No proper character growth. Atleast Luke got some. But Tao didn't. So many issues with the storyline with cutdown.…
@Sweetreat I don’t think Luke “reverting” during one insecurity-triggered conflict means all his growth disappeared.
In Ep19 alone, he openly admits he missed her and wants a future with her, respects her decision to finish the Northwest project instead of ordering her back as her boss, praises her professionally in front of others, openly calls her his girlfriend, speaks to her mother as her boyfriend, and even talks about travelling together next year. Tao herself notices how much gentler he has become and says it finally feels like a real relationship.
Does he still relapse into sarcasm and harsh words when jealous or hurt? Absolutely. That is clearly his biggest unresolved flaw. Growth isn’t becoming a completely different person overnight; it’s improving and still sometimes failing.
And yes, Tao sometimes brings things up calmly. I’ll give her that. But communication isn’t only “not saying mean things.” It’s also including your partner before problems explode, being transparent, offering reassurance, and not repeatedly leaving them to discover important things afterward. That’s where I think she still has plenty of growth left.
Even in the latest conflict, after they finally explain the hug, Luke tells her he believes her and admits he came because he missed her badly. So clearly this isn’t simply “he never trusts her.”
My concern about the coming breakup is exactly this: I’m completely fine with Luke being held accountable for the horrible things he says and the insecurity he still needs to work on. What I DON’T want is the familiar drama route where all six years suddenly become entirely his fault, Tao gets positioned as morally above the relationship, and the reunion becomes Luke spending years proving himself while she never reflects on her own contribution.
They both lack communication in different ways. If only Luke is required to acknowledge that tomorrow, then that’s not balanced character growth, it’s just assigning one person the entire blame.
I still don't understand why tf would they make him like Flora. It has changed my entire view on their dynamics…
It changes the dynamic because the context matters.
I’m not saying Flora cheated on Luke or that she was responsible for Yuan Zhu developing feelings for her. She clearly didn’t reciprocate them, and their friendship may never have crossed a romantic boundary.
But Luke was repeatedly made to feel insecure about being kept outside Flora’s everyday life while she lived with another man, shared a home, a dog, routines and emotional closeness with him and now we know that man actually DID have feelings for her.
So all those times people dismissed Luke’s discomfort as irrational jealousy suddenly look a little different. He didn’t know Yuan Zhu liked her, but his sense that there was an emotional closeness he wasn’t part of wasn’t completely imaginary either.
And that’s what bothers me most about Flora: not that she had male friends, but that she integrated everyone else so naturally into her life while Luke — her boyfriend of six years — was still so compartmentalized.
You can disagree with my reaction, but reducing that to “you’re just looking for reasons to hate Flora” is avoiding the actual point.
No proper character growth. Atleast Luke got some. But Tao didn't. So many issues with the storyline with cutdown.…
She has never even realised that she's making any mistakes. Still the same from Ep1 till now. Tomorrow all blame will go onto Lu Nian and she'll breakup lol.
She's has had great growth in career and she's great with her friends. But emotionally not much with him.
Everyone commenting about Luke and Flora and here I am absolutely broken because of Sun Yuan suicide. He was such…
I still don't understand why tf would they make him like Flora. It has changed my entire view on their dynamics and now I hate Tao even more for not introducing Luke to anyone. Sun yu was a better choice.
If you see every single time he recognises his mistakes and tries to apologise and change. She has never done that lol. She's the one expecting Luke to be a mind reader
Yeah, I don’t like Flora. I admire her work ethic, but that’s about it. She’s good to her roommates, but…
Careful, don’t say that too loudly 😂 you’ll get bashed here.
But honestly, I think this is a recurring pattern with Tao. Even with her ex, she later admits she blamed him for not coming to Beijing while she was focused on her own career. With Luke, we keep seeing a similar pattern of expecting the other person to understand her priorities, while not always considering how her choices affect them.
What annoys me is how some people are willing to analyse every flaw Luke has, while Tao is almost treated with moral superiority.
I really dislike Flora if I’m being honest. She doesn’t have proper boundaries with the opposite sex—visiting…
I get what you mean. Every time this comes up, people immediately say “but Luke hugged his childhood friend too.” Fine. if you think that was wrong, then call that wrong too.
