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Replying to KasuMi_LoVeR Nov 12, 2023
I'm laughing about at some comments claiming that 1) "because mokha was on an island for 15 years, it's normal…
Pls no one said Mokha is autistic, and the autistic community is not being harmed.

Young-woo and Mokha are both quirky. That's their similarity, NOT autism. Non-autistic people can be quirky too. It's just like how social anxiety could be a characteristic of autism, but not all autistic people have social anxiety, and not all socially anxious people are autistic.

Please stop putting words in our mouths. If you can't see the obvious difference between Young-woo and Mokha (ie autism) despite their similarities, you shouldn't come online to accuse others of being insulting.
On Castaway Diva Nov 12, 2023
So I've seen comments of how present day Mokha is too OTT and childish and she didn’t behave like that in the past, but I think the discord between both versions of Mokha is deliberate because she SPENT 15 YEARS IN ISOLATION.

Social behaviour is learned and influenced, and 15 years is a long time. She, a social butterfly, had no one but herself to talk to for 15 years. I was isolated for 7 days and had full, exaggerated conversations with the walls of my room. I had a phone and social media; Mokha had only herself and a seagull to talk to. That scene in episode 4 when she was talking exaggeratedly while eating? Imagine how many times she might’ve had such conversations (with herself, with the trees, with the air) just so she couldn’t die of boredom. She had to entertain herself in some way, her quirky traits (which kept her sane) became ingrained.

Her emotional maturity might have developed, but her behavioural development was regressive. Honestly speaking, her OTT isn't OTT-ing enough; I'm surprised she doesn't have a mood or an erratic personality disorder. Isolation drives people insane, she could've been running on the streets talking to insects and monkeys. But all she does is behave childish and viewers still throw a fuss about it.

Developed behavior from being isolated for 15 years is why Mokha is eccentric. Her behaviour is quirky and weird, her speech is exaggerated and her dialect stronger, her movement is odd, and she comes off as childish.

Sounds familiar? Yes. Because I could as well be describing Woo Young-woo. There is a similarity between Mokha and Young-woo because both are VERY similar characters played by the same actress.

"PEB is portraying Mokha as the non-autistic version of Young-woo." Well, maybe it is because Mokha IS the non-autistic version of Young-woo lol. Their quirks are similar bc the characters are similar. Both have the fish-out-of-water trope (narwhal in a pod of belugas, as YW would say), both behave odd socially, Young-woo because she's autistic, Mokha social skills stilted due to disuse. Eunbin played autistic, quirky Young-woo and eccentric quirky Mokha back-to-back, so ofc their quirks are going to be similar. But similar doesn't mean the same.

I see Young-woo in Mokha sometimes too, but I recently watched a clip of Young-woo and was surprised by how different she was from Mokha. "The acting is the same", yet if you put those characters side by side, there are clear differences, even in the vocal pacing and pitch.

If anything ruins my watching experience, it'll be the writing, not the acting. PEB is nailing Mok-ha's eccentricity to perfection. Argue with the wall.
On Extraordinary Attorney Woo Aug 24, 2022
Seems like the director, production team and actors of EAW are all rooting for S2... except Park Eun-bin.

In her interview, it was clear just how big of a physical and emotional toll acting as YW had on her. She talked about the pressure she faced, the studying and research she had to do, the doubts she overcame. Memorising YW's lines was really stressful and made her feel lonely. She was very close to a burnout. She was very careful not to fall sick and ate her lunches in the car because of the huge responsibility. But she's satisfied with her portrayal of YW, and has YW locked up in a treasure chest. Reopening that chest would need even more determination, as she'd have to meet people's high expectations.

Two years would have passed by then. The public's love is fleeting. S2 could go either right or horribly wrong. Acting as YW the first time around was stressful, and she "DOESN'T WANT TO GO BACK."

I think them announcing a S2 was a ploy to pressure her even further. Afterall, they didn't stop at nothing to make her take on the role of YW originally. Now, almost everybody wants a S2 ... except her. Pressure, pressure, lots of pressure.

PEB doesn't even seem that eager to lap up her success. All she wants is to take a break and go on a vacation. These guys should let her be. It's not like EAW actually needs another season. It ended just fine.

