selia101

I think we're going in circles now because you're asking me to explain something the show itself never explains. You're saying, “How else could Shawn make someone look that much like Fei Foon? Did he clone him?” But that's the exact assumption I've been pointing out. Why are we assuming Shawn had to create the resemblance through surgery in the first place? Naturally occurring lookalikes exist. Unrelated people can have remarkably similar facial features and builds. Jessica Chastain and Bryce Dallas Howard are one well known example. That doesn't mean they are identical, obviously, but it shows that two unrelated people can look surprisingly similar without one being extremelysurgically altered to resemble the other.

There's also another important point whichs Shawn didn't need a literal physical copy of Fei Foon. He needed a decoy. The purpose of the body was to make Vincent believe Fei Foon was dead so that Shawn and Fei Foon could leave the country.

Could you still think the whole setup is contrived? Absolutely. That's a fair opinion. But that's different from saying the show has established that Shawn must have found a man years in advance and surgically transformed him into an exact copy of Fei Foon. I'm not claiming to know exactly how Shawn obtained the decoy. I'm saying the show doesn't tell us, and therefore your particular explanation isn't the only possible one.

At this point, I think we've exhausted the point you find the setup too contrived, i don't think the information we're given makes it an actual plot hole. We can agree to disagree on how believable the setup is.

I think you're assuming a lot of things that the show never actually tells us. The show never says Shawn found a random man, paid him, and had him undergo years of plastic surgery until he became an exact copy of Fei Foon. That's your interpretation of how the body must have been created. We simply aren't given those details.

What we do know is that Shawn had been planning things for a long time and he had the obsession, money, time and resources to do so. He knew about Fei Foon and Vincent, admitted that he came back to Hong Kong because of Fei Foon, and had already been interfering with Vincent before the body was staged.

The story also spans a long enough period that Shawn having a plan involving a lookalike isn't impossible within the show's own timeline. How he got the lookalike is still up in the air.

I don't think the “perfect copy” argument works either. The body wasn't a perfect copy. Vincent eventually noticed the scar and that exposed the deception. Noting that the scar was the most obvious difference given their history but i’m quite sure if Vincent wasn’t blinded by grief, he would have noticed other details. So the fact that there was a physical difference is actually consistent with how there’s no such thing as a perfect copy.

I'm not saying this is realistic in real life. I'm saying the show never established the very specific scenario you're objecting to. You can absolutely think the whole idea is too unrealistic or convenient, but that's different from saying the show requires Shawn to have found an identical man years in advance and completely recreated Fei Foon through surgery.

In Episode 8, Shawn makes it clear he’s been aware of Fei Foon’s relationship with Vincent. He also admits coming back to Hong Kong simply for Fei Foon. Something to note is that we are first introduced to Shawn in Episode 2 when he kills Vincent’s Uncle. From that moment you can tell he’s been tryin to mess with Vincent and his company for Fei Foon. He himself admits it. The timeline of the show takes place over two years (Fei Foon and Vincent are in a 6-months benefits relationship as at Episode 1, they go off and on then Fei Foon disappears for a year in Episode 6) For someone like Shawn who has been biding his time, messing with Vincent and trying to separate him from Fei Foon, i don’t know but I think having a doppelgänger waiting in the wings is believeable. Especially if it’s something that’s been in the works for a year or two.

If you don’t live in Hong Kong, but have a China Town in your location, you can get it from a bakery. I know that’s what I did.

Yes, Leo and Sing have confirmed it on different livestreams

Kingston said there will be no special episode

it’s a happy ending

Gosh I went through such a range of emotions watching episode 9. Had to keep pausing to pull myself together. Glad Fei Foon got his happy ending. As for you Vincent, you better treat him right.

Just saw the preview for Episode 9. Let’s face it guys, we’re not get a happy ending. We’ll be lucky if we get an open ending

I’m surprised by myself that I didn’t get swayed by his looks. I’m a typical face con but in this case, Vincent supremacy!!!! Hahaha! I just kept thinking get this psycho off my screen.

I think preference is a personal thing. For me I would say I love the plot and romance. I also really like the main characters Fei Foon and Vincent. I would encourage you to give it a go. You can check out the Review section if you want more details or spoilers. Unfortunately, the review section is messed up with malicious reviews so the truly useful reviews are buried and you may have to do a bit of scrolling.

Has anyone tried decoding Fei Foon’s Morse code in the opening scene of Episode 8? I wonder if he was making a love confession to Vincent.

Fei Foon looks disoriented and is also hallucinating. This can either be a side effect of sedatives or Shawn is deliberately giving him drugs which do this. The drugs psych patients take are known to do this. Given how Shawn’s a criminal, I’m afraid counterfeit money may not be the only illegal activity he is involved in. He may also be involved in the drug trade so, I would go with the second option as something easily obtainable for him. Maybe the end goal is to mess with FeiFoon’s memory and get him to forget Vincent?

Vincent finally put a name on the relationship. Took him only what, two years and three missing scares

Fingers crossed this ends up being the case. I do remember in one of their early vlogs, Kingston mentioned being at Shawn’s house he was “so and so” then also carried into a room by Shawn. I went to dig it up. He censors some words but that’s one of the reasons why I’m on edge on how this could play out. Maybe the censored word was “kidnapped?” Also in the trailer you see Kingston wearing a black vest and seemingly trying to make sense of something… Here’s the link to the vlog starting from minute 2:58 - 3:40. https://youtu.be/vzikAV1qrm0?is=_23_O8hYTjz5kCvT

https://kisskh.at/809054-smoke-ash/discussions/154308-novel-epub-link?pid=3564978&page=1#p3564978

From what I understand, China has a somewhat puritan view (only recently do you see dramas stepping out of this) when it comes to relationships between the leads of a drama . That is, if sexual relationships are to be explored it can only be between the leads. I’m hoping that approach gets stuck with in the show and Fei Foon doesn’t get sexually assaulted . Also, since the show seems to be pushing Sing, if he should take on the role of an assaulter, I fear there will be backlash. Basically all this theory is me hoping for no SA content.

For this interested in the OST, we’re getting them over the next few days. The first drop which is the intro song will be released tomorrow 13:14pm CST. Not sure if it will be released on Apple Music or Spotify as the only platforms listed seem to be solely from China

We get previews on Wednesdays, 8pm CST. You can check the Youku app or YouTube channel for them.

More than anything, I think that speaks to Fei Foon’s character as a person. Seeing him step in to protect Ms.H reminded me of how he was very hesitant to shoot the drug lord in Episode 1. It’s giving, yes these people may be criminals but I’ve gotten so close to them emotionally that I can’t be detached and just kill them/see them be killed. It also got me thinking about the toll being undercover can take on a person because these aren’t just chess pieces on a board, they are living and breathing humans who you spend time with and get to know. Pity we only have 9 episodes so can’t explore this bit.