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Replying to dlwrma Jan 5, 2022
this comment is on point.. i can say that you really didnt skip any part of it.. some commenter here feels like…
Thanks!
Replying to DramaAndCandy Jan 5, 2022
Not sure why you think ML's character is more nuanced than JU when he barely steps out of his bubble of laziness…
Thanks for this response. It has provided much more clarity on why you think as such, and I believe now justifies your original response to OP.
Replying to DramaAndCandy Jan 5, 2022
Not sure why you think ML's character is more nuanced than JU when he barely steps out of his bubble of laziness…
But you are. You're drawing comparisons between CW and JW, claiming JW is a more nuanced character through putting down CW. You draw conclusions such as JW is more nuanced than CW because CW is lazy and is only good at drawing, but further explain about how his art is emotionless. So is he good at drawing or is his art all emotionless. Or are you arguing that his drawing is good but emotionless, when characters in the story seem to find emotion (NJ) and beauty in his drawings (NJ and all others who went to the popup)? It just seems that these claims are not necessary in proving that JW is more nuanced. Rather through the conflicts each character face it can be made somewhat clear that JW may have more of a developed character. (JW faces romantic, identity, family conflicts, whereas CW faces more of a romantic conflict)
Replying to chopchopcoy Jan 5, 2022
Everything you said above, thank you for mentioning every little details of their growth đź’Ż Also if i may mention,…
Completely agree! :)
Replying to DramaAndCandy Jan 5, 2022
Not sure why you think ML's character is more nuanced than JU when he barely steps out of his bubble of laziness…
If you are arguing about the premise of the story, it doesn't make much sense. This is how the story is set up.
Replying to DramaAndCandy Jan 5, 2022
Not sure why you think ML's character is more nuanced than JU when he barely steps out of his bubble of laziness…
Although I don't fully agree with OP, I don't think what you have typed in this response fully backs up your claim. I think instead of shitting on CW it is more helpful to compare the two characters. I like the way that you paint JW as one who is selfless and accommodating. Both CW and JW face internal conflict revolving around their feelings for YS. But JW has to to take it a step further to accommodate CW. On top of that, he faces other conflicts surrounding family and identity.

*Art part feels subjective. What you feel as no emotion could be plenty of emotion for another person? Building does not equal to no emotion is what I'm trying to say.
Replying to chopchopcoy Jan 5, 2022
Everything you said above, thank you for mentioning every little details of their growth đź’Ż Also if i may mention,…
I completely agree with how CW unlocked YS. I love the way that you mention YS's changes in her workplace, and how that is contrasted by Mr.Jang's character. (so insightful!) However, I do think that both YS and CW don't completely notice the changes in each other. An example of YS is surprisal of CW's seriousness in drawing. YS had only met the full of expression, playful CW but not other aspects. Similarly, like you have mentioned CW has not noticed all the changes in YS as well. I think that it is a mutual misunderstanding of changes in both characters that is driving the current plot!

Thanks for the cool insight!
On Our Beloved Summer Jan 4, 2022
Title Our Beloved Summer Spoiler
JW describes CW as a character that what unlocked through YS. In one of the episodes JW describes CW as one who is unsmiling and not as expressive. Through dating YS, CW becomes this person who is full of expression. YS, as a result, is one if not the biggest factor in changing CW. Through breakup, CW had a disastrous time. Turning to drawing as a coping method but also as a method of expression. (This is supported through the different folders of drawings highlighting different periods of time, namely the black folder containing drawings from “that cursed time” otherwise implied as after the breakup). Modern day CW is not full of physical expression despite the changes he underwent through dating YS. His method of expression since the breakup seems to come from 2 things, 1 his drawing and from 2 from his interactions with YS. Through the reintroduction of YS into his life, we recognize that CW becomes angry, frustrated, sad, but also happy. Otherwise, CW lives a fairly expressionless life, he is one who doesn’t engage with others, tries to keep his identity unknown and keeps his life fairly risk free and monotone. YS, with the first introduction of the project brings about a rollercoaster that flips this expressionless lifestyle around. CW does a face reveal, kisses YS and etc.

YS is a similar character. In the 10 things that CW says he hates about YS, one is that he is the only person she would show a soft side to. CW was a character that also unlocked characteristics of YS that did not seem possible. YS was one who planned their first trip, stood up for people other than her grandma and herself and etc…

The question now is whether or not YS is deserving of CW. Although it is fair to say that YS was stubborn, inflexible, egoistic and selfish in the way she dumped CW. While it is also fair to say that it is within CW’s right to not want to undergo the risk of pain that he felt before, it is largely unfair to conclude that these two and their stories aren’t naturally compatible for each other.

Understanding YS and maybe her reason for breakup

YS is not an entirely loveable character in the story and possess her own fair share of flaws, which leads to conflict that is currently present in the story. YS however, is one who underwent a lot of pain. Her definition of success was never to become rich or famous, but in order to solve current problems and to have enough (as evident in her and CW’s conversation about dreams). She was always burdened with the problems of her family members and had felt the responsibility to take care of her grandmother as well. For YS, “enough” was the dream.

Contrasting YS is CW, who is a character who had lots of affection and support from family growing up. CW did not have to face the worries or problems YS did because of his support from his family.

In YS and CW’s breakup, YS describes her reason for breakup as selfish (revealed not during the breakup but a while later). This was entirely true, but her reason was directly because of burdens that were not in her control. CW, if we remember changed YS similar to how YS changed CW. In YS’s eyes CW is her “one weakness” that she had control over and hence it was “the one thing she could give up.” All her other weaknesses were things she had no control over. For her, in order to gain her dream of “enough” she had to solve the weaknesses that she had no control of, and part of doing that is to take control of what she did have, resulting in the breakup. Although this is not an excuse for the break up (nor do I think that she should have), it does give light into the decision making that comes behind wanting to breakup with someone that you love.

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