And if it does have S2, then i hope it's because PEB really wants to do it, not because she's pressured by the business-focused team.
On Extraordinary Attorney Woo Aug 19, 2022
It's saddening that you finish watching this drama where the message is to be accommodating of other people's differences, but you still can't accept the fact that others would feel differently about a show than you do.

This applies to BOTH those who like the drama and those who don't.

For the EAW lovers, it's understandable that you are quick to defend the show. I am, too. But don't label those who disagree with you as haters. They're just expressing their opinions (most times respectfully). As much as i love EAW, I admit that it has flaws. Those flaws don't affect my rating, but for others, IT DOES. And that's okay. Their critiques are as valid as your praises. You can't force someone into liking a show.

For those who didn't like the show or dont understand the hype, please don't try to shame us for loving EAW. This show gave me so much joy and warmth these past weeks. Words can't describe how much impact it's had on my life. So it hurts when I call it a masterpiece (because in my eyes, it is) then someone interprets that as me being delusional, fantasitical, dumb or lacking logic. You can disagree without being condescending and rude. I try to be open to other viewpoints, but it's hard to do so when people downplay mine. Please stop trying to manipulate someone out of liking a show.

If there's any need to argue, be respectful while doing so. Most of us here are adults. Not everyone has to agree with the same thing. Diversity makes the world beautiful. State your views respectfully, and respect others' too.
On Extraordinary Attorney Woo Aug 19, 2022
People need to STOP invalidating my love for this drama, okay?

Fine, you don't view it as a masterpiece. But I DO. And others do. And that's okay. It doesn't mean I have bad taste or I get easily pleased. It doesn't mean I lack critical thinking. It doesn't mean I didn't notice the flaws in EAW. I did, and it upset me too. But as much as i acknowledge them, i choose to overlook most of them. Because of how good the drama made me feel.

People in the comments be really attacking those who were satisfied with the ending. The hype is real and the ratings are high because others LIKED EAW, regardless of its weaknesses.

Do I really need to explain why i love EAW? Do i need people to judge me as shallow for loving EAW? So I can't freely love a show without people feeling butthurt about it? Opinions are welcome. But if you aren't satisfied, please stop being condescending to those who are.

You don't understand why the drama is hyped? Fine. You don't need to. Just respect and stop undermining others opinions and move on.
Replying to Aramintai Aug 18, 2022
That cat analogy was inappropriate to autistic people and lame. But that whole break-up drag was lame to begin…
The cat analogy was originally said by Kang Tae-oh when he was describing the relationship between YW×JH as a person who takes out a cat on a walk. Most people didn't seem to like the comparison, but there's an autistic person on Tumblr who did.

https://kay-tf-volution.tumblr.com/post/690909903846555648/on-jun-ho-walking-cats-safety-nets-and-disabled

A qoute from it says, "As autistic people, we talk about how people have higher support needs, and how they may have higher support needs at different times. What I read in this comment is that Kang Tae-oh and Yoo In-sik both see that Young-woo is a person who, at times, needs that support. Needing support isn’t the same as being a burden. And they see Jun-ho as a person who can offer support only when it’s necessary, meaning that Young-woo continues to navigate the world and grow on her own terms.

"I think it’s sweet, and kind, and one of the more realistic comments about disabled relationships I’ve seen."
Replying to Aramintai Aug 18, 2022
Some of you guys are so easy to please, lol. This show started very promisingly but barely delivered anything…
I don't think us liking the ending makes us 'easy to please.' We just see it from a different angle than you. You make it seem like we have no taste for being satisfied with the ending.

I know that opinions may differ, and i agree with somethings you mentioned, but your tone seems a little condescending. You didn't get back up from your disappointment. Fine. But others did, and that's fine too.
Replying to bluesky10100 Aug 18, 2022
Really surprised about some rating of 10’s and the reviews. come on. It’s not any close to any series which…
It may not be a ten for you, but for others who could resonate deeply with the characters and storyline, those who felt represented by YW, and those who found joy in seeing her grow, it's more than a 10. The hype is real because lots of people loved the show.

