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A fun fact for you: frotting is when men rub against each other, while frottage describes people of any gender doing that :3

pretty much everything he does to thin is nonconsensual; it's a plot demand, because if thin were like no I don't want this and phob were like oh okay gotcha I'll mind my own business then the plot wouldn't advance. but it's still awful behaviour.

also god please make them lesbians

phob is so awful wow

I agree. Frottage is so underrated and underrepresented, it's nice to see it. It also captured the frantic energy of the moment really well. I didn't love the way it was shot, though.

*frotting intensifies*

If they're bonded no, they don't cheat. But you can be in a relationship with an omega without marking them, I think. Cheating does exist in the omegaverse.

This is triggering as hell. Please don't.

I have a really bad relationship with Catholicism and I loved it. Other people in my position disliked it. The relationship with religion in this drama is very complex and people interpreted it in different ways. One thing to be aware of, is that the director is Catholic, so faith is painted in a positive light, which might be triggering for people that have religious trauma. But it can also be very healing, especially for the ones that deal with Catholic guilt. It's a series directed from a queer and religious perspective, so it's not going to portray Catholicism as negative, but it also raises very interesting questions about religion, it challenges some beliefs, it promotes a philosophy that isn't really in agreement with what the Church says as an institution. If you can keep an open mind, you should give it a try!

wtf I was not expecting the noncon

This is such a good perspective. Barth is disappointed in God, but he's not really an atheist. He's looking for a reason to believe again, in other people as well as in God. I couldn't relate completely to him because of that, which is okay, we're all different; I guess he really does believe in God after all and wants to have faith because if I fell in love with someone or started trusting others more I wouldn't become more religious.

the director is catholic, apparently; also it is their target audience, in a way, since BL is a product made to be exported in foreign countries and many have a significant catholic population. I know it was pretty successful in the philippines for example.

...I mean, many of us abandoned religion once we got independent. People aren't just what their parents make them to be. In this story they still choose faith, but it doesn't mean it's the only possible outcome. In the end keeping on believing in God is a complex, personal thing that doesn't only depend on your upbringing. I'm agnostic, other people of my age are atheist and very anti-religious; others are still Catholic. We all make our choice and there is no right one, what matters is to be able to make it as freely as possible.

We can imagine that the father is an exceptionally open-minded person. I personally know a priest who grew up in the sixties and was influenced by the cultural revolution of the seventies. He has always been very accepting of different people and is currently in his eighties. The last time we talked, he was reading The Queer Bible.

Tanrak lives in a bubble; he doesn't interact with religious people in general, only with the father and the other people at school. Also, yes, homosexuality was considered a huge sin back then, but at least in the religious institutions I've been to, people didn't talk about it much, since it was so taboo and they didn't want to encourage young people's curiosity.

With that said, I understand why you say it's too smooth: the homophobic bullies getting kicked out of school immediately, them always finding positive adult figures, and so on. That's an idealised situation, typical of that type of drama.

oh I also grew up catholic and bi and have unresolved stuff with family and religion and with living in a conservative community so I get it twin 🤍 I guess the show allowed me to understand a bit better people that still find some healing and positive in faith despite being traumatised by organised religion; which is definitely not my experience, I've been very anti-religious for most of my life. but this was an interesting exercise in trying to accept a different perspective. I did feel very uncomfortable when barth prayed though. I really dislike to see crucifixes in public spaces and I thought me and him were kind of on the same page up to that point. I guess we all project a bit with this kind of media :)

Thanks god the catholic church is homophobic, transphobic and generally sex-phobic so it can't weaponise this kind of 'positive publicity'. Anyways I get your point, but also Barth was never an atheist, he just connected god to his abusive father and it didn't feel too out of character for him to find his faith again. Can you imagine dating a catholic guy like Tanrak without believing in god yourself? It would be almost impossible. Also there's nothing wrong in believing in something because you're traumatised, it doesn't make it less valid. We all have our ways to deal with stuff. Personally I found it funny to see a hyper catholic gay married couple cuddle and flirt right in front of their mary themed house altar.

There are millions of movies and dramas representing catholicism's cruelty, this one took a different approach to it. It showed that even with well meaning, kind people around, you can still deal with a lot of guilt and religious trauma. It's okay to not feel represented by it, but it doesn't mean it's unserious or less real. My experience with catholicism was a pretty accurate mix of Tanrak's and Barth's.

I mean there was a bit of ambiguity to keep people slightly curious, but we knew it was going to be either Tanrak or Kongdech, and that GMTTV and P'Aof especially like happy endings, so I feel like they didn't care that much about shocking the viewers with some unexpected twist. It's okay to like it and it's okay to dislike it, there are many series for us to find our favourites :)

I really liked the dialogues overall but I feel like in the last episode they got a bit repetitive. And yes the ending was kind of predictable, but I guess it wasn't made to be unpredictable? Like overall Ticket to Heaven didn't feel like a series that was made to surprise the viewers, but more to allow them to see things from the character's point of view, to understand their fears and their anxieties as well as their need to be loved and accepted, and to grow and heal alongside them.

I dropped it at episode 22 because the male lead was becoming annoying, like, possessive and forward and so on. I know some people like that, don't come for me. Anyways, does he stay like that? Is it worth it to try and finish it if I'm not into that type of romance?