But Tao has had multiple situations that would obviously make a partner uncomfortable: meeting her ex without telling Luke beforehand, letting that situation become physically intimate while she was drunk, being extremely close with her roommate after Luke had already expressed insecurity about where he stands, etc.
You can explain every individual incident, and this hug may genuinely have just been her comforting a grieving friend. But the bigger issue for me is the pattern.
Throughout the drama, Luke has repeatedly felt like he only occupies one small corner of Tao’s life. He wants emotional security and reassurance that he actually matters as her partner, yet he often feels like the “weekend boyfriend” while the people she lives and works with are much more integrated into her everyday life.
That doesn’t mean Tao can’t have male friends or comfort them. And Luke absolutely has to control his jealousy better. But knowing your partner has a particular insecurity and repeatedly behaving in ways that reinforce it without properly addressing the underlying problem isn’t great relationship behaviour either.
The more i think about itSo you see your gf of 6 years with her roomate and close friend hugging and crying and…
I actually agree that in THIS particular scene, Luke jumping straight to jealousy was unfair. Seeing two close friends hugging and crying shouldn’t automatically mean cheating, and ideally his first thought should’ve been “what happened?”
But I also think people keep treating Luke’s insecurity like it appeared out of nowhere.
For years, he has felt like he occupies a very limited part of Tao’s life. For a long time their relationship stayed secret, she kept large parts of her personal life separate from him, and he often felt more like a weekend boyfriend than someone fully included in her world. So yes, by this point he is insecure about where he stands with her.
That insecurity is still HIS responsibility to manage, but please don’t say Tao has absolutely nothing to do with the emotional environment that created it. Relationship security is built by both people.
And the “they’ve known each other for six years” argument goes both ways. Luke should know Tao well enough not to immediately assume the worst, but Tao also knows Luke well enough to understand what repeatedly makes him feel excluded or unimportant.
So yes, Luke was wrong in this scene. But reducing everything to “he doesn’t trust his girlfriend after six years” ignores six years of unresolved insecurity and poor communication from BOTH sides.
You said the quiet part out loud 😂Tbh I was hesitant to put it that bluntly.But that’s also why I don’t…
Exactly. I'm thinking the same. They will never even make her acknowledge the flaws she has. Only Luke will be the one made to win her back Lol. Cdrama never fails to make the ML a simp 😂
I said this before and I’ll say it again: this could’ve been a vertical drama with a premium budget and 24 episodes. Lol 😭
Same toxic-romance template:
ML starts off as a jerk → full-on physical intimacy → slowly falls hard for FL → FL mostly goes along with it → ML does/says something idiotic → FL misunderstands him / trust collapses → FL disappears without a trace → only blame ML → years pass → ML is still stuck on her → they cross paths again → ML enters full on simp mode while FL acts cold → chase/chase/chase → reconciliation → happy ending.
The only classic vertical-drama ingredient missing is that when she disappears, she isn’t secretly pregnant with his child. 😂
I don’t think Luke “reverting” during one insecurity-triggered conflict means all his growth disappeared.
In Ep19 alone, he openly admits he missed her and wants a future with her, respects her decision to finish the Northwest project instead of ordering her back as her boss, praises her professionally in front of others, openly calls her his girlfriend, speaks to her mother as her boyfriend, and even talks about travelling together next year. Tao herself notices how much gentler he has become and says it finally feels like a real relationship.
Does he still relapse into sarcasm and harsh words when jealous or hurt? Absolutely. That is clearly his biggest unresolved flaw. Growth isn’t becoming a completely different person overnight; it’s improving and still sometimes failing.
And yes, Tao sometimes brings things up calmly. I’ll give her that. But communication isn’t only “not saying mean things.” It’s also including your partner before problems explode, being transparent, offering reassurance, and not repeatedly leaving them to discover important things afterward. That’s where I think she still has plenty of growth left.
Even in the latest conflict, after they finally explain the hug, Luke tells her he believes her and admits he came because he missed her badly. So clearly this isn’t simply “he never trusts her.”