Also, the dramas you mentioned have a completely different genre and premise than EAW. Those are plot-heavy shows; EAW is lighter and more character-based. Might explain why you didn't like it as much as most did.
On Extraordinary Attorney Woo Aug 15, 2022
The writer of EAW, Moon Ji-won, said this about why she thinks the JH×YW loveline is essential:

"For Young-woo, whose autism makes her focus on herself and her inner world, I thought that an essential part of growing up would be to love and invite another person into her world, and keep pace with them. So I thought a love story was essential, but I had a lot of trouble figuring out how to include it.

"In the first half, they share precious and commemorative moments, like the revolving door scene, and others you will see in the future. If the first half is all about fluttering feelings and how they fall for each other, the second half will reveal deeper concerns. Young-woo will consider what it means for an autistic person to be with someone, and Jun-ho will consider what it means to love a woman with a disability."

She also said that there was an initial objection to her including the Tae Su-mi storyline because it would be such a cliché in a "fresh, innovative drama." I sometimes wish that they had decided to cut that part out. But I still love the drama nonetheless.
On Extraordinary Attorney Woo Aug 14, 2022
Young-woo and Jun-ho are going to end up together, okay? I don't know why most people are thinking that they aren't. The direction of this drama is entirely different from 2521. Unlike 2521, YW×JH not being endgame would have no purpose in the drama. It would rather fuel the (wrong) message that disabled people can't be invlove or find love, which is against the message of EAW.

Their breakup might help them see tbat they need to work on communication and understanding for their relationship to work. They still love each other. Also, marriage has been hinted so many times. Attorney Jung told JH to fight for his love. There's two episodes left, which is enough time for there to be a resolution.

The drama's premise was that YW, as an autist, would learn to invite Jun-ho into her world. She hasn't fully invited him in ... yet. But she will. I know that she will.
Replying to Tokkiya Aug 14, 2022
In the previous few episodes, Youngwoo said she wanted to behave and be treated like an adult. I really thought…
I agree. I'm kinda hoping that YW takes the first step in mending the relationship. Or even if she doesn't, she could admit (either to herslef or to JH) that she's struggling to open up to him, but she's going to try to make it work.
On Extraordinary Attorney Woo Aug 12, 2022
Everyone seems disappointed with Eps 13 and 14. My disappointment, hwoever, lies in the fact that we have only 2 eps left and Park Eun-bin and Kang Tae-oh haven't had a photoshoot or pictorial together. Like are we really gonna waste those visuals😭😭😭

Most shows have photoshoots before airing. I think EAW team didn't expect the drama to blow, which is why they didn't have one. And Tae-oh is going to the military soon so there's little hope of a future photoshoot (Re: My Liberation Notes).
On Extraordinary Attorney Woo Aug 12, 2022
JH getting angry at YW was an emotion long overdue. In that moment, it did seem that YW viewed him as a joke. No matter how many times they had talked about dating, there was never a definitive conclusion about their relationship.

From his POV, they've been dating for months now. But YW says, "I don't think we should date," and it's as if all he had been doing these past months was compelling her be in a relationship with him.

She really loves him, but with other emotions she feels, it's hard for her to show it. And JH who takes everything at face value couldn't see that. He couldn't see just how much discrimination affects her. He couldn't see just how much she loves him.

With the way she walked out, it felt like she was dismissing him. And then he got angry, and he yelled.

YW sprang back, because she's never seen JH yell at her or anyone. She was hurting even before verbalized the breakup, but now she sees that she's not the only one hurting. He's angry, he's in despair, he's desperate, he's confused, he's sad. Their lack of communication and understanding had never been so glaringly obvious, and with YW's internalised ableism, there was bound to be a breaking point.

I'm VERY sure that they're going to be endgame, but imo they really needed that breakup.
Replying to vivalf Aug 11, 2022
The DG and WYW bff greeting is soooo popular now, all over social media. This is gonna be one of the major takeaways…
I was so happy to see them do it again in Ep 13. One of my favorite moments
Replying to Mir Aug 11, 2022
if they do i don’t think it will be prolonged for too long based on the preview for ep 14. i tried to come up…
Omg yes i rewatched the preview at ×0.5 speed (while pausing) and he was near her house. Maybe it's after the phone call she had (presumably) with him about not being able to make him happy and then he just goes to see her.

