sex with other women than FL make the drama not being catered to audience,
especially considering FL has male friends, ex-boyfriends and even ex-lovers in most of these dramas?

What am I missing?

Do audience's watching these dramas prefer the FL to be having fun with multiple men, while the ML is a pure virgin who only ever loved the FL and never looks at any other woman?

If so, then just say it. Why go in circles?

How can taking the worst parts of what used to happen 25 years back with ML's and assigning them to FL's now is balance?

If something is bad 25 years back, it is bad even now..

Or does it change because the gender doing the bad thing changed?

It's perverse to even think these dramas are ok.
It insults both genders.

The larger point, there is not a single ML in last 25 years who ever was like the FL's now.
The FL's are written with having experienced multiple men & the ML nevre looks at other women and only ever loved the FL

no issues with mixing genres
but you need to have a central genre, the main plot line, the main character ark of the leads that needs focus.

This one is missing that part.

So you have to go 25 years back to say since it like that then it's ok to be like this now?!!

If how ML's 25 years back is not acceptable,
how is FL's being like that now acceptable!

Bottom line in your logic is, the women watching these drama like FL who is fking around but their choice of a husband is a pure virgin man..

Does that sound right to you?

I have no issues with love triangles.
unfortunately, that is not what's happening in Cdramas and Kdramas.
It's always FL, ML and 2ML. That's a harem for the FL.

What I want is variety. NOT every drama having FL surrounded by dogs fighting for her.

The 'nice FL' is just a trope used to create the FL-2ML dynamic in Kdramas. If the FL was like the ML, then the writers can't create these shitty scenarios between FL and 2ML.
the ML is also nice but he knows how to set boundaries without being bad.

There is no woman on this earth who does not know how to set boundaries, especially with men they don't want anything to do with.

Blame the writers but the FL in these scenarios comes across as morally ambiguous, especially when in the same dramas we see ML's being absolute in their interactions with women.

Dramas like these need to pick the genre and stick with it.
What is the central genre of this drama? Romance or Scifi

Looks like group of people got together and someone pitched a drama with main leads having sex in space. And everyone is like woah, let's do it & voila we get this drama.

It's not like they could not make this good but the characters are so uninteresting.
Sorry to say but the actors seem misfit for the roles too.

How the F can you mess up Scifi!