My concern about the coming breakup is exactly this: I’m completely fine with Luke being held accountable for the horrible things he says and the insecurity he still needs to work on. What I DON’T want is the familiar drama route where all six years suddenly become entirely his fault, Tao gets positioned as morally above the relationship, and the reunion becomes Luke spending years proving himself while she never reflects on her own contribution.
They both lack communication in different ways. If only Luke is required to acknowledge that tomorrow, then that’s not balanced character growth, it’s just assigning one person the entire blame.
I’m not saying Flora cheated on Luke or that she was responsible for Yuan Zhu developing feelings for her. She clearly didn’t reciprocate them, and their friendship may never have crossed a romantic boundary.
But Luke was repeatedly made to feel insecure about being kept outside Flora’s everyday life while she lived with another man, shared a home, a dog, routines and emotional closeness with him and now we know that man actually DID have feelings for her.
So all those times people dismissed Luke’s discomfort as irrational jealousy suddenly look a little different. He didn’t know Yuan Zhu liked her, but his sense that there was an emotional closeness he wasn’t part of wasn’t completely imaginary either.
And that’s what bothers me most about Flora: not that she had male friends, but that she integrated everyone else so naturally into her life while Luke — her boyfriend of six years — was still so compartmentalized.
You can disagree with my reaction, but reducing that to “you’re just looking for reasons to hate Flora” is avoiding the actual point.
She's has had great growth in career and she's great with her friends. But emotionally not much with him.
Sun yu was a better choice.
https://kisskh.at/761231-zao-chun-qing-lang#comment-27423648
But honestly, I think this is a recurring pattern with Tao. Even with her ex, she later admits she blamed him for not coming to Beijing while she was focused on her own career. With Luke, we keep seeing a similar pattern of expecting the other person to understand her priorities, while not always considering how her choices affect them.
What annoys me is how some people are willing to analyse every flaw Luke has, while Tao is almost treated with moral superiority.
But Tao has had multiple situations that would obviously make a partner uncomfortable: meeting her ex without telling Luke beforehand, letting that situation become physically intimate while she was drunk, being extremely close with her roommate after Luke had already expressed insecurity about where he stands, etc.
You can explain every individual incident, and this hug may genuinely have just been her comforting a grieving friend. But the bigger issue for me is the pattern.
Throughout the drama, Luke has repeatedly felt like he only occupies one small corner of Tao’s life. He wants emotional security and reassurance that he actually matters as her partner, yet he often feels like the “weekend boyfriend” while the people she lives and works with are much more integrated into her everyday life.
That doesn’t mean Tao can’t have male friends or comfort them. And Luke absolutely has to control his jealousy better. But knowing your partner has a particular insecurity and repeatedly behaving in ways that reinforce it without properly addressing the underlying problem isn’t great relationship behaviour either.
Boundaries and reassurance have to go both ways.
But I also think people keep treating Luke’s insecurity like it appeared out of nowhere.
For years, he has felt like he occupies a very limited part of Tao’s life. For a long time their relationship stayed secret, she kept large parts of her personal life separate from him, and he often felt more like a weekend boyfriend than someone fully included in her world. So yes, by this point he is insecure about where he stands with her.
That insecurity is still HIS responsibility to manage, but please don’t say Tao has absolutely nothing to do with the emotional environment that created it. Relationship security is built by both people.
And the “they’ve known each other for six years” argument goes both ways. Luke should know Tao well enough not to immediately assume the worst, but Tao also knows Luke well enough to understand what repeatedly makes him feel excluded or unimportant.
So yes, Luke was wrong in this scene. But reducing everything to “he doesn’t trust his girlfriend after six years” ignores six years of unresolved insecurity and poor communication from BOTH sides.
Cdrama never fails to make the ML a simp 😂
Same toxic-romance template:
ML starts off as a jerk → full-on physical intimacy → slowly falls hard for FL → FL mostly goes along with it → ML does/says something idiotic → FL misunderstands him / trust collapses → FL disappears without a trace → only blame ML → years pass → ML is still stuck on her → they cross paths again → ML enters full on simp mode while FL acts cold → chase/chase/chase → reconciliation → happy ending.
The only classic vertical-drama ingredient missing is that when she disappears, she isn’t secretly pregnant with his child. 😂