I reasoned that he might not have been able to say anything at the beach scene because it was really tense and emotional. YW also rides the convertible back to the airport. She looks sad there, so the issue btw them probably wasn't resolved. And then, when they're back home and JH gets a push, he takes a stand for his relationship.

I'm definitely not buying into those Boston and time skip theories right now so like you I'm just trying to reassure myself that they don't break this up.
On Extraordinary Attorney Woo Aug 11, 2022
I don't have a problem with the newly introduced plot points. It's the way they are (or will be) handled that's the defining factor.

1. I had seen YW calling off the relationship from a mile away. People always make her feel less than, and ofc it would affect her and JH's relationship.
I just don't want a huge breakup. A mini separation is fine. But there shouldn't be a time skip and then we see them together at the end of Ep 16. Nuh-uh. I want to see them grow past this rocky stage together. As a team. Please. JH sweetie do smth.

2. The show has been aiming at the SY×MW pairing from the start. I just don't like how villainous Min-woo became in later eps. He needs to change FIRST before being with SY. And he should def apologize to YW.

3. Attorney Jung's storyline is def realistic, but I don't like how it was introduced so late in the show. Especially when there are a lot of loose ends to be tied. If he dies, i hope it doesn't happen in the drama, because I wouldn't enjoy the ending as much. I don't want realism. I still haven't watched the remaining parts of Crash Landing On You bcoz of what happened at the beginning of Ep 16 (If yk, yk)

I'm sure our whale couple would be endgame. I mean, Park Eun-bin said that Ep 16 is her favorite, so that is something positive, right? And Tae-oh described JH as the man who'd stay beside YW.

But its just 3 episodes left, and unless they increase the ep length, I don't see how they can resolve the Tae Su-mi stuff, other characters storylines, and YW's growth and loveline without rushing the ending.
Replying to nosnoop Aug 10, 2022
Latest Neflix global weekly (Aug 1 to Aug 7) streaming numbers:EAW#1 TV Show Non-English, 67 million hours#2 overall…
How did you get this data please? I've checked but i haven't seen any good source
On Extraordinary Attorney Woo Aug 5, 2022
Apparently, Korean men are appalled by the 'blatant feminism' in ep 12 and claim that the the show 'demonises men', is 'anti-men' and that the writer is making women seem weak and men seem evil. http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2022/08/male-viewers-whine-about-overt-themes.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&m=1

Like wow.

A writer who wrote one of the best single dads ever to exist in kdrama land. A writer who crafted the most perfect male lead ever. A writer who made most men in the show lovable. A drama that has no single weak female character.

It's worse seeing them argue that all the villains in the drama are men. Like really? They haven't seen Tae Sumi? THEY HAVEN'T SEEN TAE SU-MI? Isn't the most manipulative antagonist in EAW a woman? Doesnt CEO Han seem to have some sketchy intentions too? Some men just have the most fragile egos. Why don't they go and watch a show that feeds their inner masculinity? Why get triggered by a drama that lifts up women?

I would always say that the problem doesn’t lie with the drama; it lies in people. We have ONE of the few shows with a titular, relatable, STRONG heroine, ONE episode centered on STRONG women, ONE drama that allows women to feel seen and represented, ONE drama written by a woman to uplift other women, and men just have to feel butthurt about it.

Kudos to Moon Ji-won for showcasing it despite the sexist country she lives in. Definitely writer of the year!
Replying to nosnoop Aug 3, 2022
Where? There are a variety of opinions among Korean autistic community as well.You sound as if every autistic…
If an autist says this show is ableist, that is ONE autist saying this show is ableist. A lot of other korean autists like this drama.

With your comment, you're actually invalidating those who feel represented by this show.
It's okay to not watch it. It's a personal decision. But you shouldn't attack those who decide to watch it. Respect is mutual.
Replying to Stardust Aug 2, 2022
Im thinking of watching this but I'm worried about how the people in the autism spectrum will be shown... Like…
You could check the discussions above, especially the episodic feedbacks written by an autist. In general, the reviews by those on the spectrum have been mostly positive.